Motorcycle Myths & Misconceptions

[roberto_minosa]

iba sa mga nagmomotor, nakabilad sa araw o lublub ang paa sa baha. nakakangawit pag matagal at pag responsible magsuot ng riding gears, jacket o kapote, pag nakahinto ng matagal, pagpapawisan ka pa.

mas madali intindihin ang both sides pag naranasan mo na pareho.

That's a pathetic excuse to put pedestrians in danger. I ride too but I'm not stupid enough to run over someone trying to get off a vehicle.

[Sriver]

That's a pathetic excuse to put pedestrians in danger. I ride too but I'm not stupid enough to run over someone trying to get off a vehicle.

It'll only be pathetic if you do it recklessly.
bat mo naman gagawin yun kung walang bangketa at malapit ka sa pedxing dba.

against din ako sa mga nagoovertake sa kanan, mas mahirap mapansin kumpara sa kaliwa.

[Djerms]

isipin mo yung comfort pag nsa loob tayo ng sasakyan,
di directly affected ng weather, controlled temperature.
comfortable upuan, pwede pa ihiga slightly pag di umaandar ang traffic.
Manood ng tv/dvd kung meron kang ganitong accessory.

iba sa mga nagmomotor, nakabilad sa araw o lublub ang paa sa baha.
nakakangawit pag matagal at pag responsible magsuot ng riding gears, jacket o kapote, pag nakahinto ng matagal, pagpapawisan ka pa.

mas madali intindihin ang both sides pag naranasan mo na pareho.

Friendly reminder: Avoid typing in all caps, which is considered to be the equivalent of shouting or yelling.
Di na kelangan, may nagrereact/sumasagot naman eh.

Forgive me but that doesn't give the moto riders any right not to follow traffic rules.

However, yes, I try to understand the situation since my uncle also rides a scooter daily (but he drives it safe and slow...pwede naman eh)

[Djerms]

I think what most moto riders lack here is education. Most Philippine motorists ride cars since way back and its just recently that motorcycles became popular. Dapat talaga alam ang traffic and road rules.

Yesterday lang may nakaaway ako nagmomotor coz he used the bicycle lane to get past me while I turn right. Sa inis ko talagang pininahan ko. Binabaan ko. Sabi niya tumabi na nga daw siya. I shouted at him telling him that he is in a bicycle lane and the right lane is not used for overtaking....

Agree that the chance of getting injured riding a 2 wheeler is greater than the chance of being hurt in a 4 wheeler. That's why education and info campaign is very important...

[Sriver]

Forgive me but that doesn't give the moto riders any right not to follow traffic rules.

However, yes, I try to understand the situation since my uncle also rides a scooter daily (but he drives it safe and slow...pwede naman eh)

I agree, yung observation sa comfort should not be use
as an excuse to disregard traffic rules and safety.

[Wh1stl3r]

Madalas mangyari sa akin ito, lalo na sa Metro Manila. In moderate traffic on a two way street I'm cruising at around 30-40Kph when I notice a deep pothole. Vehicles to my left are approaching from the opposite direction. A quick glance at my mirrors tells me a motorcycle is approaching from the right, so swerving to avoid it is out of the question. I can't brake abruptly, because if I do, I might get rear-ended by the tailgating car behind me. No choice but to run over the pothole, braking as hard as I can without brake testing the car behind me.

The result is always broken bearings and leaking shock absorbers. I'm not mad or anything, its just frustrating that this happens to me all the time

[afrasay]

I think what most moto riders lack here is education. Most Philippine motorists ride cars since way back and its just recently that motorcycles became popular. Dapat talaga alam ang traffic and road rules.

Yesterday lang may nakaaway ako nagmomotor coz he used the bicycle lane to get past me while I turn right. Sa inis ko talagang pininahan ko. Binabaan ko. Sabi niya tumabi na nga daw siya. I shouted at him telling him that he is in a bicycle lane and the right lane is not used for overtaking....

