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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Schools are infrastructures too. How is it different it's a place of learning infrastructure. Museums, ballparks, ballrooms, central parks are upgraded learning and leisure infrastructures.


    Do we have that here? What we have are public schools that are just concrete buildings. Same as paved roads and bridges.

    Kaya siguro ang idea mo lang ng infeastruture ay semento
    the basic physical and organizational structures and facilities (e.g., buildings, roads, and power supplies) needed for the operation of a society or enterprise.

    "ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURES"

    kaya sinabe ko ung sa roads we loss a lot of **** economy sa traffic itself alone :P
    kung wala pang traffic maybe hinde lang 6.4 % ang GDP naten

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    My experience is the opposite - most of my entrepreneurial friends actually support the reforms of Henares. They know that it's tougher on them now, but they take solace in the hope that taxes and tarrifs will be collected fairly from everyone as long as the momentum isn't broken.

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    Same sentiments with the upper echelon here in my privince. Maka-MR kaso durog sa dami nang bibotante(Binay). Akala pa rin nila si Binay nagpayamanbsa Makati.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambo149 View Post
    the basic physical and organizational structures and facilities (e.g., buildings, roads, and power supplies) needed for the operation of a society or enterprise.

    "ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURES"

    kaya sinabe ko ung sa roads we loss a lot of **** economy sa traffic itself alone :P
    kung wala pang traffic maybe hinde lang 6.4 % ang GDP naten
    That is how we are brainwashed. Na-semento lang happy na tayo sa taxes natin

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    Our GDP will never improve because we do not produce whole individuals. Unlike in America with their educstional systems and infrastructures and dedication to R&D.

    We even failed as an agricultural economy or even manufacturing economy. something that our neighbors like china, Japan, thailand went thru.

    So you'd think no traffic is the answer to our progress hehe.

    The reason why they are so many in the roads trying to make a living (peddlers, puv drivers, police protectors, barkers, vendors etc). Is because these people have nothing else to do or channel their god given gifts to. They have no purpose so no matter how you improve your life as a corporate professional. These people will pull you down, case of one rotten apple in a basket

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    That is how we are brainwashed. Na-semento lang happy na tayo sa taxes natin

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    Our GDP will never improve because we do not produce whole individuals. Unlike in America with their educstional systems and infrastructures and dedication to R&D.

    We even failed as an agricultural economy or even manufacturing economy. something that our neighbors like china, Japan, thailand went thru.

    So you'd think no traffic is the answer to our progress hehe.

    The reason why they are so many in the roads trying to make a living (peddlers, puv drivers, police protectors, barkers, vendors etc). Is because these people have nothing else to do or channel their god given gifts to. They have no purpose so no matter how you improve your life as a corporate professional. These people will pull you down, case of one rotten apple in a basket
    American education is declining. Time magazine, forbes have published stories about the dire sitiation of their education.

    Roads, bridges and other basic infra is still very much needed. Kulang pa tayo dyan. Alangan naman airports ang gawin mobsa isang lugar eh publuc market nga at waiting shed wala. Also in the provinces dualntriple purpose daanan. Dyan binibilad palay at pinapatuyo. Dyan nilalatag mga for dried goods. Tsaka siyempre halfcourt nang basketball.

    Yung iba nga giants sungkaan pa eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    That is how we are brainwashed. Na-semento lang happy na tayo sa taxes natin

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    Our GDP will never improve because we do not produce whole individuals. Unlike in America with their educstional systems and infrastructures and dedication to R&D.

    We even failed as an agricultural economy or even manufacturing economy. something that our neighbors like china, Japan, thailand went thru.

    So you'd think no traffic is the answer to our progress hehe.

    The reason why they are so many in the roads trying to make a living (peddlers, puv drivers, police protectors, barkers, vendors etc). Is because these people have nothing else to do or channel their god given gifts to. They have no purpose so no matter how you improve your life as a corporate professional. These people will pull you down, case of one rotten apple in a basket
    bagsak den ang economy ng US and nagkakaroon ng economic bubble. Maybe afterall iba iba den ang ihip ng hangin pg sa economics. sa middle east wala naman whole individuals but my oil resources sila but nasa cream of the crop sila.

    singapore dont produce inviduals but meron sila gatasan PORT infra "Currently the world's second-busiest port in terms of total shipping tonnage". Mataas ang cost of living sa kanila

    sabi nga nila mahirap daw ang pinas. pero ang naghihirap sa pinas ung hinde nagtratrabaho. maybe after all nasa tao den talaga un. #brainwashed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    American education is declining. Time magazine, forbes have published stories about the dire sitiation of their education.

    Roads, bridges and other basic infra is still very much needed. Kulang pa tayo dyan. Alangan naman airports ang gawin mobsa isang lugar eh publuc market nga at waiting shed wala. Also in the provinces dualntriple purpose daanan. Dyan binibilad palay at pinapatuyo. Dyan nilalatag mga for dried goods. Tsaka siyempre halfcourt nang basketball.

