Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[Monseratto]

http://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-i...pc-untrue.html

Mitsubishi PH: reports of DTI filing charges against MMPC untrue
MMPC will comply with DTIs recommendations
posted December 17, 2015 18:25



Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corporation (MMPC) has been under the radar for the past month due to the Montero Sport's Sudden Unintended Acceleration (SUA) issue.

As a review, MMPC held a press conference last December 1, 2015 where the company said that the Montero Sport vehicles are “free from design and manufacturing defects that could cause sudden unintended acceleration (SUA).” MMPC also said during the press-con. that they are willing to support and cooperate with the Department of Trade and Industry's initiative to investigate the SUA issue.

With that in mind, MMPC released an official statement regarding DTI's recommendation to “hire an independent third party expert(s)” to investigate the issue at hand.

Below is the statement sent to us in full:

MMPC welcomes the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) recommendation to hire an independent third party expert(s) to perform all relevant tests and investigation on the Montero Sport. MMPC, DTI investigation panel, and Department of Science and Technology (DOST) will lay out within 30 days the terms and conditions for the conduct of investigation by such third party expert.

MMPC also welcomes the DTI recommendation to conduct the free inspection and mandatory preventive maintenance of all DTI identified SUA complainants’ vehicles and issue quality reassurance certification.

There was also a recommendation for MMPC to continue its free check-up campaign for all Montero Sport automatic owners and to provide the same certificate of quality reassurance for the purpose of providing peace of mind to its owners. MMPC will remind its current and new customers the proper operation of an automatic vehicle and other safety measures in starting and driving a vehicle.

We assure all Montero Sport owners that we remain committed to a transparent resolution of this alleged SUA issue and to provide safe and quality vehicles.

MMPC deeply regrets and sympathizes with its customers that have been affected by the alleged SUA issues. MMPC will continue to work with its customers to assure their safety.

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[anonemus]

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/indus...sport-sua-case

From this article:

"DTI's legal recommendations, meanwhile, are the following: (1) "endorsement of all 24 complaints to the*Fair Trade Enforcement Bureau" of the agency; and (2) "the filing of the necessary*Formal Charge*against concerned parties" should the aforementioned third-party investigation yield "reasonable grounds."

Bias talaga ang ABS-CBN

[Ry_Tower]

Hindi ko lang maintindihan kung bakit ginagawa ng ABS sa Mitsu to. Ibang iba lagi ang headline nila compared sa GMA, TV5 at CNN.

Misdirection.... Because Vernon Sarte told them that the video splicing of the white MS SUA incident with the pussycat traumatized - is not good. Yari daw sila. That is when they first aired the incident. The next day hindi na si Vernon guest speaker, iba na. It was from TGP nga pala. ABS-CBN did not confirm or deny him.

So inunahan na nila MMPC, baka magsampa pa kaso. Para iba na ang nakasalang kumbaga.

[glenn manikis]

150 na daw? Totoo ba? Or 115?

[chronicle]

Would the other car manufacturers be afraid of abs? With the way they twisted the news and all. Given foreign companies itong mga to, their reputation is getting tarnished here.

[zoomzoom]

Hindi ko lang maintindihan kung bakit ginagawa ng ABS sa Mitsu to. Ibang iba lagi ang headline nila compared sa GMA, TV5 at CNN.

Seems ABS has an axe to grind with MitsuPH. Sila lang bias, it seems.

[Syuryuken]

Seems ABS has an axe to grind with MitsuPH. Sila lang bias, it seems.

Baka may hiling ang ABS na hindi naibigay ng MMC

NissanPh ang di kayang galawin ng ABS.

[XploY]

Baka may hiling ang ABS na hindi naibigay ng MMC

NissanPh ang di kayang galawin ng ABS.

Napansin ko pag Montero ang issue, si Noli ang nag aanounce then si Dominic ang field report. Itong dalawang gong gong na to ay dapat ring imbestigahan. I wonder magkano kaya ang nalustay na pera ni Noli sa Pag-Ibig housing.

[cyplanr]

I'm with you there bro. That's why I said I was only leaning towards a vehicle fault IF there are really 90+ cases. Even if there is only one case it could go either way. It's equally hard to prove both sides. If I were MMPC I'd try to replicate the SUA incidents as driver error in a controlled test. If they can do it I bet most complainants will drop out. At the same time it doesn't hurt to check upstream and downstream of the ECU for something that might be changing the throttle position signal.

ito ang di ko maintindihan at bakit hindi maipakita ng MMPC. sabi rin ni Sir Niky di ma-replicate ang SUA, pero di ba kung human error dapat mas madali ulitin? mag video lang sila ng 10 units, apak ng todo sa accelerator at shift sa D or R, pakita lang nila ganun talaga mangyayari. they do crash tests regularly, siguro madali na ito para sa Mitsu.

[Sarsi]

Baka may hiling ang ABS na hindi naibigay ng MMC

NissanPh ang di kayang galawin ng ABS.

