Anthropogenic Climate Change: Skepticism and why science is never settled

[b_9904]

You're right to a greater extent but one component of emission, CO2, is a greenhouse gas. Oh well, if there is no concrete proof that greenhouse gas really contributes to climate change then I guess we can just exert effort to minimize our contribution on pollution..

If you are using greenhouse gas to mean only co2, then yeah you are correct.

However, if you mean the totality of heat retaining gases, then you are wrong. Why? There are many greenhouse gases.

[safeorigin]

1951 to 2012? That's where your basis and premise are shaky. Go back hundreds of years since the start of the industrial revolution to map out how human activities have significantly impacted the climate.

But let me ask you. Are you one of those climate skeptics? Or are you still on the fence?

1951 to 2012 *IS* IPCC's data! the fact that you're skeptical with that alone already means you're questioning official climate scientists' methodology!

and, indeed, I have based the CO2 figure dating back from pre-industrial revolution to present(which is where I got the 3.22% man made CO2).

If you want the exact numbers as follows: 288,000 baseline(Pre-industrial); 68,520(New from natural source); 11,880(New from man made source). These are measured in GWP or global warming potential. These are straight from IPCC's methodology.

[b_9904]

Feel least guilty about driving an ICE vehicle. Philippines' contribution to carbon emissions is barely 0.1%


Top 10 worldwide


To assuage whatever guilt you may feel, just be fuel efficient with the car you're driving.

What we as Filipinos should really feel is anger. Our country is at the top 3 of the most affected by climate change in the world because of our location.

Yolanda was made worse because of sea level rise when the storm surge hit.

We will have more Ondoy like disasters in the future.

Metro Manila is one of the most climate vulnerable cities in one of the most vulnerable countries in the world, according to various reputable studies.



I don't want to sound alarmist but we should be alarmed

Climate change, the one we have right now, has nothing to do with increasing a storms power.

Type " historical Accumulated Cyclone Energy" on google. You will notice that we have had high ACE data scattered all over the timeline.

[safeorigin]

Climate change, the one we have right now, has nothing to do with increasing a storms power.

Type " historical Accumulated Cyclone Energy" on google. You will notice that we have had high ACE data scattered all over the timeline.

exactly. notice that the "crazy skeptics" are the ones presenting/advocating metrics even to the point of using IPCC's data!

[XploY]

to make the story short, what then drives the change in climate? if my memory serves me right, it was the meteor that hits earth --obliterate the dino and kickstart the rapid evolution, induced climate change. Before we draw conclusions, lets go back to the formation of our planet. Back then, theres no such thing as water. The whole planet is a molten lava.

[safeorigin]

for people who can't be bothered searching for global ACE and hurricane frequency...

[safeorigin]

to make the story short, what then drives the change in climate? if my memory serves me right, it was the meteor that hits earth --obliterate the dino and kickstart the rapid evolution, induced climate change. Before we draw conclusions, lets go back to the formation of our planet. Back then, theres no such thing as water. The whole planet is a molten lava.

that's not the entire picture though because we also have to take into account the ice age cycles, solar minimum cycles, el nino/la nina ocean oscillations, and others.

[timo07]

to make the story short, what then drives the change in climate? if my memory serves me right, it was the meteor that hits earth --obliterate the dino and kickstart the rapid evolution, induced climate change. Before we draw conclusions, lets go back to the formation of our planet. Back then, theres no such thing as water. The whole planet is a molten lava.

Goodluck drawing conclusions based on the history of this planet. Experts say Earth has been formed millions of years ago. Man has inhabited it for what, a couple or more thousand of years? Scientific study has not revealed all the facts yet, more are still theories....

[b_9904]

By the way, biofuels do not count as an alternative to fossil fuels, if you consider how it is made in relation to the global food and water security, and population and its growth rate.

With that said, ethanol 85 can do wonders to an engine

For the curious: https://youtu.be/ltWcgiCm4NY

[b_9904]

exactly. notice that the "crazy skeptics" are the ones presenting/advocating metrics even to the point of using IPCC's data!

Ditto bro.

Sigh...