    Yung iba nga giants sungkaan pa eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambo149 View Post
    bagsak den ang economy ng US and nagkakaroon ng economic bubble. Maybe afterall iba iba den ang ihip ng hangin pg sa economics. sa middle east wala naman whole individuals but my oil resources sila but nasa cream of the crop sila.

    singapore dont produce inviduals but meron sila gatasan PORT infra "Currently the world's second-busiest port in terms of total shipping tonnage". Mataas ang cost of living sa kanila

    sabi nga nila mahirap daw ang pinas. pero ang naghihirap sa pinas ung hinde nagtratrabaho. maybe after all nasa tao den talaga un. #brainwashed
    Pero nakatamasa na sila ng progress. Tayo wala pa

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    #508
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Schools are infrastructures too. How is it different? it's a place of learning infrastructure. Museums, ballparks, ballrooms, central parks are upgraded learning and leisure infrastructures.


    Do we have that here? What we have are public schools that are just concrete buildings. Same as paved roads and bridges.

    Kaya siguro ang idea mo lang ng infeastruture ay semento. Upgrade your thinking bro. The reason why we are glued to the internet is that's a virtual world where we experience what we truly are: science, logic etc.

    Wala ni isa nyan sa iniikutan natin Pilipinas. And that's why we will never be a great nation
    schoolbuildings are easy. set 'em up and they'll stay there for a long time.
    but how about the people the building will be housing? that's the hard part. good teachers are difficult to come by..

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    #509
    An area na bagsak para sa akin ang current Admin is in the power sector.
    Wala pa rin pagbabago ang mahal pa rin ng kuryente at madalas pa rin ang power interruption sa mga area outside of NCR.

    Kakayanin kaya ng magic ni Duterte yan? Pagpatay at pagmumura din kaya ang sagot para mag improve yan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bin Diesel View Post
    An area na bagsak para sa akin ang current Admin is in the power sector.
    Wala pa rin pagbabago ang mahal pa rin ng kuryente at madalas pa rin ang power interruption sa mga area outside of NCR.

    Kakayanin kaya ng magic ni Duterte yan? Pagpatay at pagmumura din kaya ang sagot para mag improve yan?
    2 routes eyed for grid interconnection: official | Mindanao Times

    yeah. power sector sa mindanao kaya mahirap ang progress. meron current project ang administration na connecting "submarine cable wires" visayas to mindanao to suppy ng kuryente. problem eh hinde kaya isang MAGIC maconnect agad un.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bin Diesel View Post
    An area na bagsak para sa akin ang current Admin is in the power sector.
    Wala pa rin pagbabago ang mahal pa rin ng kuryente at madalas pa rin ang power interruption sa mga area outside of NCR.

    Kakayanin kaya ng magic ni Duterte yan? Pagpatay at pagmumura din kaya ang sagot para mag improve yan?
    Pagmumura daw ni Duterte yung MERALCO at -ELCO para dumami kuryente.

    There are a lot of power projects lined-up today but these will come into effect still in the coming years. In fairness to the current admin, a power project takes several years and to materialize (feasibility, capital raising, loans, environmental/LGU issues, compliance, regulations, etc.) and it was only in the past few years that I have seen a lot of groups move to really invest in the Power Sector. This was not the case when i was in banking during the GMA administration, I did not see as much syndicated loans going out for the power sector as it is today (parang dati, Aboitiz lang yung naririnig ko mag-undertake ng large scale power projects and that was usually to rehab an existing asset i think); I asked one power sector player what they usual hurdles are and he mentioned that the problem encountered would always be the see-sawing regulations which kept the private sector from really pursuing power-related endeavors. However, with the power projects coming up, some may be more expensive (such as for renewable energy) as the government had to give incentives to make them feasible to investors.

    So far, at least in my circle, the people whom i observe to be for Mar are generally the quiet ones. He definitely isn't perfect but that is acknowledged and being in the business sector i see more sensibility in moving forward with what has been achieved so far. We are getting somewhere but not-quite at the pace we want and with the results desired. The ones i see shouting out for Duterte are... well... expecting overnight change it seems and some are usually noisy about everything else just as well. When i attend economic briefings with foreign analysts, what they always mention when it comes to election-related questions is they are looking at who will continue what the current admin is laying or build something that follows-up from that. That will speak a lot on foreign investment post 2016 and for hot money flows as well.
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    From 24Oras.....

    SWS Survey (11/26-28)
    Duterte - 38%
    GP - 21%
    Nognog- 21%

    Tie yung 2. Si mar 3rd place.
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    regarding power generation, afaik quite a few plants are going online in the near future. The Alcantara group alone has a few coal-fired plants that will add something like 200-300MW to Visayas/Mindanao. Petilla has commented that there may very well be a surplus by 2017.

    Now, when we talk about PPP, that is a totally different story.

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    What some Digong fanbois don't understand and this goes the ssme to GP,s pasaring in tv ads. Bureaucracy inherited by pNoy is so corrupt and dysfunctional that 6 years is not enough to get them inline and move forward in a pace we may find acceptable.

    They are not looking in the big picture and into the future. Nagsawa na sa system mga yan kaya they want a moracle via Digong and GP. Well good luck with that.