Agree that the chance of getting injured riding a 2 wheeler is greater than the chance of being hurt in a 4 wheeler. That's why education and info campaign is very important...

Cool ka lang Bro, magiging Daddy ka pa naman...hehehehe

[Djerms]

OT: Hehehe. cool lang, pero minsan ang hirap talaga eh. Hehehe. Di na applicable sa atin ang count 1-10 kasi...hehe.

[moejun2]

the windshield washer/sprinkler is not a mod, it serves a specific purpose. now if the alignment goes bad, then it has to be corrected. but this example is a very poor one.

the thing that irks me the most is the way a lot of bikers drive. it's as if there's no tomorrow. they endanger not only themselves but also those around them.

[alwayz_yummy]

kapag new:

COMMON UNDER-BONES/SCOOTERS, motorcycle-- P2500 lang ang all-in down, less than 5000/mo at 60 months cedula, barangay clearance at proof of income lang kailangan...

car/vehicle - 20% minimum down(roughly 100,000+ charges-lto,chattel,compre).. pinakamurang nakita ko is the 20,000 promo down ng kia rio way back a year ago...

ano mas madaling i-aquire in common-juan, even the "ogags" of the society

pag used: motorcycle parin mura i-aquire!

pero eto parin kinaiinis ko:

ANO BA MAWAWALA SA INYONG MGA RIDERS NA HUMINTO NG SANDALI KAYSA BIGLANG LILIKO AT OOVERTAKE SA KANAN O DI KAYA MAGPA-PAGEWANG GEWANG AT SAKUPIN LAHAT NG LANES NG KALSADA! AT BAKIT BA KAILANGAN NYO I-MOD ANG MOTOR NYO NG SOBRAN INGAY, BASAG NAMAN ANG TUNOG AT KAILANGAN ANG TAMBUCHO NYO ITUTOK SA MUKHA NAMING MGA PEDESTRIAN!

PS: matagal na ako nagddrive, 15 years na, naranasan ko na halos lahat, pero eversince dumami ang motorcycle riders sa kalye, lalong humirap ang driving! ngayon palang sa thread na to, ipaliwanag nyo sa amin mga "cagers", mga "di nakakaintindi sa inyo" kung bakit nyu ba kailangan gawin mga yan....

sorry for these, nakakainis kasi.. i AM A VICTIM OF A RECKLESS RIDER, NA BUMUNGO NA SA AKIN, AKO PA DINEMANDA NG "RECKLESS IMPRUDENCE RESULTING TO DAMAGE TO PROPERTY"....KASI AS A CAGER, KASALANAN KO DAW!

[Pol-pol]

Madalas mangyari sa akin ito, lalo na sa Metro Manila. In moderate traffic on a two way street I'm cruising at around 30-40Kph when I notice a deep pothole. Vehicles to my left are approaching from the opposite direction. A quick glance at my mirrors tells me a motorcycle is approaching from the right, so swerving to avoid it is out of the question. I can't brake abruptly, because if I do, I might get rear-ended by the tailgating car behind me. No choice but to run over the pothole, braking as hard as I can without brake testing the car behind me.

The result is always broken bearings and leaking shock absorbers. I'm not mad or anything, its just frustrating that this happens to me all the time

Sirs,

See there are two idiots here, the tail-gating cager and the rider trying to overtake by squeezing in on the wrong side (that is if there was only one lane). But if it were two lanes and the rider was on the right-side lane, that does not make the rider an idiot, and that leaves the idiot tailgater on a cage.

Well said po yung earlier post, its not the cager or the rider, its what they do that annoys. Noisy exhaust pipes and loud sound systems can be found both on bikes or to cars...

[s_quilicot]

Kahapon, may dalawang G*G*NG riders na walang helmet ang pinagisipan ko nang banggain sa sobrang G*G* magmaneho.

[Djerms]

^Wag mo bungguin. Pitikin mo lang. hehehe....

*pasensya na...can't help it.

