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    #1881
    Quote Originally Posted by gmotu View Post
    My Xpander is still in the casa after a week. Baka daw may dumating na parts bukas. Sabi ng service nila, basta may nagpa-PMS, pinapalitan na nila yung fuel pump, kaya daw sila naubusan ng parts. Hopefully pag nagre-release sila ng brand new units, bago na ang fuel pump.

    But I'm not sure if they're lying. I'm not sure if the fuel pump they'll put in my car is sure to be different. If they have solved the issue, why are they keeping silent and not proclaiming that the new units are okay na?
    they cannot announce naman kasi if walang permission from their r&d

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    #1882
    "t will work in the beginning when it has just recently shut off. But the brake pressure will slowly go away and you will lose braking power over time per application (which shouldn't be an issue as you have no engine, hence can't accelerate)."

    Mga sirs. . . D po mawawa ang preno pag patay ang makina. . . You just have to step on it harder. . . Anybody experienced driving their vehicle being towed tied on a rope?

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    #1883
    Quote Originally Posted by mcoy123 View Post
    "t will work in the beginning when it has just recently shut off. But the brake pressure will slowly go away and you will lose braking power over time per application (which shouldn't be an issue as you have no engine, hence can't accelerate)."

    Mga sirs. . . D po mawawa ang preno pag patay ang makina. . . You just have to step on it harder. . . Anybody experienced driving their vehicle being towed tied on a rope?
    Why doesn't a car's brake work when the engine is off? - Quora

    My mistake.

    I once encountered a situation after pumping the brakes before (with the engine off) after falling thru a drainage manhole and need help to be pushed out.

    In that situation, after I was helped out, there was no more braking power even with the brake pedal straight to the floor.

    After I started the car, had to pump the brake a few more times before pressure was restored.

    It was a 1999 Revo MT.

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    #1884
    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Why doesn't a car's brake work when the engine is off? - Quora

    My mistake.

    I once encountered a situation after pumping the brakes before (with the engine off) after falling thru a drainage manhole and need help to be pushed out.

    In that situation, after I was helped out, there was no more braking power even with the brake pedal straight to the floor.

    After I started the car, had to pump the brake a few more times before pressure was restored.

    It was a 1999 Revo MT.
    Imho, if the pedal went straight to the floor. . Then there's fluid leak or air in the system. . . Because. . . It should not happen. When you pumped the brakes when the engine was started, actually evem if you did not start the engine. You're just reintroducing brakefluid or not as effectively, air into the system. . But it will eventually fail again.

    Sorry wasn't able to view the link you posted

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    #1885
    Quote Originally Posted by mcoy123 View Post
    Imho, if the pedal went straight to the floor. . Then there's fluid leak or air in the system. . . Because. . . It should not happen. When you pumped the brakes when the engine was started, actually evem if you did not start the engine. You're just reintroducing brakefluid or not as effectively, air into the system. . But it will eventually fail again.

    Sorry wasn't able to view the link you posted
    No problem.

    I'm honestly not sure what happened exactly that time but the brake performed again after I pumped the brakes more in that exact moment. Happened about 10 years ago, car was 9 years old (more or less). =) Well, it's why I appreciate the discussion because people here do chime in.

    My own personal experience can only "go so far" so seeing the inputs helps me correct any misinformation (or lack thereof) I have.

    Thanks. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    No problem.

    I'm honestly not sure what happened exactly that time but the brake performed again after I pumped the brakes more in that exact moment. Happened about 10 years ago, car was 9 years old (more or less). =) Well, it's why I appreciate the discussion because people here do chime in.

    My own personal experience can only "go so far" so seeing the inputs helps me correct any misinformation I have.

    Thanks. =)
    No problemo sir, hope tama ang na-provide ko na info sa pagiging know it all kuno ko =)

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    #1887
    Just to update: I got my Xpander back from the casa with the new fuel pump. However, I talked to the service technician and they could not say for sure that the new fuel pump is different/improved over the old one. They look exactly alike.

    I just don't know and can't know if this will happen again. Mitsubishi's response to this problem is very worrying and it's safe to say I won't be be buying Mitsubishi ever again.

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    #1888
    Quote Originally Posted by gmotu View Post
    Just to update: I got my Xpander back from the casa with the new fuel pump. However, I talked to the service technician and they could not say for sure that the new fuel pump is different/improved over the old one. They look exactly alike.

