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    #901
    Ganyan pala katanga ang Megaworld. 10M discount dahil typhoon damaged? E hindi naman sila gagastos ng 10M to have the unit repaired.
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    #902
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Ganyan pala katanga ang Megaworld. 10M discount dahil typhoon damaged? E hindi naman sila gagastos ng 10M to have the unit repaired.
    Damage Contol EK EK.

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    #903
    I guess the Yellow este Liberal Party senators should be the ones convincing the other senators, since the yellow este prosecution is not putting a good show... Pati si JPE naawa na.

    MANILA, Philippines - Several LP senator-judges helped 'save' Day 9 for the prosecution by pointing out that the declaration of one's statement of assets, liabilities, and net worth (SALN) needs to be accurate, timely, and truthful. Two of them, however, said the testimony of the Megaworld Corp. witness was no longer material to Article 2, saying it concerns only the non-disclosure of the SALN.

    Senator Teofisto Guingona III (LP) noted that while the Bellagio unit was purchased in 2008, it was only declared in Corona’s SALN in 2010. He said Corona did not also disclose in his SALN the acquisition cost of P14.5 million, but only the current fair market value of P6.8 million.

    Senator Sergio Osmena III (LP) demanded from Megaworld executive Noli Hernandez the price list of the other five penthouse units in the condominium to determine for how much they were sold and sought information, if any, about insurance claims made by Megaworld because of the water leakage in the unit bought by Corona.

    “We’re trying to probe if that [price] reduction is valid,” Osmena told the court.

    Senator Franklin Drilon(LP) echoed Guingona’s assertion on the truthful, accurate, and timely filing of SALN.

    “In other words, filing is not a ministerial act. . .it must be complete, timely, and these are in the decisions of a number of cases before the Supreme Court,” Drilon added.

    However, Senators Pia Cayetano (Nac) and Ferdinand Marcos Jr.(Nac) noted that the testimony of the witness was no longer material to Article 2, saying it concerns only the non-disclosure of the SALN.
    Last edited by Monseratto; January 31st, 2012 at 09:26 PM.

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    #904
    malaking discount sa penthouse dahil sa water leak damage? o c'mon. im not buying it.

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    #905
    still so many questions to ask the megaworld representative.

    how can a condo unit sustain a 10M worth of damage? sabi niys finishing stage na sila, so it means meron ng windows etc...be as it may nakapasok na ang tubig meron ba damage ang kabilang unit or yun hallway etc...

    how did the Coronas came to know about he discounted unit? did MW published it or did they offer it to the Corona? he said they were more than 10 other interested buyers, were the other interested buyers told about the high discount on the said unit? what made them to sell the unit to Corona and not the other buyers?

    tapos sabi niya hinde daw niya kilala na si corona ang buyer pero at the same breath sinabi niya na 2nd transaction na nila yun...

    prosecution should elicit answer from the bald witness that somebody from the higher up told him to sell the unit to the corona ang give them a huge discount and then subpoena that person.

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    #906
    hugas kamay din ang megaworld sa issue na ito obviously. nakataya kasi ang kanilang reputasyon as property developer. masisira sila.

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    #907
    Hindi naman siguro ganun katanga mga senador para maniwala na water damage lang P10m discount o reduce price na kaagad bibigay ng Megaworld, penthouse unit yan at over looking the golf course, buti sana kung lower unit na nasa taas lang ng parking level mas kapani-paniwala iyan...

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    #908
    kaya nga tinanong nung isang honorable senator ang witness kung nag claim ba sa insurance due to force majeure dahil na din sa laki ng damage which apparently ay wala. istorya eh?

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    #909
    but i must admit, nakuryente ang prosecution. their own witness testifying against them in favor of the defense.

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    #910
    at one point, sabi nga ni lolo johnny kay jimenez eh......"ere you trying to cross examine your own witness?"

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    #911
    Water Damage can be fixed cheaply, why give out a P10,000,000 discount. Remember, there were 10 interested buyers for the Penthouse.

    Don't be FOOLED, people.

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    #912
    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Yes. And I'm sure that's the same kind of self-serving "collegial" logic which will enable the SC to subvert every Constitutional prohibition there is. Another example of this is the way the SC absolved one of its own for plagiarism (Justice Del Castillo), again using elegant prose to justify what was intellectual dishonesty.