[Sriver]

kapag new:

COMMON UNDER-BONES/SCOOTERS, motorcycle-- P2500 lang ang all-in down, less than 5000/mo at 60 months cedula, barangay clearance at proof of income lang kailangan...

car/vehicle - 20% minimum down(roughly 100,000+ charges-lto,chattel,compre).. pinakamurang nakita ko is the 20,000 promo down ng kia rio way back a year ago...

ano mas madaling i-aquire in common-juan, even the "ogags" of the society

pag used: motorcycle parin mura i-aquire!

pero eto parin kinaiinis ko:

ANO BA MAWAWALA SA INYONG MGA RIDERS NA HUMINTO NG SANDALI KAYSA BIGLANG LILIKO AT OOVERTAKE SA KANAN O DI KAYA MAGPA-PAGEWANG GEWANG AT SAKUPIN LAHAT NG LANES NG KALSADA! AT BAKIT BA KAILANGAN NYO I-MOD ANG MOTOR NYO NG SOBRAN INGAY, BASAG NAMAN ANG TUNOG AT KAILANGAN ANG TAMBUCHO NYO ITUTOK SA MUKHA NAMING MGA PEDESTRIAN!

PS: matagal na ako nagddrive, 15 years na, naranasan ko na halos lahat, pero eversince dumami ang motorcycle riders sa kalye, lalong humirap ang driving! ngayon palang sa thread na to, ipaliwanag nyo sa amin mga "cagers", mga "di nakakaintindi sa inyo" kung bakit nyu ba kailangan gawin mga yan....

sorry for these, nakakainis kasi.. i AM A VICTIM OF A RECKLESS RIDER, NA BUMUNGO NA SA AKIN, AKO PA DINEMANDA NG "RECKLESS IMPRUDENCE RESULTING TO DAMAGE TO PROPERTY"....KASI AS A CAGER, KASALANAN KO DAW!

yup, ganyan lang kadali magkaroon ng motor, murang mura lang.
madali din lang kumuha ng lisensya, sayang at hindi mahigpit dito.

kadalasan ng mga ogag dyan, uneducated, anu solusyon? EDUCATE them.
kaso problema yung ahensya na dapat makatulong walang pangil.
admit or deny, ang technique dito satin to educate, penalty ng violation.
Sana man lang kahit commercial sa tv tungkol sa safety driving/riding or rules.

mas marami ang mahirap kesa mayaman, mas abot kaya ang motor kesa tsikot.
taon-taon lalo pang dumadami ang populasyon nyan sa kalsada,
kung di susulusyonan ang kamangmangan, patuloy ang problema.
ang bagong riders na kakasimula palang at walang proper na kaalaman,
saan ba sila natututo, dba sa nakikita din nila at sa nagtuturo ng mali?

[BratPAQ]

mahal pa yang may down at monthly payment, meron ako nakikita, binenta, scooter, 6k lang, wala nang lisensya, basta drive kagad, tapos nung kapusin yung nakabili sa pera, binebenta ng 3k, syempre yung bibili kahit walang lisensya, kahit bisikleta lang alam patakbuhin, bibilin yun, at sya ang makakahalubilo mo sa daan. ano alam nila sa kalsada eh kahit lisensya wala? malay ba nilang ibig sabihin nung nagbiblink na light na yun sa kaliwa o kanan? malay ba nya sa mga rules sa kalsada?

dapat maiparating ito sa isang senator o congressman, na higpitan ang mga scooter na yan, magkaroon ng 1 day seminar sa mga kumukuha ng lisensya (cager o rider, ngayon kasi eh "reviewer" lang eh), di natin maikakaila na karamihan ng scooter na yan eh walang lisensya at di na educated sa tamang pagdadrive sa kalsada.

