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    #12541
    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    o cge ganito na lang pala ang choices ng Filipino people;

    you either vote for BASTOS na magnanakaw e.g. Dugong, Alvarez et al or Pretentious/Elitista na Magnanakaw e.g. Aquino , MAr, Abaya

    nag vote na po

    16 million of them
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    i've been saying this long ago

    people were willing to overlook du30's foul mouth

    coz they hated the decent elites so much they're willing to accept du30 and all his flaws

    huwag lang sila Aquino uli



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    Just like many Americans voted for Trump

    coz they hated Obama/Clinton liberal policy so much that they're willing to accept Trump and all his flaws

    a Clinton win would be another 4 years of Obama policy
    Last edited by uls; February 20th, 2018 at 07:17 PM.

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    I hardly read the news re: Duterte nowadays cause I just get insenced, but I came across an article that when he was addressing the Filipino-Chinese business group, among then is the Chinese ambassador, he said China should just make the Philippines one of it’s own Provinces. The piece said he made it jokingly, but didn’t he make jokes before that became reality, like killing poor drug users? Seems like he is slowly giving the Country to China. Magkano kaya nya binenta ang Pilipinas?

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    #12543
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    I hardly read the news re: Duterte nowadays cause I just get insenced, but I came across an article that when he was addressing the Filipino-Chinese business group, among then is the Chinese ambassador, he said China should just make the Philippines one of it’s own Provinces. The piece said he made it jokingly, but didn’t he make jokes before that became reality, like killing poor drug users? Seems like he is slowly giving the Country to China. Magkano kaya nya binenta ang Pilipinas?

    hehehehe Rizal et al must be turning in their graves right now

    qouting Manuel L. Quezon " “I prefer a government run like hell by Filipinos to a government run like heaven by Americans,”

    be careful what you wish for

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    #12544
    Either way magnanakaw pa rin ang pagpipilian natin. What's a citizen to do?


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    #12545
    Di naman tayo nakakasigurado na si Digong hindi magnanakaw. Baka nga mas masahol pa sa magnanakaw, binenta na tayo sa China. Before he was President, Chinese barges were seen hauling sand from an area in Davao to be used in the Shoals.

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    #12546
    ^the next administrations conundrum will be..paano tayo tutubusin sa china?

    God help my country..lantad na ang tunay na kulay..pinalulusutan lang ng biro kuno

    Utong uto naman ang marami
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    #12548
    kung binenta tayo sa China asan deed of sale? meron wala so stop this nonsense
    kung nagnakaw si myPres sino nanakawan, wala naman nawalan, meron wala so stop this nonense
    kung bastos ang bibig ng present admin people? eh dapat lang bastusin yun paulit-ulit na allegation sa taas para tumahimik na. a man's patience got a limit you know

    tingin ko wala ng mas babastos pa dun sa imbento ng imbento ng mga issues na wala naman proof and they can't commit to proving it even if takes time.

    ikaw ba naman walang ginawa kapitbahay mo lagi nilalait yun ulam nyo pag Martes na ambaho, weekly na lang, tingen maging bastos ka na din.

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    #12549
    Marami na rin nagigising. Nagsisisi na binoto yung Lunatic sa Malacañang.

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    #12550
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Marami na rin nagigising. Nagsisisi na binoto yung Lunatic sa Malacañang.
    Meron isa dito hindi magising, siguro dead na!

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    #12551
    alam nyo kung reklamo nyo kay presdu eh hindi disente eh sabi nga nung member ng intelligencia na pinuntahan ko eh wala tao perfecto.... ang importante ano ba results sa kanyang ginampanan tungkulin...

    Magbigay ako example...

    panahon ni erap pinakagrabe traffic.... si binay mmda chairman... ang angas pa ng mayor ng makati na yan pero ampaw naman...

    term ni noynoy isa din na may worst ang traffic.... ang mmda si twinkle twinkle eyes...