Actually, parang totoo kasi Mitsu brand lang ako walang nakikita sa fleet ng ABS.

Pinakamarami nila Nissan Urvan, Frontier, may latest navarra din. May commuter, ranger, kia din.

Ayaw magpalugi ni MMPC, kasi yun nissan, halos ex deal na talong talo si NMPI ang transaction, sabi nung barkada ko na nagta trabaho sa ABS

[cliford27]

Turuan si dominic ku g pano mag menor!siya lang naman ang humaharurot sa isyu ng SUA eh.sila ni kabayad noli bully

[markshoti]

Bakit kapag may naaksidente involving Montero e nakareport agad sa ABS kahit saang lupalop pa ng pinas? Tapos SUA agad ang dahilan kahit wala pang imbestigasyon na nangyayari. Sa tingin nyo ba sa isang araw Montero lng ang naaksidente sa buong bansa? Bakit yung ibang aksidente hindi nila nirereport? Bias talaga. Sinisira na talaga nila ang Mitsu.

[CVT]

Wala naman mapapala ang drivers kung SUA or accident ang kanilang e- declare... both is covered by INsurance...

Babayaran at babayaran pa din ng insurance yan SUA or human error... at yung driver naman magbabayad pa din ng participation fee...

Pride bro... The favorite "deadly sin"... 😁

"I cannot lose the last election; I was cheated"

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[markshoti]

Pride bro... The favorite "deadly sin"... 😁

"I cannot lose the last election; I was cheated"

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

24 na lang ang natirang complainant. Akala ko ba 100+ na sila? Natauhan na ata yung iba. Nilunok na lang yung pride nila. Alam nilang magmumukha lang silang tanga pag tinuloy pa nila ang reklamo.

[niky]

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/indus...sport-sua-case

For lulz, read Page 8 of the DTI report.

Where, apparently, according to the DTI expert engineer's theory, not only can outside air ENTER the intercooler through leaks in the intercooler, the moisture in the air will condense due to the intake charge pressure and then flash back into steam in the combustion chamber, causing a rapid increase of pressure inside the chamber, causing the ECU to inject more fuel.*

So... you have:

1. Air flowing from the atmosphere, which is at 1 bar pressure, into the intercooler, which is at 2.5 bar pressure.

2. Fuel injection air metering being done inside the combustion chamber, not at the MAF/MAP sensors like in every other car in existence.

Bravo. I think we've discovered perpetual motion. :hysterical:

Next time there's an investigation, can the DTI please hire someone who actually knows how cars work?








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*When water enters the combustion chamber, as it does when you use a water injection kit, the water flashing into steam cools down the charge air, making it denser. In effect, you are increasing charge density by reducing charge pressure. The engineer is probably thinking of a water kettle, where adding OUTSIDE heat increases system pressure. Which is the opposite of what's happening here. Here, he's adding outside COOLING to the system.

Of course, that would work if air could travel from a lower pressure area to a higher pressure area.

[timo07]

For lulz, read Page 8 of the DTI report.

Where, apparently, according to the DTI expert engineer's theory, not only can outside air ENTER the intercooler through leaks in the intercooler, the moisture in the air will condense due to the intake charge pressure and then flash back into steam in the combustion chamber, causing a rapid increase of pressure inside the chamber, causing the ECU to inject more fuel.*

So... you have:

1. Air flowing from the atmosphere, which is at 1 bar pressure, into the intercooler, which is at 2.5 bar pressure.

2. Fuel injection air metering being done inside the combustion chamber, not at the MAF/MAP sensors like in every other car in existence.

Bravo. I think we've discovered perpetual motion. :hysterical:

Next time there's an investigation, can the DTI please hire someone who actually knows how cars work?








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*When water enters the combustion chamber, as it does when you use a water injection kit, the water flashing into steam cools down the charge air, making it denser. In effect, you are increasing charge density by reducing charge pressure. The engineer is probably thinking of a water kettle, where adding OUTSIDE heat increases system pressure. Which is the opposite of what's happening here. Here, he's adding outside COOLING to the system.

Of course, that would work if air could travel from a lower pressure area to a higher pressure area.

This tells us how lame DTI people are. Can't even conduct a credible investigation🙄. Well, what can we expect.....

[XploY]

case closed na. si Noli De castro at Dominic Almelor ang tanungin natin. Lumalabas na alam nila lahat. Sila yung dapat i hire ng DTI as third party expert. Isali rin pati yung comunistang si colmenares. Baka hindi na ambonan ng revolutionary tax.

[kinyo]

meron na naman SUA?

sapul-sa-cctv-pagbulusok-ng-montero-sa-tutuban

[cast_no_shadow]

Walang mintis sa TV Patrol ah

Hmmmm did they try putting it on P pag nag SUA?

Mag wild pa din kaya engine?

[silver V]

wrong post