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  1. Join Date
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    #71
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    puede rin naman sa casa. you just have to to learn to say no to some items that are not in the owner's manual schedule. "next time na lang. wala sa budget, eh."
    Problema, doc, eh di na nila sinasabi na may "insertions".

    Sasabihin na lang total PMS bill is 7k ++.

    Naksingit na pala yung 1) Fushing and 2) injector cleaning.

    Nagtaka tuloy ako bakit ang taas ng presyo.

    At yun doon pa lang nila pinapakita na meron 2 extras.

    Sabi ko yung basic lang, paki alis na lang yung 2 extra.

    Ayun, 3k++ na lang.

    So lesson is be alert and mabusisi and knowledgeable about what is needed to be done to your vehicle, kasi tuso ng mga SA's di na nila sasabihin at papakita na may inserted services sila.

    Kung makakalusot nga naman, di ba?

    Back in the 90's unheard yan ganyang practice of inserting unnecessary services.

    Ngayon talamak na at pakapalan ng mukha.

    Parang mg tongressmen, inserting pork barrel in the budget, kahit bawal.

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    #72
    Ilang percent kaya ng cost ng insertions ang commission ng SA? And are they also being rated based on how much they sell of these add ons.

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    #73
    Pinapakita naman breakdown before gawin ah.


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    #74
    Quote Originally Posted by leonleon View Post
    Problema, doc, eh di na nila sinasabi na may "insertions".

    Sasabihin na lang total PMS bill is 7k ++.

    Naksingit na pala yung 1) Fushing and 2) injector cleaning.

    Nagtaka tuloy ako bakit ang taas ng presyo.

    At yun doon pa lang nila pinapakita na meron 2 extras.

    Sabi ko yung basic lang, paki alis na lang yung 2 extra.

    Ayun, 3k++ na lang.

    So lesson is be alert and mabusisi and knowledgeable about what is needed to be done to your vehicle, kasi tuso ng mga SA's di na nila sasabihin at papakita na may inserted services sila.

    Kung makakalusot nga naman, di ba?

    Back in the 90's unheard yan ganyang practice of inserting unnecessary services.

    Ngayon talamak na at pakapalan ng mukha.

    Parang mg tongressmen, inserting pork barrel in the budget, kahit bawal.
    Well Tama ka, last pms ko sa San Fernando Pampanga, sinabi ko SA na tanggalin mga optional. So akala ko tinanggal na. Lo and behold buti nalang tinignan ko mga gagawin, meron flushing at treatment na nakasingit. Sinabi ko na tanggalin. Palusot Ng SA buti nalang sinabi ko.

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    #75
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Pinapakita naman breakdown before gawin ah.


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    i consult my owner's manual, and list down what should be included in the xxx km pms.
    if an item in their proposed pms job list is not in that list, i decline with "next time na lang. wala sa budget, e".
    we should always look at that job list. insertions are not unique to congress.
    heh heh.

    common words that should grab our attention include: treatment, flushing, conditioner.

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    #76
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Pinapakita naman breakdown before gawin ah.


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    Kung hihingin mo, otherwise, sa billing na diretso nun. Naalala ko ung katabi ko, Honda City, sabi ng SA, 10k daw, Ang sagot nya, gano katagal daw at nagmamadali siya, pipilitin daw ni SA matapos agad, end of discussion. I guess, the company was paying for the maintenance, kaya walang pakialam si customer, or he is rich and doesn't care.

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    #77
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Kung hihingin mo, otherwise, sa billing na diretso nun. Naalala ko ung katabi ko, Honda City, sabi ng SA, 10k daw, Ang sagot nya, gano katagal daw at nagmamadali siya, pipilitin daw ni SA matapos agad, end of discussion. I guess, the company was paying for the maintenance, kaya walang pakialam si customer, or he is rich and doesn't care.
    pues, hingin nyo!
    in the casa pms i go to, they always show us the printed proposed job list, for written approval. but they do not elaborate if costumer does not ask.
    but i think the issue is, many of these folks do not know that many of those in the job list are optionals only and can be canceled. thus, they do not bother with perusing the list anymore, because "casa knows best".
    enlightenment comes afterward. the so-called "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me", when car owner chances to read the owner's manual in depth, or he accidentally tunes into tsikot.com...
    Last edited by dr. d; January 1st, 2020 at 10:10 AM.

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    #78
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    pues, hingin nyo!
    in the casa pms i go to, they always show us the printed proposed job list, for written approval. but they do not elaborate if costumer does not ask.
    but i think the issue is, many of these folks do not know that many of those in the job list are optionals only and can be canceled. thus, they do not bother with perusing the list anymore, because "casa knows best".
    enlightenment comes afterward. the so-called "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me", when car owner chances to read the owner's manual in depth, or he accidentally tunes into tsikot.com...
    Usually naman may quote diba? Kailangan lang tingnan yung items listed there... Yung iba na questionable, pwede namna itanong and ipa tanggal.

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    #79
    What's a good brand of spark plug and FS oil. Where can I buy? Also, where can I buy baldwin oil filter?

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    #80
    my one peso's worth,
    i don't FS.
    mineral only.
    replace every 5000 km, without fail.
    after over 14 years and 130,000 km, the engine still runs fine.

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