    Ngayon kay presdu gulat kayo christmas season wala katraffic-traffic..... diskarte lang yan..... iclose ng mas late ang malls...

    at sino presidente kaya murahin mga jeepney driver.... Ang laki na inaasenso ng kalsada ngayon except for the ugly city of manila ni erap...

    yung mga disente pinagmamalaki nyo eh result driven ba????? Eh pag nabuking na biglang iiwanan ka sa ere.... babanatan ka ng "wala ako alam jan" hahahahah

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    #12552
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
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    i've been saying this long ago

    people were willing to overlook du30's foul mouth

    coz they hated the decent elites so much they're willing to accept du30 and all his flaws

    huwag lang sila Aquino uli



    --



    Just like many Americans voted for Trump

    coz they hated Obama/Clinton liberal policy so much that they're willing to accept Trump and all his flaws

    a Clinton win would be another 4 years of Obama policy
    Oo nga eh paulit-ulit na. Hindi tanga mga tao dito, they got the point the first few times you repeated it around 200 pages ago. In case you haven't noticed, we're now closer to the midterm elections in 2019 than the 2016 elections.

    All you're rambling about is why the 16M voted for Duterte. They hate the current set of rulers, they're willing to tolerate whatever crass attitude the new set of officials have. Okay, got it, done.

    Can we move on to the present and have a pragmatic discussion on the current government's performance?

    Now, almost 2 years into the administration, many of the campaign promises have been empty. I won't even entertain the noise that comes out of his mouth - just the actions and their repercussions.

    Instead of jetskiing to Scarborough and asserting our sovereignty, Duterte has been way too friendly with the Chinese - the inaction on the actions of China regarding Benham Rise is the latest among them. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the government is opening up the country for the Chinese in exchange for economic deals.

    It would've been fine if China had a good track record with the countries it loans to. But again, it's obvious that it isn't just an economic agreement - there are always strings attached, and in this case, China basically wants the Philippines to be their bitch. And this government is very much open to that, at the expense of our sovereignty.

    Instead of ending the drug problem in 6 months, the administration has instead waged a war on the poor, disregarded due process, and let the bigtime druglords escape scot-free. After over 10,000 have been killed, the drug problem is still there, and all you really have is a heightened culture of impunity among the police force.

    Instead of bringing good change to the government and ridding it of corruption, this administration simply came with a new set of corrupt and self-serving thugs. The epitome would be Alvarez - his actions are akin to giving you a slap on your face, followed by, "o ano, papalag ka?"

    What I think is the most dangerous move of the government right now is the unabashed and deliberate act of consolidating power and ensuring that they will remain as the ruling party for a long time. All of this is masked under the push for federalism.

    The issue is not the system of government - whether it's unitary or federal, if you've got corrupt and self-serving feudal lords running the country, you still don't solve the problem. In fact, federalism will further empower the entrenched regional political dynasties, allowing them to all become Ampatuans in the future.

    If the admin's plan comes to fruition (which is likely given how they bulldoze everyone who goes in their way), you basically allow the current set of officials to run the country undisturbed for at least the next 10 years, as specified in the transition guidelines being put forth.

    What makes it even more problematic is that despite this bleak outlook for the country, the president still enjoys a +75 net trust rating. They are able to sustain this by employing clever machinery to continuously demonize the previous administration, implying that everything wrong with this country was the past admin's fault, and only he can save this country.

    Again looking at it pragmatically, if you want to dismantle this grand plan of consolidating power into authoritarian rule under Duterte and his goons, two key things have to happen - 1) the Filipino people must not allow charter change to push through via the plebescite, and 2) the Filipino people must break the supermajority by voting senators, congressmen, and local officials that aren't lapdogs and yes-men of Duterte.

    For that to happen, the majority of the Filipinos must oppose the plans set forth by the administration. One way to look at this is to remember that at its peak during the elections, only 16M voted for Duterte, which does not comprise a majority. Now with all the muck-ups of the government, it can be assumed that should it come down to a vote, less than 16M will vote affirmatively to charter change.

    If we want to make a real impact and further increase the base of people opposing the government's plans, it must happen by changing the minds of those within our sphere of influence. What must be clear is that social media trolls are not part of our sphere of influence. Whether paid hacks or real but brainwashed people, you can't possibly engage in meaningful discourse with them with the end result of changing their minds.

