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    #121
    Even Subaru's beefed up chain-driven CVT, that was introduced to require no maintenance, couldn't hold up to their claim. Failure symptoms & complaints here...
    Questionable Reliability in Lineartronic CVTs | Subaru Complaints


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    #122
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    i lost track. lets just say most toyota dealers had at least one. that's a low minimum of 40...

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    Even if the number is closer to 200...

    200 / the number of fortuners and hiluxes sold in 2017 ~45000...

    Plus the ones in 2016.

    That's about or under 0.4% failure rate. Not terrible.
    Last edited by mda; March 26th, 2018 at 06:37 PM.

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    #123
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Even Subaru's beefed up chain-driven CVT, that was introduced to require no maintenance, couldn't hold up to their claim. Failure symptoms & complaints here...
    Questionable Reliability in Lineartronic CVTs | Subaru Complaints


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    Sounds like torque converter issues.

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    #124
    natakot naman ako sa post ni sir ..Lester asanza.. kakabili ko palang 2nd hand honda city 2014 cvt na out of waranty

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    #125
    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Wag ganuun hahaha


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    Just a quick update sa post ko:

    1. We just received a call from the warranty supervisor ng casa and they said na humihingi pa daw ng supporting document yung honda sta. ROSa plant. The warranty sup. Even asked as kung talaga daw ba na galing sa kotse yung metal pieces (wth��)
    2. We are still waiting until tuesday kung maapprove. Kung hindi we will find other means para kumalat to. Pasensyahan na lang kami pero kung di pala reliable ang cvt transmission nila might as well malaman na ng ibang owners para maging aware na sila.

    Will continue to update this thread. Please please if may nakaencounter na neto sa inyo please send us a message.

    THank you!

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    #126
    Hmm. May mga metal particles ka pa ba na natabi dyan. Perhaps, a simple metallurgy analysis will prove na galing sya sa loob ng transmission.

    Next step fb?

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    #127
    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Hmm. May mga metal particles ka pa ba na natabi dyan. Perhaps, a simple metallurgy analysis will prove na galing sya sa loob ng transmission.

    Next step fb?

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    Yes, we still have po. We also have pictures nung una pa lang showing na nasa casa pa lang ang kotse andun na yung metal pieces. I mean di na dapat nila kailangan ng metallurgy analysis. They should know na galing yung sa loob ng transmission dahil sila mismo ang nagdrain ng fluid. So frustrating na ganyan sila magpalakad. I am sure that they know the issue tinatantsya lang nila kami kung papalakihin ba namin yung issue o magbabayad na lang kami ng 350k pra palitan transmission. No way that will happen. Will be sending an email sa honda by tuesday pag walang action then probably ask media’s help then kung kaya ipa tulfo gagawin namin. Tutal nasira na name nila sa tulfo last year may nagreklamo na sknla.

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    #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Lester asanza View Post
    Yes, we still have po. We also have pictures nung una pa lang showing na nasa casa pa lang ang kotse andun na yung metal pieces. I mean di na dapat nila kailangan ng metallurgy analysis. They should know na galing yung sa loob ng transmission dahil sila mismo ang nagdrain ng fluid. So frustrating na ganyan sila magpalakad. I am sure that they know the issue tinatantsya lang nila kami kung papalakihin ba namin yung issue o magbabayad na lang kami ng 350k pra palitan transmission. No way that will happen. Will be sending an email sa honda by tuesday pag walang action then probably ask media’s help then kung kaya ipa tulfo gagawin namin. Tutal nasira na name nila sa tulfo last year may nagreklamo na sknla.
    Dealer pa lang ba kausap mo?

    How about HCPI? May communication ka na with them?


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    #129
    Infuriating, yes. Lalo na bago bago pa sasakyan.

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    #130
    Nung nag PM ako dun sa dalawang SA ng Honda SPA parang ayaw mag disclose ng information.

    I asked ilan cases na yung pinitan ng transmission assembly (CVT) for City / Jazz

    - konti pa lang

    Ano cause bakit nasisira?

    - hindi rin nasabi ng planta ano ang cause.


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    #131
    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Nung nag PM ako dun sa dalawang SA ng Honda SPA parang ayaw mag disclose ng information.

    I asked ilan cases na yung pinitan ng transmission assembly (CVT) for City / Jazz

    - konti pa lang

    Ano cause bakit nasisira?

    - hindi rin nasabi ng planta ano ang cause.


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    "konti pa lang! !!
    to me, that is already a loud shout of admission.
    because... if the product is good, there shouldn't be any!
    the transmission box is one of the most abused components of the car. within reason, there is no such thing as an "over-engineered" trans box.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 30th, 2018 at 05:43 PM.

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    #132
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    "konti pa lang! !!
    to me, that is already a loud shout.
    because... if the product is good, there shouldn't be any!
    20 out of more 50,000+ on philippine roads is knonte..

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    Last edited by StockEngine; March 30th, 2018 at 05:59 PM.

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    #133
    May common batch kaya? Manufacturing error?

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    #134
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    20 out of more 500,000+ on philippine roads is knonte..

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    they sold half a million citys and jazzes with same-model-type cvt (not at) in the philippines?
    Last edited by dr. d; March 30th, 2018 at 05:49 PM.

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    #135
    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    May common batch kaya? Manufacturing error?

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    feel ko, "bad batch" or "bad batch of part, from supplier".
    kung "bad design", mas marami pa siguro.

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    #136
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    they sold half a million citys and jazzes with same-model-type cvt (not at) in the philippines?
    50k lng lol. not 500k

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    #137
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    50k lng lol. not 500k

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    noted, sir.

    isn't the 2003 cvt the "notorious one" ?
    i suppose the current cvt is already a much-improved model.
    and yes, 20/50,000 is only 0.04 %.
    but as this is the descendent of the 2003, and bad rep is not an easy thing to live down...

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    #138
    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Dealer pa lang ba kausap mo?

    How about HCPI? May communication ka na with them?


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    Yes, dealer pa lang. By tuesday pa malalaman if approved after nung hinihingi nila na documentation.

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    #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Lester asanza View Post
    Just a quick update sa post ko:

    1. We just received a call from the warranty supervisor ng casa and they said na humihingi pa daw ng supporting document yung honda sta. ROSa plant. The warranty sup. Even asked as kung talaga daw ba na galing sa kotse yung metal pieces (wth��)
    2. We are still waiting until tuesday kung maapprove. Kung hindi we will find other means para kumalat to. Pasensyahan na lang kami pero kung di pala reliable ang cvt transmission nila might as well malaman na ng ibang owners para maging aware na sila.

    Will continue to update this thread. Please please if may nakaencounter na neto sa inyo please send us a message.

    THank you!
    ikaw kasi!
    hindi mo sinunod yung apelyido mo!
    heh heh.

    many years ago, an acquaintance's brand new vanzy caught fire in the expressway.
    aba! binisita yung sasakyan ng japanese engineers nila!
    this is something i should have expected honda to have done, in your instance.
    unless! alam na nila ang prublema...
    Last edited by dr. d; March 30th, 2018 at 06:24 PM.

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    #140
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    noted, sir.

    isn't the 2003 cvt the "notorious one" ?
    i suppose the current cvt is already a much-improved model.
    and yes, 20/50,000 is only 0.04 %.
    but as this is the descendent of the 2003, and bad rep is not an easy thing to live down...
    50k is the new gen cvt... yun luma kokonti lng...

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