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    And pag hindi nagawa ni Digong ang mga pangako niya in 6 years, people are gonna bash him the same way that Daang Matuwid is being pummeled to the ground right now.

    People don't seem to get it - 6 YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR A RADICAL IMPROVEMENT IN THE COUNTRY.

    This is especially true if people continue to leave the nation-building to the government, refusing to bear the burden and be the good citizens that's necessary for a progressive nation.

    Gusto niyong presidente superhero/genie? Good luck.


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    The best part of the current line-up of presidential candidates is that with Miriam & Digong, meron expectation. Yung the rest, wala talaga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    And pag hindi nagawa ni Digong ang mga pangako niya in 6 years, people are gonna bash him the same way that Daang Matuwid is being pummeled to the ground right now.

    People don't seem to get it - 6 YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR A RADICAL IMPROVEMENT IN THE COUNTRY.

    This is especially true if people continue to leave the nation-building to the government, refusing to bear the burden and be the good citizens that's necessary for a progressive nation.

    Gusto niyong presidente superhero/genie? Good luck.


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    The disappointment many people feel toward this admin is not solely because of unmet promises. However, many people can see clearly now that in so many ways this admin is no different from the past administrations. "Tuwid na Daan" is just a slogan, nothing more. How can you respect someone who is not firing the likes of Abaya and Soliman. Also, an administration that does not believe in command responsibility. Sabi nga kapag KKK ka, untouchable ka.

    If Digong wins, he should learn from this. Dapat wala syang kakampihan. Kung pumapatay at magkukulong sya ng criminal dapat may example din syang ganun sa mga kakampi nya na nagkasala. Wag syang tumulad sa Pnoy admin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noitimed View Post
    The disappointment many people feel toward this admin is not solely because of unmet promises. However, many people can see clearly now that in so many ways this admin is no different from the past administrations. "Tuwid na Daan" is just a slogan, nothing more. How can you respect someone who is not firing the likes of Abaya and Soliman. Also, an administration that does not believe in command responsibility. Sabi nga kapag KKK ka, untouchable ka.

    If Digong wins, he should learn from this. Dapat wala syang kakampihan. Kung pumapatay at magkukulong sya ng criminal dapat may example din syang ganun sa mga kakampi nya na nagkasala. Wag syang tumulad sa Pnoy admin.

    Abnoy endorsement is a kiss of death being 2nd worse in all former presidents. I pity Mar, he was totally abused by Abnoy from the start yet he kept defending the idiot when is 100X more starter than him.

    Aquino endorsement power -26 in Metro | Inquirer News

    In Metro Manila, the impact of the President’s endorsement was a huge -26 percent.

    The net effect of endorsement by past Presidents was also negative. It was -6 for Joseph Estrada, -16 for Fidel Ramos and -34 for Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    And pag hindi nagawa ni Digong ang mga pangako niya in 6 years, people are gonna bash him the same way that Daang Matuwid is being pummeled to the ground right now.

    People don't seem to get it - 6 YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR A RADICAL IMPROVEMENT IN THE COUNTRY.

    This is especially true if people continue to leave the nation-building to the government, refusing to bear the burden and be the good citizens that's necessary for a progressive nation.

    Gusto niyong presidente superhero/genie? Good luck.


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    The tragedy is that everyone expects someone else to to the job but many fail to do their part. This will be the case, be it Duterte, Grace, Mar, or Miriam who sits on the throne.

    On a related note, i find the "malasikit" tag line of GP oh-so-lame. Parang para may masabi lang. In fairness to Digong, at least yung Kamay na bakal stance niya has basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by noitimed View Post
    The disappointment many people feel toward this admin is not solely because of unmet promises. However, many people can see clearly now that in so many ways this admin is no different from the past administrations. "Tuwid na Daan" is just a slogan, nothing more. How can you respect someone who is not firing the likes of Abaya and Soliman. Also, an administration that does not believe in command responsibility. Sabi nga kapag KKK ka, untouchable ka.

    If Digong wins, he should learn from this. Dapat wala syang kakampihan. Kung pumapatay at magkukulong sya ng criminal dapat may example din syang ganun sa mga kakampi nya na nagkasala. Wag syang tumulad sa Pnoy admin.
    I agree there is disappointment with the current admin with several facets but my read on this is that it is further compounded by political opportunists who jump at anything to further publicize shortcomings and places all the other achievements in the back burner (and drag ratings down). I have a relative who is a career DPWH employee (and a clean one at that from reputation and just by looking at his simple lifestyle, and that of his family) and he can tell me straight that at the start of the current admin things were slow to get going because a lot of things had to be reviewed. He can say outright that corruption has been indeed reduced (not eradicated but there are definite achievements over what went on before). When i hear stories from him and other contractors on how it was under the GMA administration (who incidentally, continues to run for Congress in Pampanga, unopposed), it's a blatant reminder of how easy us Pinoys forget.

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    KKK? Wala yan pag nanalo si digong. Makaka uwi na ang ulo ng NPA sa pinas.

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