    Instead, have real conversations with the people around you - your friends, family, workers, staff, etc. The key is to not feed the divisiveness. The only way to get someone to agree with you is to first establish that you are on the same side. That side should be the side that aspires for a better future for this country for the current and future generations.

    As the popular song says, "Hindi pula't dilaw ang tunay na magkalaban."

    Now, if the cha-cha pushes through and the plebiscite ratifies it, and if this administration finds itself in power for the next decade, then there's not much we can do but fend for ourselves and our families. The rich, influential, and upwardly-mobile will most likely still find themselves on the top of the food chain regardless of what happens in the political sphere. It's the poor and marginalized that are more affected by what's to come.

    Here's to hoping that the Philippines makes it through and actually emerges better off after all is said and done in this chapter of Philippine government.

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    #12553
    Something that the ICC might be interested to know...

    US intelligence lists Duterte as threat to democracy in Southeast Asia | Headlines | The Philippine Star

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Something that the ICC might be interested to know...

    US intelligence lists Duterte as threat to democracy in Southeast Asia | Headlines | The Philippine Star

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    wala na din sense yan mga ganyan mga release release. I have been monitoring the US or particularly Trump's US. it's also autocratic. maybe that's why the predictions of Nostradamus and others that world war III will start in American domestic didnt happen coz the US now has a leader who understands the right wing militias.

    let's face it guys, hindi na kayo in mga pa-liberal liberal mga pa-opinion opinionated, high fallutin dami sinasabi flowery words. the majority of the people of the world are tired of this. they want ACTION!

    Action speak louder than words. The Pen is not mightier than the sword. It is better to be warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war type of people na ulit.

    sooner or later showbiz will dispose Vice Ganda lahat ng kabaklaan saka mga coniotic Erwan or whoever, babalik na ulit sila Romy Diaz, Paquito Diaz, Lito Lapid, Ronnie Rickets, Roi Vinzons type of idols. tama na kabaklaan and political correctness.

    each and everyone agree that politics and politicians are wrong to begin with, if feels wrong inside your deeper self. eh baket nyo kino-correct?

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    #12555
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Oo nga eh paulit-ulit na. Hindi tanga mga tao dito, they got the point the first few times you repeated it around 200 pages ago. In case you haven't noticed, we're now closer to the midterm elections in 2019 than the 2016 elections.

    All you're rambling about is why the 16M voted for Duterte. They hate the current set of rulers, they're willing to tolerate whatever crass attitude the new set of officials have. Okay, got it, done.

    Can we move on to the present and have a pragmatic discussion on the current government's performance?

    Now, almost 2 years into the administration, many of the campaign promises have been empty. I won't even entertain the noise that comes out of his mouth - just the actions and their repercussions.

    Instead of jetskiing to Scarborough and asserting our sovereignty, Duterte has been way too friendly with the Chinese - the inaction on the actions of China regarding Benham Rise is the latest among them. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the government is opening up the country for the Chinese in exchange for economic deals.

    It would've been fine if China had a good track record with the countries it loans to. But again, it's obvious that it isn't just an economic agreement - there are always strings attached, and in this case, China basically wants the Philippines to be their bitch. And this government is very much open to that, at the expense of our sovereignty.

    Instead of ending the drug problem in 6 months, the administration has instead waged a war on the poor, disregarded due process, and let the bigtime druglords escape scot-free. After over 10,000 have been killed, the drug problem is still there, and all you really have is a heightened culture of impunity among the police force.

    Instead of bringing good change to the government and ridding it of corruption, this administration simply came with a new set of corrupt and self-serving thugs. The epitome would be Alvarez - his actions are akin to giving you a slap on your face, followed by, "o ano, papalag ka?"

    What I think is the most dangerous move of the government right now is the unabashed and deliberate act of consolidating power and ensuring that they will remain as the ruling party for a long time. All of this is masked under the push for federalism.

    The issue is not the system of government - whether it's unitary or federal, if you've got corrupt and self-serving feudal lords running the country, you still don't solve the problem. In fact, federalism will further empower the entrenched regional political dynasties, allowing them to all become Ampatuans in the future.

