Exposing Manny Villar

**Monseratto** · February 5th, 2010 08:23 AM

Meron pa syang sariling TV program, with Willie Menyek...

**CVT** · February 5th, 2010 08:34 AM

Pakiramdam nga namin dito,- mukhang pakawala iyan ng palasyo.....

9202:toothbrush:

**attyallanlatras** · February 5th, 2010 08:54 AM

Gloria is secretly supporting Villar....How will Villar amass his wealth if he is clean...no one in his right mind will say that Villar's administration, if ever he wins, is an epitome of a clean and honest government....he has already spend so much (wala pang campaign period), if elected, talagang babawin nya yan....evidently he has exploited the kids in his ads, the poor, for his own political ambition.... kawawa ang Pilipinas kung sya ang maging pangulo....

**fourtheboys96** · February 5th, 2010 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Lucius

Bobo lang maniniwala sa surveys. Why?

Surveys are SPONSORED, unless done online. Who are these people they're asking? Normally, ang sine-survey are not more than 10,000 people. There are about 49M registered voters.

Tingin nyo gagastusan nila si Noynoy kung alam nilang sure win? How about Villar, why is he willing to spend that much? Also Gibo, alam naman natin kung bakit. Who doesn't care? DICK GORDON. Because he knows he's got a good track record. He doesn't need to sell himself using superficial celebrities.

Don't be stupid. Vote wisely.

search the term "sample size" or "statistical sampling" and you'll understand why only 1000 voters are interviewed when there are millions of voters out there.

**JackFlash** · February 5th, 2010 11:45 AM

Surveys have their uses. Aside from candidates, marketing firms use them to track market performance of their brands. When conglomerates like SMC, Nestle, P&G, Unilever, etc. commission a market study, they expect to get the truth. Kung saan ang ranking ng brands nila so they know what adjustments they need to do in their marketing plan. Linoloko lang nila sarili nila kung lulutuin nila ang resulta.

Same w/ candidates. They look at the nos. so they can adjust their campaign strat. They may announce publicly that the nos. don't bother them, but within their campaign orgs, they are already mapping out strategies to ensure that their ratings improve. Mga arogante lang ang totoong hindi naniniwala sa sinasabi ng mga numero. Either that or tanggap na nila ang mangyayari kaya dinadaan na lang sa yabang. To say that political surveys are BS is like saying hindi naman totoo na mababa ang satisfaction ng tao kay GMA - kasi sa survey rin lumabas ang negative rating niya.

Surveys may not be 100% predictive, but they are strongly indicative of public sentiment and preference at a given point in time.

**fourtheboys96** · February 5th, 2010 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by JackFlash

Surveys have their uses. Aside from candidates, marketing firms use them to track market performance of their brands. When conglomerates like SMC, Nestle, P&G, Unilever, etc. commission a market study, they expect to get the truth. Kung saan ang ranking ng brands nila so they know what adjustments they need to do in their marketing plan. Linoloko lang nila sarili nila kung lulutuin nila ang resulta.

Same w/ candidates. They look at the nos. so they can adjust their campaign strat. They may announce publicly that the nos. don't bother them, but within their campaign orgs, they are already mapping out strategies to ensure that their ratings improve. Mga arogante lang ang totoong hindi naniniwala sa sinasabi ng mga numero. Either that or tanggap na nila ang mangyayari kaya dinadaan na lang sa yabang. To say that political surveys are BS is like saying hindi naman totoo na mababa ang satisfaction ng tao kay GMA - kasi sa survey rin lumabas ang negative rating niya.

Surveys may not be 100% predictive, but they are strongly indicative of public sentiment and preference at a given point in time.

Very well said.

**Lucius** · February 5th, 2010 12:59 PM

Well you guys should know that these surveys are POLITICAL SURVEYS.

They have another purpose.

**fourtheboys96** · February 5th, 2010 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Lucius

Well you guys should know that these surveys are POLITICAL SURVEYS.

They have another purpose.

various surveys maybe have different specific purposes. but they have generally one similar purpose. that is to determine what the population thinks about something or someone.

i personally don't get affected by what these surveys say. but i am not saying the results are flawed simply because it is commissioned by a political party or a candidate. flawed results are due mainly to mistakes in the methodology (either intentional or not) such as in construction of survey questions, number of choices included in the survey, sampling procedure etc.

now presentation of the results to spin an advantage towards a particular candidate is a different matter.

**JackFlash** · February 5th, 2010 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lucius

Well you guys should know that these surveys are POLITICAL SURVEYS.

They have another purpose.

Of course we know what political surveys are. I thought it was already obvious in the postings. Btw, your comment about "... unless done online." is very unreliable. Online surveys are not accurate because you cannot screen respondents properly. They can pretend to fit respondent criteria or they can even create mulitple accounts - the virtual equivalent of flying voters.

As far as surveys go, there are tainted ones - those run by a candidate's affiliate group, and there are the reputable ones. If you read the report about Pulse, it was done independently. Which is why analysts, commentators, columnists and reporters are talking about it and trying to see what causes one candidate to improve, what pulls down another and why others remain stagnant. Pick up any newspaper and you'll see this.

For us voters, we should be able to discern what is a factual report and which one is political spin. At the end of the day, one has to decide for himself, based on what he has learned about the candidates and not what the survey says.