[roberto_minosa]

mahal pa yang may down at monthly payment, meron ako nakikita, binenta, scooter, 6k lang, wala nang lisensya, basta drive kagad, tapos nung kapusin yung nakabili sa pera, binebenta ng 3k, syempre yung bibili kahit walang lisensya, kahit bisikleta lang alam patakbuhin, bibilin yun, at sya ang makakahalubilo mo sa daan. ano alam nila sa kalsada eh kahit lisensya wala? malay ba nilang ibig sabihin nung nagbiblink na light na yun sa kaliwa o kanan? malay ba nya sa mga rules sa kalsada?

dapat maiparating ito sa isang senator o congressman, na higpitan ang mga scooter na yan, magkaroon ng 1 day seminar sa mga kumukuha ng lisensya (cager o rider, ngayon kasi eh "reviewer" lang eh), di natin maikakaila na karamihan ng scooter na yan eh walang lisensya at di na educated sa tamang pagdadrive sa kalsada.

Ganun yung mga scooter ko dati. Harabas. Pero hindi naman ako bobo magpatakbo...

[panthom_lord]

"Ang mali ay mananatiling mali kotse o motorsiklo man ang dala ng isang gumagamit ng kalsada."

Loud mufflers, improperly projected beam ng headlight, reckless driving, drunk driving and etc... both cagers and riders are guilty of these...

It is good that tsikoteers can share their ideas here and take up matters of common concern, and I believe that this topic about motorcycle riders should be taken seriously and cautiously without offending the riders who might read some sweeping statements uttered here.

There are several sites like this one for the riders and let us be aware of their perspective about cagers.

One sensible observation of the riders is when a cager stops and open his door without due precautions if there are incoming vehicles or pedestrians and unfortunately end up causing damage or injury...

Another is when a cager intentionally closes the bumper gaps during tight traffic situation to the detriment of the riders who may use such gaps to get past...

When I was still active in a rider club, aside from joining several races and out of town trips, our club endeavored to educate riders and share safe riding tips. Unfortunately, this effort cannot cover the entire motorcycle-riding public... I agree to what most of us here feels that there is indeed lack of education among the motorists in general.

Let me share my observation, the difference between a cager and a cager who is at the same time a rider is that the latter can anticipate what the rider intends to do... "is that rider going to overtake?", "is that rider going to yield?"

Last point mga sirs at madames, cagers, pedestrians or kahit kapwa rider badtrip sa pressure ng bike mufflers lalo na yung oversized. Feeling mo may bumubuga sa mukha mo at amoy gas pa... lalo na yung two-stroke dahil may kasamang usok at langis... But thats the way some bike mufflers are designed... i think we can do very little if not nothing about that but to avoid the direction of the exhaust...

[roberto_minosa]

Last point mga sirs at madames, cagers, pedestrians or kahit kapwa rider badtrip sa pressure ng bike mufflers lalo na yung oversized. Feeling mo may bumubuga sa mukha mo at amoy gas pa... lalo na yung two-stroke dahil may kasamang usok at langis... But thats the way some bike mufflers are designed... i think we can do very little if not nothing about that but to avoid the direction of the exhaust...

2-strokes don't produce the same amount of pressure on the exhaust as 4-strokes. And it's very rare that 2-strokes have an upwards-pointing pipe like the one on my old scooter.

[praetor91313]

Just this morning there was a jeepney in front of me which was letting some passengers get off so I signaled I was overtaking on my left. Bumusina yung motorcycle sa likod ko kahit one car away pa sya--- sige, pinauna ko na. Paglampas nya may bumusina ulit na motorcycle pero pinauna ko na din. Nung bumuwelo na ko para umovertake syempre humarurot na yung jeep.

Hay naku... napapaligiran na tayo ng mga walang utak na naghahari-harian sa kalsada.

[praetor91313]

Ito nga pala point ko: I was positioned more than a car away in front of the first motorcycle and I clearly signaled my intention to overtake pero ayaw nya, una daw sya.

Isn't it a traffic violation to overtake an overtaking vehicle?

I just always remind myself that it's better to drive defensively and avoid hassles. Wala naman pambayad mga yan pag tinamaan ka, tatakbuhan ka lang (this has happened to me at least twice before).