    If the admin's plan comes to fruition (which is likely given how they bulldoze everyone who goes in their way), you basically allow the current set of officials to run the country undisturbed for at least the next 10 years, as specified in the transition guidelines being put forth.

    What makes it even more problematic is that despite this bleak outlook for the country, the president still enjoys a +75 net trust rating. They are able to sustain this by employing clever machinery to continuously demonize the previous administration, implying that everything wrong with this country was the past admin's fault, and only he can save this country.

    Again looking at it pragmatically, if you want to dismantle this grand plan of consolidating power into authoritarian rule under Duterte and his goons, two key things have to happen - 1) the Filipino people must not allow charter change to push through via the plebescite, and 2) the Filipino people must break the supermajority by voting senators, congressmen, and local officials that aren't lapdogs and yes-men of Duterte.

    For that to happen, the majority of the Filipinos must oppose the plans set forth by the administration. One way to look at this is to remember that at its peak during the elections, only 16M voted for Duterte, which does not comprise a majority. Now with all the muck-ups of the government, it can be assumed that should it come down to a vote, less than 16M will vote affirmatively to charter change.

    If we want to make a real impact and further increase the base of people opposing the government's plans, it must happen by changing the minds of those within our sphere of influence. What must be clear is that social media trolls are not part of our sphere of influence. Whether paid hacks or real but brainwashed people, you can't possibly engage in meaningful discourse with them with the end result of changing their minds.

    Instead, have real conversations with the people around you - your friends, family, workers, staff, etc. The key is to not feed the divisiveness. The only way to get someone to agree with you is to first establish that you are on the same side. That side should be the side that aspires for a better future for this country for the current and future generations.

    As the popular song says, "Hindi pula't dilaw ang tunay na magkalaban."

    Now, if the cha-cha pushes through and the plebiscite ratifies it, and if this administration finds itself in power for the next decade, then there's not much we can do but fend for ourselves and our families. The rich, influential, and upwardly-mobile will most likely still find themselves on the top of the food chain regardless of what happens in the political sphere. It's the poor and marginalized that are more affected by what's to come.

    Here's to hoping that the Philippines makes it through and actually emerges better off after all is said and done in this chapter of Philippine government.

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    juts, magpapakasal ka pa. advice lang bro, the year I got married, I stopped listening to current events para maganda ang aura wedding ko hihi

    ang kailangan mo lang isipin ay ang iyong soon-to-be-wife and your wedding. dont stress yourself with these things na. the time I got married ganun din politics and media, they always paint a picture of a looming doom. na para bang wala kami future.

    there is, I see the wisdom in this stage of our lives as Filipinos. and myPres is best President for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelany View Post
    Meron isa dito hindi magising, siguro dead na!
    Pa-PM naman kung sino yan.

    Kung patay na nga, padalhan condolences.

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    #12557
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    wala na din sense yan mga ganyan mga release release. I have been monitoring the US or particularly Trump's US. it's also autocratic.
    Tama

    Kung threat to democracy si du30

    Ano si Trump?

    Lahat ng news na di pabor sa kanya fake news

    And what's the US gonna do about du30?

    Remove him and install a US-friendly puppet?

    And China and Russia are just gonna sit there and watch?

    Iba na ang mundo ngayon
    Last edited by uls; February 21st, 2018 at 02:12 AM.

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    #12558
    Nobody's perfect, I think lahat sila may tinatago, kahit na yung sinasabi nating mga mabuting politicians, they have succumb to corruption one way or the other, maybe they have accepted bribery or even helped someone for a project, we will never know, sila lng nakakalaam.

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    #12559
    Here is another example of a pretentious person who has openly embraced kabastusan as the norm. I believe INC respect their women but look at how being a fanatic DDS twisted his brain.

    Anthony Taberna's ***ist Remarks On Umagang Kay Ganda | SPOT.ph

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    #12560
    Move forward daw

    Oh yeah I can move forward

    When his term his up he's going to jail

    Think they gonna let the happen?

    They have 4 years to alter the course future history

    Change the constitution, change the form of govt, whatever

    2022 election may never happen

    They got plans

    They gonna dismantle the Aquino (1986) legacy
    Last edited by uls; February 21st, 2018 at 08:45 AM.

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