Classics vs. Modern type jeep

[ghosthunter]

I dont care what others may say as long as I am "Happy" and riding my own wheels.

your money.

your comfort (or lack of it).

your safety (or the wholesale lack of any safety in design).

your public image.

As long as you're happy.

[uls]

go build one

[Jeepnoy]

your money.

your comfort (or lack of it).

your safety (or the wholesale lack of any safety in design).

your public image.

As long as you're happy.

money - you mean those who also have assembled wranglers didn't get their moneys worth?

Comforts - Just like what I said If I want to have comfort in my jeep Ill invest money.

Safety - the main problem in this aspect is the undiscipline drivers who doesn't wear seatbelt, who keeps driving eventhough under the presence of alcohol, speeding beyond the speed limit provided by the city ordinances, doesnt use signal lights when turning left or right and many more.

public image - Kahit nga bumili ang isang tao ng Wrangler Jeep from Orginal Jeep dealer ay iisipin pa rin ng most filipinos na assembled ang jeep na binili. They will began to ask "saan mo pinaasemble yan?" Also because of the tariff this original jeep should have been $20,000=below 1M but because of this taxes it cost more than the original price.

*I am only new to this forum and I came here not to argue but to read suggestions and ask information from people that could help me build my own jeep not to discourage me to build one.

[ghosthunter]

An accident is an accident, whatever the cause and whoever is to blame.

I would rather be alive and in one piece.

Automotive safety goes beyond the seat belt. If the vehicle itself that you are riding in is not safe, the seatbelt will not save you.

Not trying to discourage you from going for your "dream vehicle". Just trying to impart a little common sense to help you live a little longer.

[Jeepnoy]

An accident is an accident, whatever the cause and whoever is to blame.

I would rather be alive and in one piece.

Automotive safety goes beyond the seat belt. If the vehicle itself that you are riding in is not safe, the seatbelt will not save you.

Not trying to discourage you from going for your "dream vehicle". Just trying to impart a little common sense to help you live a little longer.

thanks for your advise, so your like telling me that locally produce/assembled vehicles are safe less and lack quality?

[ghosthunter]

thanks for your advise, so your like telling me that locally produce/assembled vehicles are safe less and lack quality?

Just saying that for the same money spent, a real proper car will be at least safer. That doesn't mention other things like comfort, security, etc.

[akosidom]

patronize locally made automobile, kaya pagnabuo ko project ko post ko dito, dapat talaga hindi na pinirmahan ng Pres. Ramos yung agreement sa WTO!

[akosidom]

clear statement :


*Jeepnoy ako din gusto ko nung mga locally made, pagnabuo ko project ko na Owner Type Jeep post ko dito!

* to all peace on earth!

[roninblade]

thanks for your advise, so your like telling me that locally produce/assembled vehicles are safe less and lack quality?

one question, meron ba research na ginawa sa mga locally assembled vehicles (like what you're trying to do) for all sorts of crashes? from what you're saying, the seatbelt is the only safety feature. what if you roll over? get hit from the side? do you know the strength of the materials of the components you'll be using? where the stress points will be if you get hit? this from thinking about it while reading this thread. you have to give this some more thought instead of just saying 'as long as I am "Happy" and riding my own wheels.'

i go by the saying, "i'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it" when it comes to safety. with that sentiment, i won't be buying any locally assembled vehicle any time soon where the only plan is to get it running properly on the road, make it look good, and strap a seatbelt on it as an afterthought.

but, i guess a dream is a dream so i understand if you're willing to trade safety, comfort, and public opinion for it. in that spirit, i say go ahead and build your dream; just build it properly para di naman hazard on the roads and the environment.

[Jeepnoy]

one question, meron ba research na ginawa sa mga locally assembled vehicles (like what you're trying to do) for all sorts of crashes? from what you're saying, the seatbelt is the only safety feature. what if you roll over? get hit from the side? do you know the strength of the materials of the components you'll be using? where the stress points will be if you get hit? this from thinking about it while reading this thread. you have to give this some more thought instead of just saying 'as long as I am "Happy" and riding my own wheels.'

i go by the saying, "i'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it" when it comes to safety. with that sentiment, i won't be buying any locally assembled vehicle any time soon where the only plan is to get it running properly on the road, make it look good, and strap a seatbelt on it as an afterthought.

but, i guess a dream is a dream so i understand if you're willing to trade safety, comfort, and public opinion for it. in that spirit, i say go ahead and build your dream; just build it properly para di naman hazard on the roads and the environment.

