auto shops, how honest are they

[exzhoray]

[SIZE=3]DEAR TSIKOT PEEPS AND EXPERTS,[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]HELP NAMAN PO AKO, MY CAR IS A HONDA CIVIC VTI ’96 OR ’98. SINCE I DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MAINTENANCE, I DIDN’T KNOW THAT MY CAR ALREADY NEEDED SOME MAJOR REPAIRS... I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK FOR THE PRICES OF THE FOLLOWING UNDERCHASSIS PARTS, SINCE MOST OF THE PROBLEMS IDENTIFIED BY AN AUTOMOTIVE SHOP,(IN WHICH BY THE WAY GAVE ME A FREE ESTIMATE) I’VE CONSULTED ARE MOSTLY LOCATED THERE. THOUGH IM CONVINCED TO WHAT THE DAMAGES THEY HAVE SHOWN THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERS ME WAS THEIR PRICING. I HAVE GOT A GUT FFELING THAT THESE GUYS ARE TRYING TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY JUST BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE MAINTENANCE AND THE LIKE… ONE THING CAME TO MY MIND… HOW HONEST ARE THESE GUYS? WHEN IT COMES TO PRICING… ANYWAYS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK YOU FELLOW TSIKOTEERS OF THESE UNDERCHASIS PARTS I WOULD ENUMERATE, [/SIZE]PLEASE ALSO WRITE YOUR ESTIMATED PRICE OF THE IDENTIFIED PART (S) ON THE 3RD COLUMN
[SIZE=3]PLEASE. AYAW KO LNG KASING MAGOYO AT ‘MATAGA’.. THANKS HOPE YOU COULD HELP ME..[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]PART (S)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]PRICE OF SHOP(IN PESO)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]ESTIMATE OF FELLOW TSIKOTEERS[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]RACK END (PAIR)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2,350 / 4,700 (PAIR)[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]TIE ROD END, PAIR[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1,950/ 3,900(PAIR)[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]STEERING BOOT, PAIR[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]750/1,500 (PAIR)[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]PRESS JOB[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1,000[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]UPPER BALL JOINT, PAIR[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1,950/ 3900 (PAIR)[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]TRAILING ARM BUSHING, PAIR[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1,350/ 2,700 (PAIR)[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]STABILIZER LINK, PAIR[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1, 250/ 2,500[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]WHEEL ALIGNMENT[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1, 200/ 2,400[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]FRONT SHOCK ABSORBER , PAIR[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2,600/5,200[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]REAR SHOCKS, PAIR[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2,650/5,300[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]ENGINE SUPPORT [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2,450[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]NOTE: ASK KO N RIN PO KUNG SAAN MAKAKABILI NG GANITONG MURANG PARTS YET WITH QUALITY, BALAK KO KASI AKO N LNG BIBILI TPOS KOKONTRATA NA LANG NG MEKANIKO..[/SIZE]

[jedi]

sir... avoid using all CAPS po when posting... using it means you are shouting... anyway i hope our fellow tsikoteers can help you with your problem

[impulzz]

ALL CAPS!!! sakit sa mata ng post mo pre. pero try mo ask my friend gilbert(banaweonline) he might be able to help you.

[exzhoray]

pasensya na po... newbie... uhmm mga sirs pwede po bang pakitignan kung overpricing ung shop na pinuntahan ko.. d naman ako nagbanggit ng name eh =) tnx

[exzhoray]

Ask ko lang mga sirs kung overpricing ba ung pirce (s) mentioned above thanks again....

[BoEinG_747]

saan ba place ninyo ?
baka pwedde nyo doon muna pa estimate sa Cruven or Zee
(dami tsikoteers doon nag papagawa na )
ang mga dapat gawin sa underchassis ninyo
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...ghlight=cruven

[wildthing]

Generally mahal ang honda parts kung original at kung bibilhin mo sa repair shop. So yung price mo hindi naman overkill - parang sa casa ka nagpagawa.

Sa nakita ko na list, the best way to a decent comparison is ipa-quote mo muna sa CASA. Get their breakdown of parts (usually with price naman) and labor fee.

Kung hindi mo kaya talaga sa budget, unahin mo ang kaya at importante.

In my opinion, the tie rod end, upper ball joint ang importante kung talagang sira na.

Yung steering boot, protection lang ito...kung hindi pa sira at butas, pedeng hindi palitan.

Yung bushing ng trailing arm (mahal masyado ang estimate yata nito), usually makaldag ang sasakyan so kung tolerable, pedeng mo papalitan next time.

After palitan, alignment is important.

Yung dampers (shocks) kung hindi naman nag-roll-roll sa cornering, pede mo pang pag-tiyagaan yan....as long as wala pang tagas ng langis. Hindi ka naman siguro nagkakarga ng marami? Pero kung parating nag-bobottom out na ang dampers mo kahit kaunti humps o lubak...no choice ka but to replace them.

I was wondering bakit merun engine support....sobra ba ang vibration ng makina ng oto mo? as in nag-sheshake na ba? Kung hindi pa, ipa huli mo na rin yun.

Base sa description ng trabaho sa oto mo - dapat yung oto mo ay maingay, nagsheshake on idling, makalampag when running along edsa, nagbobottom-out (thud sound) sa humps na maliit o lubak na mababaw, pag napahard corner o liko ka pakiramdam mo ay tataob o out of control yung oto mo....o sa simple words para kang sumakay sa isang 10 year old taxi ng hindi properly maintained.

