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    #741
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Up ko lang ito para kay kapatid na sir mile2.
    Nakakamiss si mile2. Hindi na siya nasagot.

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    #742
    Busy malamang naghahanap ng bible verse na pwede idikit kahit na walang connection na si Manalo nga yung last messenger.

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    #743
    Sorry guys di ako puedeng magbabad sa internet sa office, I have work and can only respond if time permits.

    Okay lang yang mga kantiyawan nyo at alipusta, di naman yan nakaka-apekto sa pagkatao at faith ko and I believe ganoon din sa mga kapatid ko sa INC.

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    #744
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Sorry guys di ako puedeng magbabad sa internet sa office, I have work and can only respond if time permits.

    Okay lang yang mga kantiyawan nyo at alipusta, di naman yan nakaka-apekto sa pagkatao at faith ko and I believe ganoon din sa mga kapatid ko sa INC.
    Para manahimik na talaga kami. Saan s Bibliya nakasulat na si Manlo ang huling sugo?

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    #745
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Mga simpleng katanungan para kay kapatid na sir mile2 at mga kaanib sa Iglesia:

    1. Kung si Kristo ay tao, kaninong tao nanggaling ang kanyang dugo?
    Rhetorical ang tanong - Dugo ni Kristo

    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    2. Ang dugo raw na yan ay makakapagligtas, ibig bang sabihin ang dugo ng isang tao ay makakapagligtas sa kasalanan ng ibang tao?
    Hebrews 9:14
    How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God

    Death in Adam, Life in Christ
    Romans 5:10-15
    12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men[a] because all sinned— 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.

    15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.

    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    3. Ang lahat ng tao ay makasalanan, makasalanan din ba si Kristo?
    "God made him [Christ] who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."-2 Corinthians 5:21

    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    4. Kung si Kristo ay tao, kailangan din ba nya ang kaligtasan?
    He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety. (Hebrews 5:7).

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
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    Kung tao si Kristo at nanay niya si Virgin Mary, at sinasabi na ang Holy Spirit conceived Virgin Mary, thus bearing Jesus Christ, and said that the Holy Spirit is also the God Father, then bakit sinasabi ng INC na tao lang si Jesus at hindi ang Diyos na nagkatawang tao?
    Holy Spirit is not the Father as you stated. Your premise is entirely wrong.

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    #747
    Quote Originally Posted by xagent_orangex View Post
    BACK TO TOPIC:[/U] Iglesia Refuses Shelter

    bakit nga ba hindi pinapasok?

    base sa report ng ABS-CBN naman, may pinapasok daw, 11 families nga lang. e bakit hindi nila sinabihan yung mga members nila nalang (huwag na yung ibang relihiyon) na pumasok para safe sila?

    kaya lang naman naging issue ito e dahil sa INC mismo, bakit sinasabi nilang sagrado ang kapilya pero yung mga nangangailangang tao e hindi pwedeng pumasok.
    Your word against the word of non INC survivors in that INC Church vicinity.

    From TV3 of New Zeland News Channel:

    Non INC survivors says: Night before the storm Yolanda they were already invited inside the INC Church, they were hundreds in numbers and they would not been alive if they were not inside the edifice.


    Xagent_orangeX words against Non INC Survivors

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    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    For reasons unknown, previous thread was deleted. But the fact remains, you said these things:

    Fact: you quoted the bible "everyone MUST give"

    Fact: you deny na kung wala ka pera, hindi pwede sumali.

    Fact: Those two are contradicting.

    Who is right?

    A. You

    B. Bible

    I think your common sense should be able to grasp on how to answer.
    Since hindi ka naman pala apektado, answer the question.

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    #749
    Good night everyone,

    I'll chat with you if my time permits again, need to sleep now, I still have work tomorrow

    bye.

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    #750
    Haha hindi talaga maka sagot. Napakasimple na nga, iwas pa rin ng iwas.

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    #751
    Quote Originally Posted by antonath View Post
    Pwede ba auto debit na lang yan mga offerings? Busy eh. Charge mo na din pag absent sa samba day.

    Sent from Milkyway
    Kapag ba absent sa pagsamba excempted na sa offering or cumulative yan? May no show fee din?

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    #752
    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    Kapag ba absent sa pagsamba excempted na sa offering or cumulative yan? May no show fee din?
    Hi Mam,

    kala ko december pa balik mo, hehehehehe. dahil kay INC napabalik ka ng maaga sa tsikot. nyahahah

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    #753
    Ayaw ng INC ng mga absent. Kulang cash. Or natakot, baka sinaniban ka na mg ibang relihiyon, sayang cash pa rin.

