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    #171
    Quote Originally Posted by roberto_minosa View Post
    Have engineers come up with a battery design that isn't as polluting to build and maintain?
    Nope. Choose your poison:

    Lead acid
    nickle carbide
    nickle metal hydride
    lithium ion or lithium polymer

    Actually the last choice is less polluting but super expensive.

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    #172
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Nope. Choose your poison:

    Lead acid
    nickle carbide
    nickle metal hydride
    lithium ion or lithium polymer

    Actually the last choice is less polluting but super expensive.
    Yeah, only the Tesla deserves a whole bank of those. Now we're stuck with disposable Eveready's.
    This sucks. I thought there was sensible progress on battery tech.

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    #173
    Quote Originally Posted by roberto_minosa View Post
    Yeah, only the Tesla deserves a whole bank of those. Now we're stuck with disposable Eveready's.
    This sucks. I thought there was sensible progress on battery tech.
    Nope.

    The only progress being made in battery-powered gadgets is that the gadgets are getting more energy-efficient. Li-Ion batteries are still expensive.

    A couple of groups are working on ways to mass-produce Li-Ion for cheaper, but no luck yet.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #174
    I also heard about that. My lolo is very well-versed on electronics and pretty much anything electrical, and he told me that electric motors are highly inefficient devices as of now.

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    #175
    We are talking to motolite so that they may come up with a battery leasing program so that the consumer does not have to worry about replacing dead batteries. They can just lease and not own the batteries

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    #176
    And the big problem is, to make them energy efficient, you need to use a lot of rare earths for the permanent magnets in the motors... which will make them more expensive...

    We'll see how things go now that more companies are researching these vehicles... but so far, I'm not impressed by what I see being offered right now. The Tesla Model S might change my mind, but that car is still going to be way beyond the budget of the "ordinary" motorist... without tax breaks, it's likely to cost 6+ million pesos if brought in here.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #177
    check this out:
    http://www.matternetwork.com/2009/10...tter-place.cfm

    GM and Better Place are positioning for Electric Car Services. I think e-vihecles will be mainstream very very soon.

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    #178
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    And the big problem is, to make them energy efficient, you need to use a lot of rare earths for the permanent magnets in the motors... which will make them more expensive...

    We'll see how things go now that more companies are researching these vehicles... but so far, I'm not impressed by what I see being offered right now. The Tesla Model S might change my mind, but that car is still going to be way beyond the budget of the "ordinary" motorist... without tax breaks, it's likely to cost 6+ million pesos if brought in here.
    Yeah, the Tesla will probably be impractical even for the filthy rich since home electricity cost here is just ludicrous.

    But the 150+ mile range of that car is undoubtedly impressive.

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    #179
    Quote Originally Posted by romski123 View Post
    We are talking to motolite so that they may come up with a battery leasing program so that the consumer does not have to worry about replacing dead batteries. They can just lease and not own the batteries
    So instead of paying P160,000 every 18 months, the e-jeepney owner have to pay a monthly "lease" of P8,900?

    So what is the difference with that and paying for diesel fuel?

    Where is the savings in operating cost then? Since the operator would be ending up having to pay P8,900/month plus the daily recharging cost.

    Solve one problem, make a new one.

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    #180
    Quote Originally Posted by romski123 View Post
    check this out:
    http://www.matternetwork.com/2009/10...tter-place.cfm

    GM and Better Place are positioning for Electric Car Services. I think e-vihecles will be mainstream very very soon.
    Better not believe all the PR BS you hear from the news. "Positioning" doesn't mean it has happened already.

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