Hay... naku kung meron mang papalit, and VP lang talaga yun. Talagang gigil na gigil na ang mga pulitiko na tuloyan na tayong maging banana republic ano.
Peso is recovering now and all of the sudden we self destruct!![]()
Hay... naku kung meron mang papalit, and VP lang talaga yun. Talagang gigil na gigil na ang mga pulitiko na tuloyan na tayong maging banana republic ano.
Peso is recovering now and all of the sudden we self destruct!![]()
Last edited by CoDer; February 22nd, 2006 at 10:32 AM.
based on Arroyo's statement mukhang tuloy na ang charter change hehehe
I guess she's telling it like it is.
Can anyone point to a better leader?
If yes, where are they now and what are they doing? Did they run during the last election?
If none, could we just please shut up and go to work for the betterment of our nation?
hmmm...statement similar to what marcos said in before he called for snap election. so you are saying that aroyo is the only option? well...the country really deseve the aroyo government then.Originally Posted by Mguy
Originally Posted by explorer
Well there was one during Marcos time but he was assassinated. During the snap election, everybody was better than Marcos, in my opinion. He was sitting for at least 20 years and the country was crumbling.
What i'm saying now that there are a lot of people asking her to resign now, and when Noli becomes president, everybody will ask him to resign also. And who will replace him? Everybody is asking everybody to resign and yet nobody is even coming forward with a viable replacement. This puts our hard fought democracy into question. Why the hell do we go thru elections if nobody respects it anymore.
Arroyo is the only option because it is mandated. I didn't vote for her but I least I moved forward. It is very easy to accuse someone of cheating. But either way, I still respect the people who voted for her.
The country deserves whatever goverment it chooses. It deserves the Senate, the Congress, never blame it all on just Arroyo. I just hope you are not the kind that blame your lot in life because of Arroyo.
I've been at EDSA 1 because I wanted change. The government did change, the press changed a lot, the people changed probably for the worst because they have become critical of everything that is done by the government (whoever is sitting) and the end result is that it never gets the opportunity to move forward. People always compare this and that to the previous regime. ie. whoever sits as the customs head is always corrupt, no matter what his background maybe.
What I hope is that everybody would just move forward, give her mandated chance. All I know if that everybody moves at the right direction, one single direction, keeping everyone in check, the country would come up on top.
What I hope is that everybody would just move forward, give her mandated chance. All I know if that everybody moves at the right direction, one single direction, keeping everyone in check, the country would come up on top.[/QUOTE]
Malabo yan kung ang na halal ay di nakakuha ng malaking lamang sa botohan. It only shows na divided ang mga tao at mahihirapan sya mag karoon ng peaceful governance. Pasalamat sya at pagod na ang tao sa ka people power dahil kung hindi, talsik sya since yong mga cover up at kasinungalingan na ginagawa nya at mga alipores nya, masyadong garapal na talaga, nakakasuka na sya. Porke mga alipores din nya ang majority sa congress, kayang kaya nila harangin pag alam nila na tagilid sila. Grabe talaga sya, pag tumagal pa sya, mas malala pa yan kay Marcos. Marcos took him 20 years at least pero sya ilang taon pa lang ba?
that 'constitutional succession excuse' is what makes the country going backward....if it takes a civil war to change the whole country...so be it...but i wouldn't buy that idea that constitutional succession just to let her out of the hook....if we need to hang erap, ramos, the marcoses, aroyo, and the rest of the corrupt people, the 'new' government has to do it....do you think we can go forward because we let aroyo finish her term and let the new elected president assume the presidency? what do you think the aroyo succesor do if we just let her finish her term after the 'hello graci scandal'? do you think the succeeding presidents wouldn't do what arroyo did because anyway aroyo was able to go away with it (remember marcos and erap because we just let them go without punishing them to what they did to the country?) there are more important issues than constitutional succession. i wouldn't mind 'drastic' succession for as long as it will bring change to the country. in fact, i believe we are not going forward because the 2 people powers that happened were bloodless...had the 1st people power been a very bloody one, there won't even be the 2nd people power and things are surely different than what we have now.
