The Middle East Problem

**safeorigin** · November 23rd, 2015 02:31 AM

here's a video of Nigel Farage ca. 2013. He is one of the few dissenting people labelled politically incorrect. hehe

**safeorigin** · December 1st, 2015 11:35 AM

Erdogan Says Will Resign If Oil Purchases From ISIS Proven After Putin Says Has "More Proof" | Zero Hedge

Erdogan is unlikely to resign even if he's proven to support ISIS. hehe

**safeorigin** · December 5th, 2015 05:58 AM

My belief is, we will, in fact be greeted as liberators.

– Dick Cheney on NBC’s Meet the Press, March 16, 2003

The fighters there insist there have been no strikes by the Americans at all. “We’d be better off without them,” said 1st Lt. Murtada Fadl, who is serving with the Iraqi elite forces in Baiji. He said that the only air support had come from the Iraqi air force and that he wishes the government would ask the Russians to replace the Americans.

“The image of the U.S. was damaged in the region, so they created Daesh in order to fight them and restore their image,” said Mohammed Abdul Khaleq, a journalist for a local TV station who was drinking coffee in a cafe favored by writers, most of whom said they agreed.

– From the Washington Post article: Iraqis Think the U.S. is in Cahoots With the Islamic State, and it is Hurting the War

The Iraq War will go down as the single greatest foreign policy blunder in U.S. history. It is simply the unmitigated disaster that keeps on giving.

To recap, the people who the U.S. government supposedly “liberated,” now hate Americans so much that most of them are convinced the U.S. is in cahoots with ISIS. Not that you could blame them for coming to this conclusion, considering the indisputable role the U.S. government played in the creation of ISIS.

From the post: Additional Details Emerge on How U.S. Government Policy Created, Armed, Supported and Funded ISIS

Telling Hasan that he had read the document himself, Flynn said that it was among a range of intelligence being circulated throughout the US intelligence community that had led him to attempt to dissuade the White House from supporting these groups, albeit without success.

Despite this, Flynn’s account shows that the US commitment to supporting the Syrian insurgency against Bashir al-Assad led the US to deliberately support the very al-Qaeda affiliated forces it had previously fought in Iraq.

The US anti-Assad strategy in Syria, in other words, bolstered the very al-Qaeda factions the US had fought in Iraq, by using the Gulf states and Turkey to finance the same groups in Syria. As a direct consequence, the secular and moderate elements of the Free Syrian Army were increasingly supplanted by virulent Islamist extremists backed by US allies.

It should be noted that precisely at this time, the West, the Gulf states and Turkey, according to the DIA’s internal intelligence reports, were supporting AQI and other Islamist factions in Syria to “isolate” the Assad regime. By Flynn’s account, despite his warnings to the White House that an ISIS attack on Iraq was imminent, and could lead to the destabilization of the region, senior Obama officials deliberately continued the covert support to these factions.

Not that the reality of Iraqis thinking the U.S. is allied with ISIS is anything new. For example, read the following from the post, Accusations Emerge That the U.S. Is Aiding ISIS – The Latest “Conspiracy Theory” Circulating in Iraq, published in March:

But that enmity for the United States circulates beyond the militias that once fought U.S. soldiers, surfacing also in parliamentary debates and Iraqi media reports and even at the highest ranks of the national armed forces that the United States is aiding.

“Everybody knows that the Americans are dropping supplies to Daesh,” said Brig. Gen. Abed al-Maliki, a senior Iraqi army commander based in the city of Samarra, about 80 miles north of Baghdad, using another term for the Islamic State.

What’s more, he said, during some of the fiercest fighting around Samarra last year, U.S. Special Operations forces dropped behind enemy lines to assist Islamic State militants.

“They came in with parachutes, and they were helping to bomb the city,” he said.

U.S. airstrikes against the Islamic State, he contended, are probably just a cover for efforts to support the group.

“It’s just a show,” he said, sitting in the city’s army command headquarters. “If the Americans want to finish something, they will finish it. If they wanted to liberate Iraq, they could.”

Epic Foreign Policy Fail ? Most Iraqis Think the U.S. Government Supports ISIS | Liberty Blitzkrieg

**safeorigin** · December 9th, 2015 02:24 AM

Here's a long and in-depth picture of what's going on in Syria and Iraq:

NEO – Damascus Counter-Terrorism conference â€“ One year later | Veterans Today

by first hand accounts of people with high level inside knowledge.

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in other breaking news: Breaking: Turkey Sets Up ISIS Airbase Outside Mosul | Veterans Today

**minicarph** · December 13th, 2015 07:48 AM

Hi, gusto mo ng company , mukang Ikaw Lang kumakausap sa thread na to. Nag-Aral ka ba ng criminology, psychology, behavioral stuff nun college?

**n_spinner06** · December 13th, 2015 09:10 AM

i wonder why news like this doesn't get airtime here. ang gulo na sa middle east...

**safeorigin** · December 13th, 2015 11:40 AM

meh. doesn't matter if anybody else reads it or responds.

already serves its purpose for archiving news

Originally Posted by n_spinner06

i wonder why news like this doesn't get airtime here. ang gulo na sa middle east...

it never makes it into mainstream news because it doesn't fit their narrative/agenda.

the way "actors" are depicted in mainstream are removed from what really happens on the ground.

they'll never admit it, of course.

if they did, there'll be a civil war.