The Middle East Problem

**anonemus** · November 21st, 2015 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by machine.pistol

Tribal mentality is not compatible with the concept of nation state and democracy.

You're talking of Pinas? 😁

**safeorigin** · November 22nd, 2015 09:23 AM

US Congresswoman Introduces Bill To Stop "Illegal" War On Assad; Says CIA Ops Must Stop | Zero Hedge

this woman knows what she's talking about

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-21/us-congresswoman-introduces-bill-stop-illegal-war-assad-says-cia-ops-must-stop

this woman knows what she's talking about

**unmarked** · November 17th, 2015 08:00 PM

Covert political ops ang ginawa nila jan. Damn ive been watching too many episodes ng Homeland hahaha

**niky** · November 17th, 2015 08:19 PM

To say that the United States did it on purpose assumes too much intelligence on the part of the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kdi1UXxhY

Not really anything surprising or new in this video for anyone who follows the news (and it's probably been posted elsewhere), but a comprehensive look at how American actions in the Middle East led to ISIS.

**ClaNker** · November 17th, 2015 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by niky

To say that the United States did it on purpose assumes too much intelligence on the part of the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kdi1UXxhY

Not really anything surprising or new in this video for anyone who follows the news (and it's probably been posted elsewhere), but a comprehensive look at how American actions in the Middle East led to ISIS.

Ah yes that video. Thanks for sharing.

All that money to the tune of $500M as I posted before.

**safeorigin** · November 17th, 2015 10:01 PM

^you mean this one?

Obama spends $500 million to train 5 anti-ISIS fighters

**ClaNker** · November 17th, 2015 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by safeorigin

^you mean this one?

Obama spends $500 million to train 5 anti-ISIS fighters

Ah yes that one.

**minicarph** · November 18th, 2015 02:33 PM

Lagi naman bini-blame US sa iSIS. like any other war, darsting ang panahon na ayaw na ng American public sending their soldiers to Iraq. And nun dumating yun, they pulled out, created a power vacuum. And ISIS is created, destroying everybody in its path, Iraq government, Syrian government, Al Aqueda, Hezbollah and other factions.

mid east is so tribal that they have so many factions. And here comes a United front sweeping across the territories, one single unifying force. They're brutal we know. But that's only because nakikialam pa western nations, kaya hayun nadadamay ang mga innocent citizens ng mga nations na nakikialam

After the war with the British and American gaining idependence, ano ba ginawa ng America. They checked everything in the american continent, American Indians, Mexicans, Latinos. It was also charscterized by brutal massacres of these tribes. Is it bac yes? But what did it create, a United States of America that saved us in World war 2. Sabi nga ng Japanese admiral sa pearl harbor, we awakened a sleeping giant.

So why does Obama want the Syrian President gone, because the Americans had a hardtime becoming peacekeepers, there are just toomany factions, maiming, sniping, bombing them in the middle east, IS stsnds for Islamic State. US stands for United States. EU stands for European Union.

See the big picture. Europe has been always at war with each other coz of their many culutural and gropolitical differences, the EU united them. middle east is also at war with itself. And the only languagge these people understands to get their objective is through violence. Hindi pwede EU STYLE sa mid east. And that's why this is happening in that part of the world, that's their way eh. Something na pinakekelaman ng Christian western world.

If there was an international human rights body present in the 17th century and 18th century, hindi aagree ang body na ito sa pinaggawa ng America sa natives and the British emoire with its colonies

So that's why most of the extremists are educated Muslims. In fact educated pa nga sa Western universities. Kasi ito din na-learn nila sa history of Western civilization. Civlization na may dark past din full of brutality and violence,

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We live in a f&$3:! Up world talaga. That's a given, kelangan ba tayo makialam sa history in the making in that part of the world, YES and NO. Yes because of the humanity by which the war is undertaken. NO because pinakekelaman ba nila tayo if we ourselves conduct our own clean-up war in our region ...

So can we just leave them alone? And wait for the outcome. Stil NO! Why because Americs has done it before, they allowed Hitler to power, akala nila Hitler will be a unfiying force in Europe. hitler was good and diplomatic in the first years, convincing Ausria, Hungary and most of Eastern Europe, thru a peaceful annexation. Little did the Americans know na he was a madman, out to dominate the world. And it was too late. Why was it too late? Sana binefirend na lang nila su Hitler instead of annihilating him, hindi pa lumakas ang Soviet Union with the Iron Curtain and Cold War and Communist threat.

Yan din ang isang risk sa IS, who knows a madman may or may not be created. And then wreak havoc sa mundo sa isa na naman unforeseen outcome,

**minicarph** · November 19th, 2015 01:43 PM

The right kind of action would be to let them be. Rebel Factions vs. IS vs. Syrian Govt. (or any other Mid East Govt). Matira matibay because that's how they like it, parang underground fight club.

Then after all these, (The US) talk and maintain diplomatic relations to the victor for the future of their newly gained territories. It's in the art of war naman eh,