Ceramic coating

[TheUninvited]

Personally, I prefer extensive water sheeting than beading. Yes, beading looks cool to watch but the main purpose of coating is to quickly repel water as much as possible to avoid watermarks and facilitate touch less drying. If water sheets quickly then I am assured that the coating is serving its main purpose of repelling water.

Did TD conduct a "before" and "after" paint thickness measurement on random areas of your panels for your reference? If so, you can point out the areas where the coating failed due to significant variance in paint + coating thickness when you bring your car to TD for inspection. I assume TD applied the consumer grade CQuartz UK ver 3.0 to your car.

Yup CQUK 3.0. He just mentioned na the hood is thinner than other panels.

[zechs]

*theuninvited,
How old na ung car mo?

[TheUninvited]

*theuninvited,
How old na ung car mo?

1 year nung dinala ko kay TD. From CASA ako lang nag lilinis niyan, first time mahawakan ng iba nung dinala ko kay TD hehe.

About sa hood na mas manipis ang clearcoat, tingin niya daw before release ni buff. Ayun hehe.

[shadow]

Scratch resistant na ba ang paint pag nagpa ceramic? Kahit Sadyain? If not I wouldn't spend that much money on it.




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[TheUninvited]

Scratch resistant na ba ang paint pag nagpa ceramic? Kahit Sadyain? If not I wouldn't spend that much money on it.




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Nope it isn't. But that's not the point of a ceramic coating, a wax or a sealant.

[zechs]

1 year nung dinala ko kay TD. From CASA ako lang nag lilinis niyan, first time mahawakan ng iba nung dinala ko kay TD hehe.

About sa hood na mas manipis ang clearcoat, tingin niya daw before release ni buff. Ayun hehe.

I see. Even so, I think thin clear/paint is not the reason why the coating is failing.

[zechs]

Still beads. One week no wash, rains in between. And now rained on again.

[Maria Salve]

I assume TD applied the consumer grade CQuartz UK ver 3.0 to your car.

Highly possible yan ang ginamit na ceramic coating ng Technical Details na hindi nila pinagtatapat sa customers nila. Dapat ang gamit nila yung professional version dahil installers sila and not DIYers.

[JEMANGALINDAN]

Still beads. One week no wash, rains in between. And now rained on again.

from TD yan sir zechs?


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[zechs]

Highly possible yan ang ginamit na ceramic coating ng Technical Details na hindi nila pinagtatapat sa customers nila. Dapat ang gamit nila yung professional version dahil installers sila and not DIYers.

Baka alam naman ng customers ng TD na cquk 3.0 ang inaaply nila. And dapat ba pag detailers, automatic professional line kaagad gamitin? I dont think thats the case. Price difference pa lang malayong malayo na. Choice ng customer yan kung anong pasok sa budget nila. Either way hindi naman issue kung anong cquartz ang ginamit eh. Ang gusto malaman is bakit nagkaganun ung coating. Probably a fluke or most probably its the insufficient time of curing

Si ATMT (carpro phils) ang may choice kung cquk or cquartz finest.

from TD yan sir zechs?
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Nope. Ni-DIY ko lang yan. McKee's 37 paint coating ginamit ko.

[Maria Salve]

most probably its the insufficient time of curing

Katulad nung isang kinausap ko na gumagawa din ng ceramic coating. I was told my car will be at their shop for 2 days minimum or 3 days maximum. They said if I cannot let them have the car for those number of days wag ko muna ipa-ceramic coating sa kanila. Curing time is the reason.

[chris45]

Highly possible yan ang ginamit na ceramic coating ng Technical Details na hindi nila pinagtatapat sa customers nila. Dapat ang gamit nila yung professional version dahil installers sila and not DIYers.

Reread page 20.

[TheUninvited]

OK - problem solved, same case with someone else here.

Namamask lang ng dirt/soap yung coating so akala ko wala na beading.

So all is good I guess. So having rained on after ~17 hours did not hurt the coating. It wasn't IR cured din.

[ironman06]

OK - problem solved, same case with someone else here.

Namamask lang ng dirt/soap yung coating so akala ko wala na beading.

So all is good I guess. So having rained on after ~17 hours did not hurt the coating. It wasn't IR cured din.

did it bead/sheet again like it's supposed to?

[StockEngine]

this proves 2 things!

1. Technical Details is still excellent
2. Downpayment Issues and Beading issues are not really issues lol.

[airborn65]

OK - problem solved, same case with someone else here.

Namamask lang ng dirt/soap yung coating so akala ko wala na beading.

So all is good I guess. So having rained on after ~17 hours did not hurt the coating. It wasn't IR cured din.

So what action/explanation did TD offered to solve your issues/concerns?

I was a bit puzzled with your concerns about water beading as you earlier mentioned that it was not beading even after washing and rinsing your car. Does it mean that you were not able to properly wash and rinse your car kaya may naiwan pang dirt & soap residue which caused masking and eventually led to your assumption that it is no longer beading?

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[zechs]

Same sentiments with airborn65. Medyo vague on how dirt/soap masks the coating. Is it only the first wash? Or everytime may dirt/may soap na natira sa surface?

And What brand of soap did you use? Does it rinse well after?

[StockEngine]

guess which detailer...


removing texture...

[TheUninvited]

So what action/explanation did TD offered to solve your issues/concerns?

I was a bit puzzled with your concerns about water beading as you earlier mentioned that it was not beading even after washing and rinsing your car. Does it mean that you were not able to properly wash and rinse your car kaya may naiwan pang dirt & soap residue which caused masking and eventually led to your assumption that it is no longer beading?

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Same sentiments with airborn65. Medyo vague on how dirt/soap masks the coating. Is it only the first wash? Or everytime may dirt/may soap na natira sa surface?

And What brand of soap did you use? Does it rinse well after?

did it bead/sheet again like it's supposed to?

I haven't reached out to him. I figured it out myself.

Did some testing:
1. Washed the car 2 bucket, rinsed the car using hose only - sheeting on dirt/mud prone areas.
2. Washed the car 2 bucket, rinsed the car using hose only and dried using waffle weave. - hosed the dirt/mud prone areas, beading was back. Probably may soap na natuyo or hindi totally na rinse by just hosing it down.

In conclusion dirt/soap of masks the coating or kahit wax/sealant.

Albeit beading is still there, it isn't so tight as day 1. Perhaps may contaminants na din and this is 6x a week driven for more than 50kms a day.

[chris45]

Recently had my car coated with TD. Naulanan na kaagad and tuloy tuloy pa hanggang ngayon haha. Lets see for a few days.