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    #2901
    Tapos na ba ang maliligayang araw natin or is this just a temporary setback?

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    #2902
    o nga, hopefully this will just be a temporary increase...

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    #2903
    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Tapos na ba ang maliligayang araw natin or is this just a temporary setback?
    So far the crude oil market has stabilized. China is the biggest factor. If their economy further shrinks, their oil consumption goes down further. Oil prices will drop more but not significantly.

    Also as of monday today the barrel price dropped a small percentage. Not sure of the relative price drop next tuesday but we have Jut for that👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    So far the crude oil market has stabilized. China is the biggest factor. If their economy further shrinks, their oil consumption goes down further. Oil prices will drop more but not significantly.

    Also as of monday today the barrel price dropped a small percentage. Not sure of the relative price drop next tuesday but we have Jut for that[emoji106]
    Here's hoping the price will stay low for a few more months (a year or so more would probably be a dream already).

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    #2905
    You don't know what you are asking for. Deflation has worse effects than inflation. I'd rather have higher prices than a world economy in retreat.

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    #2906
    any update on a possible fuel price roll back or increase next week?
    thanks.

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    #2907
    Trend is +0.03. Could turn into a tiny rollback depending on the trading this weekend.

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    #2908
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Trend is +0.03. Could turn into a tiny rollback depending on the trading this weekend.
    hopefully it's a rollback, sir jut.
    thanks.

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    #2909
    20$ per barrel has been reiterated by Goldman Sachs. it will go down some more from the current sell price.
    Last edited by StockEngine; September 12th, 2015 at 02:45 AM.

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    #2910
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    20$ per barrel has been reiterated by Goldman Sachs. it will go down some more from the current sell price.
    more than 50 USD/Barrel na ang binaba ng crude oil compared to last year pero ang presyo ng engine oil as is pa din! bakit ganun?

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    #2911
    my post was regarding the predicted crude price going down in the coming months.

    price of refined products is not directly proportional to crude oil price.

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    my post was regarding the predicted crude price going down in the coming months.

    price of refined products is not directly proportional to crude oil price.

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    #2912
    Sept 2014 petrol price: 48pesos (91ron)
    Sept 2015 petrol price 35(91)

    27% drop in 91ron fuel price

    Sept 2014 Barrel price: 91 USD
    Sept 2015 Barrel price: 44 USD

    50% drop in barrel price.

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    #2913
    Diesel price Sept 2014: 39.33
    Diesel price Sept 2015: 23.48

    Diesel price drop: 40%

    crude price drop: 50%(sept 2014 vs sept 2015)

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    Diesel price Sept 2014: 39.33
    Diesel price Sept 2015: 23.48

    Diesel price drop: 40%

    crude price drop: 50%(sept 2014 vs sept 2015)

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    #2914
    ^^ the cost of refining and transport remains the same so it will not be a directly proportional relationship.

    $20 per barrel? di kaya yan, $21 ang nominal cost of production ng Saudi Arabia e di lugi pa sila ng $1.

    From Forbes energy...

    "The nominal cost of oil production for various countries is:
    Saudi Arabia – $21/bbl
    Middle East – $24/bbl
    Russia – $26/bbl
    Mexico – $42/bbl
    S.America/Europe/Eurasia/Africa – $56/bbl
    North America – $60/bbl
    Gulf Deep Water – $70/bbl
    Canada tar sands – $82/bbl
    other unconventionals – $100/bbl
    "However, while Saudi Arabia produces 10 million barrels of oil per day, more than any other country, it has little-to-no extra capacity to adjust to sudden increase in demand. Similarly for the other OPEC nations. So OPEC can no longer control the price and supply as well as they used to, because there is too much outside supply and too much growing volatility in demand.

    "The above costs are only to sell from existing fields. But the Saudis need over $100 per barrel to significantly grow their capacity to produce, a critical distinction that is usually overlooked."
    Last edited by yebo; September 12th, 2015 at 11:02 AM.

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    #2915
    Guys, what's the forecast for this coming Tuesday oil prices? Thanks.

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    #2916
    Only minimal price hike. 10c lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Only minimal price hike. 10c lang
    If this is confirmed, time to gas up tomorrow. Thanks.

    Or others have a different info on this? Hopefully, rollback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Only minimal price hike. 10c lang
    If this is confirmed, time to gas up tomorrow. Thanks.

    Or others have a different info on this? Hopefully, rollback.

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    #2918
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    20$ per barrel has been reiterated by Goldman Sachs. it will go down some more from the current sell price.
    anytime an investment bank comes out with a bold market outlook similar to what GS said, beware, chances are they are betting the other way around.

    20$ per barrel seems low but it's not impossible. i remember in the late 90s after the asian financial crisis, crude and platts was down to single digit levels if i am not mistaken. refining margins then were almost zero or at negative levels.

    also for those comparing crude versus pump price, you are failing to consider the forex which is also a crucial factor.

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    Mates, do we have an update on fuel price next week? Will it increase? Or decrease? Hope its the latter

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    Quote Originally Posted by br733 View Post
    anytime an investment bank comes out with a bold market outlook similar to what GS said, beware, chances are they are betting the other way around.

    20$ per barrel seems low but it's not impossible. i remember in the late 90s after the asian financial crisis, crude and platts was down to single digit levels if i am not mistaken. refining margins then were almost zero or at negative levels.

    also for those comparing crude versus pump price, you are failing to consider the forex which is also a crucial factor.
    After they predicted the 20$/barrel price, Goldman's cred is sh*t now lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by br733 View Post
    anytime an investment bank comes out with a bold market outlook similar to what GS said, beware, chances are they are betting the other way around.

    20$ per barrel seems low but it's not impossible. i remember in the late 90s after the asian financial crisis, crude and platts was down to single digit levels if i am not mistaken. refining margins then were almost zero or at negative levels.

    also for those comparing crude versus pump price, you are failing to consider the forex which is also a crucial factor.
    After they predicted the 20$/barrel price, Goldman's cred is sh*t now lol

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