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    #5481
    91 is the minimum required, considering what is available in the market (ethanol mix) & the scruples of other entrepreneurs (selling below rated gasoline)

    We are better off with octane rating higher than the minimum recommended.

    A 95 octane dissipated value could be pegged at 92 octane which still meets the minimum requirement while a 91 dissipating at 88 is below minimum required
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    #5482
    hi guys

    I am gonna inspect this coming a weekend a repo Mirage GLX CVT model. There is limited info on the net like it has clocked in a 19km already so I need to check it onsite. What are the things to check?

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    #5483
    Hi! Is it normal na medyo maingay ang engine ng glx cvt model? Is it because of the cvt transmission? I find it noisier compared to other gas fed cars even to old models.

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    #5484
    Three cylinder engine. Naturally noisier than a four-cylinder due to the warbling idle.

    Also, the Mirage has no muffler, just a mid-pipe resonator.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #5485
    Three cylinder engine... naturally noisier than a four-cylinder at idle.

    Also, the Mirage, to save weight, has no muffler. Just a mid-pipe resonator.

    Good luck explaining that to the LTO.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #5486
    [QUOTE=niky;2378564]Three cylinder engine... naturally noisier than a four-cylinder at idle.

    Also, the Mirage, to save weight, has no muffler. Just a mid-pipe resonator.

    Good luck explaining that to the LTO. :

    Nicky, might be part of cost cutting of the manufacturer? Kaya pala malakas vibration ng tail pipe.


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    #5487
    mirage 2013 hatchback sideskirt driver side pwede mag order


    Quote Originally Posted by jinstan View Post
    Shark Bodykits for Mirage (Plastic) unpainted.. Price are as follows:

    Front Corners - 2,300
    Rear Corners - 2,300
    Rear skirt/diffuser - 3,000
    Side Skirts - 2850
    Rear Skirt with Dual
    Exhaust - 5,500

    Spoiler - 3,500

    If wrap around purchase freebie is either free wash n wype refill or 20% off crystalmat/spoiler discount.

    Share ko lang mga sir

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    #5488
    My son plans to replace his late model suzuki Grand Vitara with
    a more fuel efficient car. He is looking at an AT Wigo, celerio, or
    mirage. May I ask if Mitsubishi has come out with an official statement
    regarding the CVT starter problem. Has the problem been solve?
    Or chambahan nalang kung matapat sa iyo. The Mirage CVT based on
    a lot of readings seems to be the most fuel efficient among the 3.
    Many thanks.

    The 3 most important aspects are:
    1. Must be automatic
    2. Must be very fuel efficient in the City
    3. Cost of ownership is low.

    Thank you.

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    #5489
    Some mentioned their unit were scheduled for parts replacement but I didn't followed suit..my mirage glx-cvt recently reached 10000 km and all the problems I shared before went away

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    #5490
    Quote Originally Posted by Tj_abs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Three cylinder engine... naturally noisier than a four-cylinder at idle.

    Also, the Mirage, to save weight, has no muffler. Just a mid-pipe resonator.

    Good luck explaining that to the LTO.
    Nicky, might be part of cost cutting of the manufacturer? Kaya pala malakas vibration ng tail pipe.


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    Nope. Weight cutting. There's a reason the Mirage is only around 800 kilograms. They simply didn't put in things they didn't need, like an engine under-brace, extra engine mounts (Just two mounts. The third support is a torque bar connected to the front suspension subframe), a steel assembly in front of the engine (chassis ends at the wheel wells. Everything ahead of the engine is plastic) and etcetera.

    Given that... the Mirage is still a five star car on the NCAP (when equipped with stability control), which means that Mitsubishi spent good money on making the frame very rigid.
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    #5491
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Nope. Weight cutting. There's a reason the Mirage is only around 800 kilograms. They simply didn't put in things they didn't need, like an engine under-brace, extra engine mounts (Just two mounts. The third support is a torque bar connected to the front suspension subframe), a steel assembly in front of the engine (chassis ends at the wheel wells. Everything ahead of the engine is plastic) and etcetera.

    Given that... the Mirage is still a five star car on the NCAP (when equipped with stability control), which means that Mitsubishi spent good money on making the frame very rigid.
    Thanks niky.


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    #5492
    Quote Originally Posted by monmendoza View Post
    My son plans to replace his late model suzuki Grand Vitara with
    a more fuel efficient car. He is looking at an AT Wigo, celerio, or
    mirage. May I ask if Mitsubishi has come out with an official statement
    regarding the CVT starter problem. Has the problem been solve?
    Or chambahan nalang kung matapat sa iyo. The Mirage CVT based on
    a lot of readings seems to be the most fuel efficient among the 3.
    Many thanks.

    The 3 most important aspects are:
    1. Must be automatic
    2. Must be very fuel efficient in the City
    3. Cost of ownership is low.

    Thank you.
    I suggest, get the GLS matic, with a lot of promo's now, you can at least get 30k in additional discounts+freebies.
    You can get the cheaper GLX manual, but the additional 80K is well worth it like the
    keyless KOS system, 15 in wheels with bridgestone tires, rear spoiler, fog lamps, rear stablilizer bar, leather staeering wheel with audio controls and an AV unit with GPS.

