"e-Jeepney" - The electric powered jeepney

[ghosthunter]

Lol, of course it will not be green anymore with this normal generator.

There are many ways to make this gen set green. GEET for one, hydroxy on the other... or combining them both.

Any small gen set can become an ultra low emission engine with the right set-up. GEET acts like a vapor carb - which basically induces fuel more efficiently than the normal carburetor type... Do they have EFi gen sets also?... if there is, then hydroxy on demand with GEET will keep this gen set green.

Maybe you can suggest something that doesn't turn the vehicle into a high school science project. If the thing is just too much of a bother to maintain for you, would you expect someone with a grade school education be able to operate and maintain it properly? I wouldn't.

[jpdm]

Adding an engine and a generator to an electric vehicle makes it a series hybrid. The Prius is a parallel hybrid.

In series hybrids the engine is not mechanically connected to the wheels. It is simpler and cheaper than a parallel hybrid but not as efficient at high speeds.

In parallel hybrids the engine and electric motor are both connected to the wheels. It is more complicated and more expensive.

The series hybrid configuration is good enough for the low speed, stop-and-go traffic the jeepney goes through. The hybrid electric jeepney can have a longer range than the e-jeepney and can replace all the normal jeepneys in the city because of better fuel economy. Additional bonus: air conditioning is possible.

Very interesting idea....

[ghosthunter]

Very interesting idea....

oh god... if that idea of putting a generator into an existing electric vehicle platform didn't come to you on it own...

[jpdm]

oh god... if that idea of putting a generator into an existing electric vehicle platform didn't come to you on it own...

Huh?

[romski123]

We got a lot of positive feedback for the e-Quad (electric Qadricycle).
It's meant to replace noisy and smoke belching tricycles.
Imagine not having to worry about roaring tricycles in your neighborhood waking you up in the middle of the night and not having to get a dirty facial when a tricycle spurts black smoke into your face if you happen to walk behind it.

[romski123]

Good news that government agencies are now buying the e-jeepneys...

Why not offer it in the industrial estates in Cavite or in CALABARZON?(Gateway, FCIE, Dai-ichi, CEZ. These are huge industrial export processing zones...) or in other La Salle System Schools with huge campuses aside from La Salle-Dasmarinas i.e. La Salle-Canlubang (largest), La Salle Lipa...

thanks for the suggestions. We will look into it. Cheers!

[hein]

We actually customize. and the design came from DLSU

Then its an Freakin UGLY Design from DLSU. Shame on you.

[jpdm]

We got a lot of positive feedback for the e-Quad (electric Qadricycle).
It's meant to replace noisy and smoke belching tricycles.
Imagine not having to worry about roaring tricycles in your neighborhood waking you up in the middle of the night and not having to get a dirty facial when a tricycle spurts black smoke into your face if you happen to walk behind it.

How much is the e-quad and e-jeepney right now?

[roberto_minosa]

Have engineers come up with a battery design that isn't as polluting to build and maintain?

[ghosthunter]

How much is the e-quad and e-jeepney right now?

The newspaper quotes the jeepney at P650,000. Just make sure you have P160,000 ready in 1.5 years so you afford to replace the battery pack after it is worn out.

Also on the same newspaper, the E-quad is listed for P300,000 if I read it correctly. No idea how much the battery pack would cost though.

[ghosthunter]

Have engineers come up with a battery design that isn't as polluting to build and maintain?

Nope. Choose your poison:

Lead acid
nickle carbide
nickle metal hydride
lithium ion or lithium polymer

Actually the last choice is less polluting but super expensive.

[roberto_minosa]

Nope. Choose your poison:

Lead acid
nickle carbide
nickle metal hydride
lithium ion or lithium polymer

Actually the last choice is less polluting but super expensive.

Yeah, only the Tesla deserves a whole bank of those. Now we're stuck with disposable Eveready's.
This sucks. I thought there was sensible progress on battery tech.

[niky]

Yeah, only the Tesla deserves a whole bank of those. Now we're stuck with disposable Eveready's.
This sucks. I thought there was sensible progress on battery tech.

Nope.

The only progress being made in battery-powered gadgets is that the gadgets are getting more energy-efficient. Li-Ion batteries are still expensive.

A couple of groups are working on ways to mass-produce Li-Ion for cheaper, but no luck yet.

[roberto_minosa]

I also heard about that. My lolo is very well-versed on electronics and pretty much anything electrical, and he told me that electric motors are highly inefficient devices as of now.

[romski123]

We are talking to motolite so that they may come up with a battery leasing program so that the consumer does not have to worry about replacing dead batteries. They can just lease and not own the batteries

[niky]

And the big problem is, to make them energy efficient, you need to use a lot of rare earths for the permanent magnets in the motors... which will make them more expensive...

We'll see how things go now that more companies are researching these vehicles... but so far, I'm not impressed by what I see being offered right now. The Tesla Model S might change my mind, but that car is still going to be way beyond the budget of the "ordinary" motorist... without tax breaks, it's likely to cost 6+ million pesos if brought in here.

[romski123]

check this out:
http://www.matternetwork.com/2009/10...tter-place.cfm

GM and Better Place are positioning for Electric Car Services. I think e-vihecles will be mainstream very very soon.

[roberto_minosa]

And the big problem is, to make them energy efficient, you need to use a lot of rare earths for the permanent magnets in the motors... which will make them more expensive...

We'll see how things go now that more companies are researching these vehicles... but so far, I'm not impressed by what I see being offered right now. The Tesla Model S might change my mind, but that car is still going to be way beyond the budget of the "ordinary" motorist... without tax breaks, it's likely to cost 6+ million pesos if brought in here.

Yeah, the Tesla will probably be impractical even for the filthy rich since home electricity cost here is just ludicrous.

But the 150+ mile range of that car is undoubtedly impressive.

[ghosthunter]

We are talking to motolite so that they may come up with a battery leasing program so that the consumer does not have to worry about replacing dead batteries. They can just lease and not own the batteries

So instead of paying P160,000 every 18 months, the e-jeepney owner have to pay a monthly "lease" of P8,900?

So what is the difference with that and paying for diesel fuel?

Where is the savings in operating cost then? Since the operator would be ending up having to pay P8,900/month plus the daily recharging cost.

Solve one problem, make a new one.

[ghosthunter]

check this out:
http://www.matternetwork.com/2009/10...tter-place.cfm

GM and Better Place are positioning for Electric Car Services. I think e-vihecles will be mainstream very very soon.

Better not believe all the PR BS you hear from the news. "Positioning" doesn't mean it has happened already.