    Bawal i-audit ang simbahan? Bakit? Lahat ba ng naghahandle ng pera nyo sagrado? Maraming hudas sa mundo.

    Walang free will? Bat kelangan isa lng nagiisip/nagdedesisyon? Tama ba lagi iniisip nya? If yes, bat walang kaunlaran? If no, why follow?

    Anyways, the premise of INC is that no one is saved prior to the creation of your Iglesia. Eto Champion. I think the Catholic church did that to us during the time of the spaniards. Di ba meron yang donate ng malaki, go to heaven express. Di na kayo natuto. History yan, basa basa ng ibang books pag may time.

    Seriously, these books are history. Interpret as you like.
    But as for me, there are many books in the world, as there are GODs. But there is only one of you. Make use of your heart (kindness) and your brain (common sense), you'll do well in life. You don't need anyone to tell you what to do.




    *reminds me of lemmings

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    #754
    Quote Originally Posted by antonath View Post
    Aayaw na ako sa itatayong religion ni miles. Bigla ko naisip, 9% lang? No way. Mas gusto ko sa 10% na offer ni manalo. Madami member, madami maiinggit pag malaki offerings ko.

    Sent from Milkyway
    San ba nakuha yung 10% daw na offerings ng INC? Me nagsabi ba neto o first hand nyo nalaman kasi dati kayo member?

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    #755
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Holy Spirit is not the Father as you stated. Your premise is entirely wrong.
    So sa sinasabi mo, bastardo nga si Jesus Christ? God said that Jesus is his Son. Then sino ang tatay ni Jesus Christ? Sige sagot...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Your word against the word of non INC survivors in that INC Church vicinity.

    From TV3 of New Zeland News Channel:

    Non INC survivors says: Night before the storm Yolanda they were already invited inside the INC Church, they were hundreds in numbers and they would not been alive if they were not inside the edifice.


    Xagent_orangeX words against Non INC Survivors
    Ulit, 11 families lang ang nasa loob ng kapilya ninyo as per ABS' article. How come naging hundreds ang nasa loob? Ano ito, scripted?

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    #756
    I am really doubtful of INC's intents sa mga tao lalo na ang pamamaraan ninyo ng pag-akay sa mga tao. I can even compare INC to an MLM. Pathetic...

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    #757
    dami na pala interesado sa relihiyon ko, and yes i accept credit debit cards, and manager's check

    mile2, eto nalang masasabi ko. God does not speak to you thru the bible, nor thru your minister and espcially not thru manalo. He speaks to you directly. you know what is right and what is wrong.

    kung ikaw nandun sa gate ng inc ng time ni yolanda, nakikita mo gutom at basa na mga tao and you know they are not inc members, ano gagawin mo? pare, ako alam kona agad gagawin ko, hindi ko na kailangan MAGSEARCH PA SA BIBLIYA or antayin ano sabihin ng ministro para PAPASUKIN SILA. that is what God tells me, that is my conscience. Hindi ito usapang piracy or rh bill, this is WHAT IS RIGHT PERIOD

    wag tayo maging banal na aso at santong kabayo (napapakanta tuloy ako hihihihi)

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    #758
    Oi miles, pwede bang installment dyan ang donation?

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    #759
    Binalikan ko yung video. Oo nga sabi nung kiwi na reporter there were hundreds that fled to the house of worship. Yung isang tao na interview eh tinuro lang na dun sila nagpunta sa kapilya. Ngayon ang tanong ko lang kay kapatid na mile2. Kung ang eaglenews (pag mamay ari ng INC) at abs-cbn ang nagsabi na 11 pamilya ang nasa loob ng kapilya, sino ngayon ang sinungaling sa kanila? Yung reporter ng tv3 new Zealand o yung eaglenews?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Your word against the word of non INC survivors in that INC Church vicinity.

    From TV3 of New Zeland News Channel:

    Non INC survivors says: Night before the storm Yolanda they were already invited inside the INC Church, they were hundreds in numbers and they would not been alive if they were not inside the edifice.


    Xagent_orangeX words against Non INC Survivors

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    #760
    Galing sa sariling TV station ng INC yung report na may 11 na pamilya. Nireport nalang ulit ni abscbn at cited naman na galing sa eagle news. Ang tanong ko lang, sino ang sinungaling at hindi nagsasabi ng totoo.

    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    So sa sinasabi mo, bastardo nga si Jesus Christ? God said that Jesus is his Son. Then sino ang tatay ni Jesus Christ? Sige sagot...


    Ulit, 11 families lang ang nasa loob ng kapilya ninyo as per ABS' article. How come naging hundreds ang nasa loob? Ano ito, scripted?

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