    The Mirage, whatever variant is very frugal, the most fuel efficient non hybrid-gas engine in Japan and most of the world(some are equipped with an ISTOP tech..) In Jame's Deakins test's, it ranks 3rd or fourth? After Puegot's micro hybrid and Hyundai's CRDI hatch and the diesel spin... But that's just it, you'd have to spend 200k or more to purchase them, and chances are you'd have to drive them for 3-4 years just get back the extra acquisition cost right?

    As for the cost of ownership, well its just as any Japanese brand, you got to service it every 5k kilometers, oil filters are 350php, oil is about 3 liters....The only expensive item would be the ATF replacement at 2.5k? but thats every 40,000 kms.
    The bonus part is that's its got a real 5 year warranty unlike Hyundai bogus 3+2 warranty.

    But I've got to warn you. The Mirage/Wigo...and other entry level car was designed to be cheap to build and own, so dont expect class leading trim parts, or NVH levels and the like. Like they say..... you get what you pay for.... but the mirage GLS does offer a few extra bang for the bucks..

    HTH

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    #5493
    Anyone experience a vibrating sound when you open the aircon right after you start the engine?

    Di naman sya ganun pag nag warm up na yung engine

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    #5494
    When a cold engine is started, the idle would be higher for few minutes to warm up the engine via spark advance. At this point when you switch-on the aircon, the engine will spark advance more (anticipating a higher load), which will rev up the engine more with more noise, plus that a cold engine runs rougher than an a fully warmed engine.

    And of course we have 3 cylinder engine, but it is the same cycle with a 4 cylinder engine but lesser with those equipped with variable displacement AC compressor.

    But if you have a pathological engine noise as if it will die anytime, then you may have pumped a contaminated fuel or you have clogged injectors due to hot soaks for short trip driving. A cure for clogged injectors and dirty combustion chamber is to do italian tune-up, it will also wash the other internals of your engine. Milder version ng Italian tune-up lang po, hindi Ferrari ang kotse natin.
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    #5495
    Hey..thanks!...noob question..what is an italian tune up

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    #5496
    Quote Originally Posted by bosbik View Post
    Hey..thanks!...noob question..what is an italian tune up

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    rev the engine to redline. it is the believe of such, that at that rpm, carbon deposits, dirt, and other gunk will get shaken up or burned, cleaning the engine.
    would i do it? of course not! i'm not italian.
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    #5497
    y

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    #5498
    In an italian tune-up, you're working the engine hard, getting everything nice and toasty, which helps burn off deposits.

    Also, the valves (on port injection engines) are sprayed by the injectors... working the injectors at a higher duty cycle, spraying more gasoline (which is a solvent that cleans off gunk) at higher velocities at the back of the intake valves... which are working hotter... cleans off the valves... which can get carbon build-up due to the exhaust-gas recirculation system (which basically pumps exhaust back into the intake of the engine to cool the engine down).

    A good Italian tune-up can do wonders for a car.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #5499
    Quote Originally Posted by monmendoza View Post
    My son plans to replace his late model suzuki Grand Vitara with
    a more fuel efficient car. He is looking at an AT Wigo, celerio, or
    mirage. May I ask if Mitsubishi has come out with an official statement
    regarding the CVT starter problem. Has the problem been solve?
    Or chambahan nalang kung matapat sa iyo. The Mirage CVT based on
    a lot of readings seems to be the most fuel efficient among the 3.
    Many thanks.

    The 3 most important aspects are:
    1. Must be automatic
    2. Must be very fuel efficient in the City
    3. Cost of ownership is low.

    Thank you.
    Wigo wins in brand reliability, but not really fuel efficient especially in city traffic. It relies solely on its light weight for "good" economy (it's a dohc, but no vvti; classic 4 a/t), which isn't really helpful in heavy traffic situations.

    Mirage wins in economy and overall package. Good modern technology to help with economy and performance (e.g. cvt, mivec). People I know who bought mirages seem to be satisfied with their units.

    Celerio, not really familiar with this, other than I'm 5"10' and it was quite difficult to go in and out of that car haha

    I'd go for Mirage. I'd prefer the G4 though over the hatch for the trunk space (without sacrificing the rear passenger space)

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    #5500
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    In an italian tune-up, you're working the engine hard, getting everything nice and toasty, which helps burn off deposits.

    Also, the valves (on port injection engines) are sprayed by the injectors... working the injectors at a higher duty cycle, spraying more gasoline (which is a solvent that cleans off gunk) at higher velocities at the back of the intake valves... which are working hotter... cleans off the valves... which can get carbon build-up due to the exhaust-gas recirculation system (which basically pumps exhaust back into the intake of the engine to cool the engine down).

    A good Italian tune-up can do wonders for a car.
    Pano sir ang good italian tune up? Paabutin ng red line ng gaano katagal? Saang gear dapat? Dapat ba mabilis takbo? Or any procedure? Thanks

2013 Mitsubishi Mirage