    Making bad decisions binding legal precedents, like the case decided by Justice Bersamin, et al, makes jurisprudence all the more repugnant to the intent of the Constitution, one of which is to limit the ability of the President to make appointments right before an election as part of a system of checks and balances.

    The so-called "duty" to settle actual controversies and "interpret the law" gave way to personal and collective interest on the part of the members of the Corona Court.

    That's just grand. Disappointing and grand.
    I may not agree with what you said, but I'll defend to death that you have the right to say it. kaya sana naman mabigyan ng proper due process si CJ, strike him if you must, but hear him first!

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    #913
    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer View Post
    Tell them to take their righteous ass somewhere else, mga palpak sila kamo. And if they think SC and them are above, then tell them to take their **** with them as well.

    By the way my Dad's good friend since his college days is also a Judge. Nag kukwento yun ng baho ng justice system ng pinas. Kaya utang na loob wag silang masyadong malinis.

    Ingit nga si Jingoy laki daw ng discount oh.
    ah, ganon ba? ok. sometimes the wrong side of the law is the right place to be. . . 1 maling akala na ang taliwas kung minsan ay tama.

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    #914
    Quote Originally Posted by galant E SS View Post
    ah, ganon ba? ok. sometimes the wrong side of the law is the right place to be. . . 1 maling akala na ang taliwas kung minsan ay tama.
    Ganon nga, at wag ng mag malinis.

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    #915
    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    Water Damage can be fixed cheaply, why give out a P10,000,000 discount. Remember, there were 10 interested buyers for the Penthouse.

    Don't be FOOLED, people.
    Yep... If we were to follow that logic, more than half the developments all round will be discounted. Nothing's perfect. C'mon Megaworld, who's leg are you pulling? Defects are not discounted; it is rectified and sold it at the best price possible.

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    #916
    Bakit tahimik ang CBCP tungkol dito?

    Last edited by Monseratto; February 1st, 2012 at 10:16 AM.

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    #917
    Err, talk about non-partiality...

    PNoy asked to explain P40M growth in wealth | CBCP News

    PNoy asked to explain P40M growth in wealth


    MANILA, Jan. 24, 2012— President Benigno Aquino III should explain the sudden increase of his wealth, from P15 million in 2009 to nearly P55 million in 2012, a Catholic Church official said.

    Retired Archbishop Oscar Cruz said that the Chief Executive should divulge the source of his abrupt growth in wealth contained in a report by the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ).

    He said that while Aquino has compelled other government officials to be transparent with their assets, the President avoided doing the same.

    “Dapat lang na ipaliwanag niya... Gusto niya na maging very transparent ang iba pero siya ayaw niya,” Cruz told Church-run Radyo Veritas Tuesday.

    “At isa pa ang Freedom of information bill ay ayaw niya. Di niya priority. Kung talaga siya ay pro-transparency e bakit di niya 'to ipasa. Hindi masyadong malinaw ang kanyang katayuan,” he said.

    According to the PCIJ report, Aquino’s wealth had grown nearly three times or recorded a P40 million increase within a year after the May 2010 elections.

    But Cruz said the public must not be surprised with the growth of Aquino’s wealth which might be derived from his share of the income of the Hacienda Luisita, a 4,915 hectares of sugar plantation owned by Aquino’s family.

    “Kung sakali man yun ay kinita niya mula sa Hacienda Luisita, nauunawaan ko. Pagkat ang HLI, kaya yan ay protektadong-protektado at huwag mong gagalawin kundi tatamaan ka,” he added.

    “Kung yan ay galing sa mga kinita ng Hacienda Luisita na kanyang kaparte bilang kaisa sa mga Cojuangco, nauunawaan ko.” Cruz said. “Pero kung galling yan sa iba, ibang usapan na yan.” [CBCPNews]

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    #918
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Bakit tahimik ang CBCP tungkol dito?



    Wala ng powers iyan,- retired na e...

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    #919
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    This is wrong, politicking at its worst since siya pa may initiative!
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    #920
    Para pag nagkamiraglo at na pasa yung RH-Bill, yung SC ang haharang at sasabihin unconstitutional, violation ng Human Rights ng sperm...blah,blah,blah.

Impeachment against CJ Corona..