Id never say its because of the seatbelt itself, I provided different points and events that lead to accidents. Anyway I dont think accidents when Im driving I know God will bless my Trip!
I guess I'm one of those few people who never lose hope and still believe the Filipino can create and develop a vehicle that can be proud of.

I have my car too, but its only one project that I wanted to build.

[renzo_d10]

Id never say its because of the seatbelt itself, I provided different points and events that lead to accidents. Anyway I dont think accidents when Im driving I know God will bless my Trip!
I guess I'm one of those few people who never lose hope and still believe the Filipino can create and develop a vehicle that can be proud of.

I have my car too, but its only one project that I wanted to build.

As much as I I would want to believe the filipino products, but as of now I really couldn't.

Especially on cars, heck ... I won't risk me and my family's safety in riding one.

Lets say you'll be spending 150k for that project, then why not buy a 2nd hand car instead ?

[Monseratto]

Building a OTJ in the backyard, most sensible person will wonder what's the logic of building one. Maybe it's like the yearning of the poor in the latest in Pinoy "ingenuity", otherwise called kuliglig. They can be described using every negative adjective in any dictionary, but some people still want one.

[ghosthunter]

Point to ponder:

Honestly what is so "pinoy" about the jeep?

It is as "filipino" as a hamburger, french fries and a glass of Coke.

[ghosthunter]

Id never say its because of the seatbelt itself, I provided different points and events that lead to accidents.

And it seems that you think you can control when, where and how an accident will occur.

Anyway I dont think accidents when Im driving I know God will bless my Trip!

That is the attitude that gets people into trouble when trouble happens. "God will provide" or "bahala na si Lord".

So what happened to those other poor souls who died in a car accident? God didn't bless them enough?

You don't have to think of accidents because it is an "accident". But a few precautions can result in more lives saved from harm. That might include a car with proper safety designs, including crumple zones, safety zones, properly designed safety belts, safety glass, etc.

I guess I'm one of those few people who never lose hope and still believe the Filipino can create and develop a vehicle that can be proud of.

In the last 60 years since world war two, you still think there would be any development?

Frankly you might be 30 or 40 years too late on this point.

[roninblade]

create and develop a vehicle we can be proud of? why not step away from the jeep altogether and develop an original design with better features than the jeep?

your comments on accidents makes me think you shouldn't be driving on any self-assembled vehicle at all. how do you know God will bless your trip? gave you His own personal assurance? so lahat ng na-aksidente hindi na-bless properly? what do you have that they don't? that's an idiotic statement to give in a discussion about safety features in a vehicle. just stick to your car and spare us all from your dream.

[Jeepnoy]

your comments on accidents makes me think you shouldn't be driving on any self-assembled vehicle at all. how do you know God will bless your trip? gave you His own personal assurance? so lahat ng na-aksidente hindi na-bless properly? what do you have that they don't? that's an idiotic statement to give in a discussion about safety features in a vehicle. just stick to your car and spare us all from your dream.

Well thats called Faith. I dont need to explain it to you because you know nothing about it.

Just like I said I will invest money for this car, tingin nyo maglalagay ako ng tali ng barko para gawin kung seatbelt. Hays, Sinayang ko pa pera ko, Ill make sure na maganda pagkakaasemble ng vehicle, properly align at pinong pino ang pagkakagawa. Sino ba ang baliw na gagastos ng pera para mamatay at maaksidente sa daan.

[roninblade]

Well thats called Faith. I dont need to explain it to you because you know nothing about it.

and you are the authority on faith? all hail the jeepnoy saint then eh? di ba the christian way would be to explain what faith is to people who know nothing about it? and how do you know i know nothing about it? do you know me? do you know my affiliation or religious denomination?

Sino ba ang baliw na gagastos ng pera para mamatay at maaksidente sa daan.

apparently you are one. ;)

[akosidom]

Please guys! peace among you!

[uls]

Well thats called Faith. I dont need to explain it to you because you know nothing about it.

Just like I said I will invest money for this car, tingin nyo maglalagay ako ng tali ng barko para gawin kung seatbelt. Hays, Sinayang ko pa pera ko, Ill make sure na maganda pagkakaasemble ng vehicle, properly align at pinong pino ang pagkakagawa. Sino ba ang baliw na gagastos ng pera para mamatay at maaksidente sa daan.

i will i will

enough talk

talk is cheap

start your project

post pics

[yohc]

ganda!

Kapag na-flat ang likod na gulong. Paano ito i-jack?