Originally Posted by Mguy
Last edited by explorer; February 24th, 2006 at 03:48 AM.
no, the Constitution is what prevents the country from descending into complete anarchy or being taken over by another despot. i can understand your frustration about due process but as i said before, you can forget about being called a democracy if you let violence or mob rule dictate who runs your country.Originally Posted by explorer
would you rather have a dictator or military junta take over? ask the Iraqis, Cubans and Brazilians how well that worked for them. have a problem who's running the country? campaign for a better candidate and cast your vote for him or her.
and are we talking about civil war here, or some other bloody conflict for power? the only people who are in favor of civil war (a) are stupid, and (b) have never been affected by one. i suggest you read up on what happened in Somalia, Bosnia and Afghanistan to see just how horrible civil war is. then imagine that happening to you, your family and your friends.
Last edited by empy; February 24th, 2006 at 04:31 AM.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with your solution. This is the 21st century my friend, only countries with very low literacy rate takes this path in 'solving' their problems, which we all know doesn't work anymore.Originally Posted by explorer
I hope people would learn that change or moving forward does not start with the president. It starts with the masses. And if you think that the people you see in the streets now are the masses, guess again. There are 70 million people in the Philippines and the percentage you see in the streets would barely reach 1%. The rest are moving forward, going on with their daily life, not caring who sits there in Malacanang, but doing their little bit to save this nation.Originally Posted by explorer
I don't see why there is a big fuss about this. So, she talked an Comelec officer during election time. Its like talking to your teacher during final exams. It may seem inappropriate but it is never a proof that you cheated. Opposition are just capitalizing on this, making suggestive remarks about the whole matter. Look, every precinct, there was a representative of all parties there. They did their own counting. They would easily see if there were big anomalies during the election day itself. But no, they had to wait for a tape to be played first.Originally Posted by explorer
Brave words. I've been to Mendiola a number of times, being bombarded by water cannons and tear gas during the Marcos days. I've been to EDSA 1 literally stopping tanks and heavily armed soldiers by forming a human barricade in the vacant lot where Galleria now stands. Of course I am and I done my bit already.Originally Posted by explorer
Sabi ng divided opposition na si ERAP para sa mahirap/Tito sotto or Susan roces w/ Cory Aquino as adviser daw ang best alternative..............action/drama and comedy ang politics natin!
LORD sana kuhanin nyo na ang mga excess Politicians sa bansa namin!PLS. lang po!
The more Filipinos who embrance the "OUST THE PRESIDENT" movement, the more this country will take backward steps or stay stagnant... Regardless of who sits.
I'm not pro-GMA at all, but think about it, there's no way ANYONE can run this stupid government to any forward-direction without ample time... The only way to do that (quick turnaround) is to implement an iron-fist, which, again, Filipinos will just complain once again.
if she's the duly elected representative of the people (and yes, i know that many dispute the election results) then people have no choice but to accept her rule until her term is over.
if the mob majority will always want to change governments for one reason or the other, then forget about calling the philippines a democracy and just do some kind of hybrid anarchist/dictatorship government.
the president is the president regardless of whether you voted for him/her or not.
Agree. If she is the duly-elected President of the Philippines,- then so be it. Serve her full-term? No qualms.
I think the issue here is, 'manipulating' the by-laws of the land to change the form of government (telling the constituents that this is the best thing, given the current situation), but with a personal agenda to extend one's stay in power. Sounds familiar?
Been there; done that in the 70s......
Shadaaaaaaaaapppppppp!!! just do your job as the leader of the country. Jail all the crooks in your government and even your family members. Fix our economy stop making pogi points!
Originally Posted by Isuzoom
Yan ang matagal nang hinihintay ng 85M na mga Pinoys.
Pero.........wala rin eh!
my sentiments...Originally Posted by Isuzoom
ano na nangyari sa fertilizer scam? nasan na si jok-jok volante ba yun? whoever she is... north rail project? ang dami nilang binabalewala kung saan-saan napupunta mga pera ng taong bayan...tapos magpapataw sila ng dagdag na buwis... may lakas ng loob pa na sabihin best person to lead.
walng kasing KAPAL!
lecheng gobyerno! :fire:
Dapat ganito sinabi niya "I'm the BEAST person to lead" bow kaming mga ilokano pag ganyan sabihin nya.