The Middle East Problem

**Wh1stl3r2** · September 27th, 2016 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by safeorigin

Russian invasion of Ukraine??? HAHAHAHA

Black Sea Fleet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I take it you've never heard of Sevastopol

and you do realize the current Ukranian government is run by Svoboda and its pet dog

Well they did invade Crimea, which is still considered part of Ukraine, autonomous status aside. And annexed it along with Sevastopol.

Point is they're also d1cks like everyone else.

**safeorigin** · September 27th, 2016 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r2

Well they did invade Crimea, which is still considered part of Ukraine, autonomous status aside. And annexed it along with Sevastopol.

Point is they're also d1cks like everyone else.

uh, not really. That's like saying the US invaded Philippines when they used Clark as an airbase for a long time. The Russians were already there LOOONG before the Crimean crisis went on. Also, the Crimeans voted on the referendum which is reasonable considering what the party (which isn't democratically elected but rather put into power by Victoria Nuland et al.) that took over Ukraine is doing to non-ukrainians.

**safeorigin** · September 27th, 2016 11:45 PM

also, it's very easy to ignore that Ukraine and Russia had an existing treaty at the time. In fact, during the Crimean crisis the 16,000 Russian soldiers that were there is well below what was permitted in the treaty of 25,000.

Partition Treaty on the Status and Conditions of the Black Sea Fleet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**Monseratto** · September 28th, 2016 11:34 AM

Shimon Peres dead: Former Israeli president dies after suffering stroke at at 93 | The Independent

**safeorigin** · September 29th, 2016 03:12 AM

Obama Humiliated: Senate Overrides President's Veto Of "Sept 11" Bill In Crushing 97-1 Vote | Zero Hedge

more 9/11 news

15 years later: on the physics of high-rise building collapses | Europhysics News

**safeorigin** · September 30th, 2016 01:41 AM

US To Suspend Syria Diplomacy With Russia, Prepares "Military Options" | Zero Hedge

and things have suddenly got out of hand

there are currently US servicemen working in concert with Jabhat Fateh al-Sham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in Aleppo

and yes, Al Nusra got rebranded again so that they can be labelled "moderate rebels"

**safeorigin** · September 30th, 2016 10:52 PM

uhh... these are very disturbing threats

US Spox John Kirby threatens Russia with “more body bags, attacks on Russian Cities” | Covert Geopolitics

**Monseratto** · October 1st, 2016 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by safeorigin

Obama Humiliated: Senate Overrides President's Veto Of "Sept 11" Bill In Crushing 97-1 Vote | Zero Hedge

more 9/11 news

15 years later: on the physics of high-rise building collapses | Europhysics News

Hahaha... Guess who has the last laugh...

White House lashes out at Congress after 9/11 bill vote

"Everybody was aware of who the potential beneficiaries were but nobody really had focused on the downside in terms of our international relationships," McConnell told reporters at a Capitol Hill news conference.

The White House had long raised concerns about the law, warning that it could have a chilling effect on Saudi Arabia's cooperation with the U.S. in fighting terrorism. Senior national security officials also argued that it could trigger lawsuits from people in other countries seeking redress for injuries or deaths caused by military actions in which the U.S. may have had a role.

But top lawmakers said the White House didn't press those warnings until it was too late and the popular bill was already barreling its way through Congress. Other lawmakers acknowledged that they didn't pay much attention to the bill.

That earned McConnell and others a scathing response from the White House, which said lawmakers didn't know what they were voting for.

With enough blame for the White House and Congress to go around, both sides engaged in finger-pointing.

"We want to make sure that the 9/11 victims and their families have their day in court. At the same time, I would like to think there may be some work to be done to protect our service members overseas from any kind of — any kind of legal ensnarements that could occur, any kind of retribution," Ryan said.