    I just don't know and can't know if this will happen again. Mitsubishi's response to this problem is very worrying and it's safe to say I won't be be buying Mitsubishi ever again.
    This is also Mitshubishi's worry I bet for the meantime. The only remedy they have is to keep on replacing the defective fuel pumps and hoping that after the warranty period has expired, aftermarket fuel pumps will already be available in Banawe

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    #1889
    Quote Originally Posted by gmotu View Post
    Just to update: I got my Xpander back from the casa with the new fuel pump. However, I talked to the service technician and they could not say for sure that the new fuel pump is different/improved over the old one. They look exactly alike.

    I just don't know and can't know if this will happen again. Mitsubishi's response to this problem is very worrying and it's safe to say I won't be be buying Mitsubishi ever again.
    Ano fuel ang gamit? Baka maka tulong na iwasan muna ang Fuelsave as suggested earlier?

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    #1890
    Just out of curiosity, isn't the SUA issue with the earlier model Montero Sport also Fuel Pump related?

    Seems like Mitsu needs to find better parts manufacturers. Or is Da Pilipins being used as test market again?

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    #1891
    Quote Originally Posted by sparc179 View Post
    Just out of curiosity, isn't the SUA issue with the earlier model Montero Sport also Fuel Pump related?

    Seems like Mitsu needs to find better parts manufacturers. Or is Da Pilipins being used as test market again?
    One causing a sua, while the other one causing a stall?

    "Most peculiar, mama!"

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    #1892
    Quote Originally Posted by mcoy123 View Post
    No problemo sir, hope tama ang na-provide ko na info sa pagiging know it all kuno ko =)
    So bottomline, all of us drivers do not want our engines to die on us while driving.

    So this Xpander issue is indeed disturbing!

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    #1893
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    One causing a sua, while the other one causing a stall?

    "Most peculiar, mama!"
    Peculiar indeed, M'sieur.

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    #1894
    Quote Originally Posted by sparc179 View Post
    Just out of curiosity, isn't the SUA issue with the earlier model Montero Sport also Fuel Pump related?

    Seems like Mitsu needs to find better parts manufacturers. Or is Da Pilipins being used as test market again?
    from my personal opinion,
    the cause for that sua is the loose nut behind the wheel.

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    #1895
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    So bottomline, all of us drivers do not want our engines to die on us while driving.

    So this Xpander issue is indeed disturbing!
    but is it real?
    or is it "an isolated incident" ?

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    #1896
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    from my personal opinion,
    the cause for that sua is the loose nut behind the wheel.
    Hahaha, that could be true Doc.

    Although there is such a thing as a Runaway Diesel Engine, as we all know.

    Diesel engine runaway - Wikipedia

    I do hope Mitsu solves this current failure on their part, not just for the owners but for all motorists in general.

    Imagine following one of these at high-speed on the NLEX or SLEX and not realizing right away that they've stalled right in front of you? That could be cause for a major accident for everybody nearby.

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    #1897
    Quote Originally Posted by sparc179 View Post
    Hahaha, that could be true Doc.

    Although there is such a thing as a Runaway Diesel Engine, as we all know.

    Diesel engine runaway - Wikipedia

    I do hope Mitsu solves this current failure on their part, not just for the owners but for all motorists in general.

    Imagine following one of these at high-speed on the NLEX or SLEX and not realizing right away that they've stalled right in front of you? That could be cause for a major accident for everybody nearby.
    yespo.
    in the olden days, news of diesel (and gas!) engines keeping on running despite driver's claim that he already turned off the engine, was common knowledge. hence the term "dieseling" after the ignition key was turned off.
    some of us still remember the cable or tali that the puj driver would pull, to turn off his diesel engine.

    first, sua (sudden un-intended acceleration).
    now, sus (sudden un-intended stall).
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; May 27th, 2019 at 08:46 AM.

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    #1898
    Shell din ba gas nung mga nag fa fail na fuel pump sa Xpander?

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    #1899
    Imagine your driving on a road with Xpander on front and Montero at your back [emoji24][emoji24]

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    Imagine your driving on a road with Xpander on front and Montero at your back [emoji24][emoji24]

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    You savage

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