[1D4LV]

cruvenize na yan. definitely mas bababa ang cost compared to those you've stated.

[userfriendly]

Bring it to Cruven. Had my dads expedition fixed there for front suspension problems. Quote from another shop was 30K sa Cruven less than 8k. May warranty pa. Had to bring it back for backjob after a week but they fixed it with no hassels. They said that the cars weight caused it to go out of alignment. They fixed it.

[FrankDrebin]

Re-post natin.


Dear tsikot peeps and experts,

Help naman po ako, my car is a honda civic vti ’96 or ’98. Since i don’t know anything about maintenance, i didn’t know that my car already needed some major repairs... I would just like to ask for the prices of the following underchassis parts, since most of the problems identified by an automotive shop,(in which by the way gave me a free estimate) i’ve consulted are mostly located there. Though im convinced to what the damages they have shown the only thing that bothers me was their pricing. I have got a gut ffeling that these guys are trying to take the opportunity just because i don’t know anything about automotive maintenance and the like… one thing came to my mind… how honest are these guys? When it comes to pricing… anyways i would just like to ask you fellow tsikoteers of these underchasis parts i would enumerate, please also write your estimated price of the identified part (s) on the 3rd column
please. Ayaw ko lng kasing magoyo at ‘mataga’.. Thanks hope you could help me..

Part (s)
price of shop(in peso)
estimate of fellow tsikoteers
rack end (pair)
2,350 / 4,700 (pair)

Tie rod end, pair
1,950/ 3,900(pair)

Steering boot, pair
750/1,500 (pair)

Press job
1,000

Upper ball joint, pair
1,950/ 3900 (pair)

Trailing arm bushing, pair
1,350/ 2,700 (pair)

Stabilizer link, pair
1, 250/ 2,500

Wheel alignment
1, 200/ 2,400

Front shock absorber , pair
2,600/5,200

Rear shocks, pair
2,650/5,300

Engine support
2,450



Note: ask ko n rin po kung saan makakabili ng ganitong murang parts yet with quality, balak ko kasi ako n lng bibili tpos kokontrata na lang ng mekaniko..

[wavecxs]

na quick read ko lang post. typical sira lang tong mga to ng ~10year old (almost) daily driven car.

Si Cruven lang talaga makakatulong sayo. Had 2 cars serviced by them (corolla and civic both '95s)...galing talaga at friendly ang service...punta na!

*hindi po ako dun work.. satisfied customer lang.

[raine]

Or try ZEE, kasi yung 96 Vti doon ko pina gawa, at kung kailangan mo ng parts malapit lang sa banawe ,1 ride lang from araneta ave. baba ka sa e. rodriguez lakad ng kaunti banawe na, sa pag canvass ko ng parts for Honda masmura sa HCP banawe. meron silang OEM or replacement,

[blink21me]

May iba ka bang mga kaibigan or kakilalang may pinagpapagawan ng kotse nila regualrly? Try to get a referral, find people who will vouch for a shop who might less likely to rip you off... mahirap magka peace of mind kapag basta ka na lang magpapagawa sa isang shop na wala kang idea kung anong klase ng reputation meron yung mga yon...

[userfriendly]

Ask na rin ako. Dinala ko auto ko sa Servitek for alignment. Sabi nila sira daw suspension arm bushing. Assembly daw and will cost 24K. Dinala ko sa Cruven for 2nd opinion. They said its ok but the tie rod and rack ends need repair by injection, about 3700.

My dilema is Servitek never mentioned anything wrong with the tie rods and rack ends. Also I don't feel or hear anything wrong with the car.

So I don't know if there is really something wrong with the suspension or not. Should I get a 3rd opinon or don't worry about it as I don't hear anything wrong? last if there are indeed problems with the tie rods and rack ends, what will happen if I don't replace them?

[OTEP]

When in doubt, check it yourself.

Try doing a road test.

Minsan naman kasi cosmetic lang yung damage or within tolerance of wear and tear.

[MAXBUWAYA]

Ask ko lang mga sirs kung overpricing ba ung pirce (s) mentioned above thanks again....

Just had my Wifes GSR replace the tie rod end and tie rod bar

Mga 2000 fot pair plus labor around 3k inabot

Result= Matagtag pa din ARGH!
Pag dating sa tagtag problems karamihan yata sa mga mekaniko nanghuhula!!!!!!

[userfriendly]

When in doubt, check it yourself.

Try doing a road test.

Minsan naman kasi cosmetic lang yung damage or within tolerance of wear and tear.

How do you tell if its within tolerance? I saw that there is a little play but I have no idea if its within accepatble range or not.

[OTEP]

After a visual, I usually do a test drive. Kung hindi naman nag-iba ang drive characteristics and walang strange noises, ok na yun sa akin. Kung medyo duda pa din, hiram ng similar vehicle na alam kong nasa kundisyon. For most suspension parts, the worst that can happen when they fail is make noises or become obviously felt while driving. Hindi naman basta mapupunit iyan sa sasakyan.

[userfriendly]

Thnks OTEP. I'll just leave them as is. If it aint broke don't fix it.

[speedyfix]

busted tie rods and rack ends will make lots of noise.