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[_Cathy_]

Ang bilis naman humaba ng thread na to.. i cant follow na... kung may nakasagot na.... ulitin ko nalang

Cathy.... pwede nyo palabasin Sale- tax more or less 8%. Pag deed of donation nasa 15%. Estate tax nasa 1.25MILLION for the 1st 10million then 20% yung excess.

Regarding sa attys. Fees... depende sa caliber ng lawyer yan... pwede nalang kita refer sa kakilala ko... sabihin ko nalang GF kita para mura... he he

Nap pressure na ko sa Lola ko kasi araw araw tumatawag kung payag na ba ko na dun sa lawyer na mag pretend kami na hindi kami aware sa ibang heir. Mag absent daw ako sa work para matanong ko na daw sa lawyer, gusto ko naman mag knowledge ako pag pumunta ako and I am able to ask the proper questions.

Yung Estate tax sa land based on the zonal or market value? Saka nalilito ako sa computation ng lawyer, yung isang property liit liit ng value 85k fee niya. May iba pang properties na mas mahal, e ano ba basis ng lawyer sa pag charge? depende ba sa value ng property?

Ordinary lawyer lang kailangan namin, basta ma transfer at mabenta namin properties ng hindi nalalaman ng mga heir na ayaw namin

[fireice2]

Remember your lola is really old, when this bites you back, yung mga involved mananagot.

Kaya siguro ganyan fee nya kasi you want him to do something illegal.

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[dr. d]

Nap pressure na ko sa Lola ko kasi araw araw tumatawag kung payag na ba ko na dun sa lawyer na mag pretend kami na hindi kami aware sa ibang heir. Mag absent daw ako sa work para matanong ko na daw sa lawyer, gusto ko naman mag knowledge ako pag pumunta ako and I am able to ask the proper questions.

Yung Estate tax sa land based on the zonal or market value? Saka nalilito ako sa computation ng lawyer, yung isang property liit liit ng value 85k fee niya. May iba pang properties na mas mahal, e ano ba basis ng lawyer sa pag charge? depende ba sa value ng property?

Ordinary lawyer lang kailangan namin, basta ma transfer at mabenta namin properties ng hindi nalalaman ng mga heir na ayaw namin

the wife will say, "how can you say i don't exist? didn't we meet last xmas etc etc...? heto pa nga picture, a!"
bottomline: "be fair. don't be greedy."

there is no fair market lawyer's fees, if that is what you are looking for. he will charge what he feels is his due.

[_Cathy_]

Remember your lola is really old, when this bites you back, yung mga involved mananagot.

Kaya siguro ganyan fee nya kasi you want him to do something illegal.

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You mean if the other heirs sue us? But that will take a long time also, baka matanda na rin ako pag natapos?

My Lola doesn't want to give inheritance because she listens to what I say and everyone listens to what she says naman :P So I'm also feeling a little guilty because this will be partly my fault if we get into trouble.

I'm already getting palpitations from stress. And did I read BIR correctly that estate tax of land is based of market value at the time of death?

Effective July 28, 1992 up to December 31, 1997 (Section 77 of the NIRC, as amended (Republic Act No. 7499)- Does this mean the year of death?

If estate is over 10m the tax is 1.545M, over 10M is 35%?!?!?

[dr. d]

You mean if the other heirs sue us? But that will take a long time also, baka matanda na rin ako pag natapos?

My Lola doesn't want to give inheritance because she listens to what I say and everyone listens to what she says naman :P So I'm also feeling a little guilty because this will be partly my fault if we get into trouble.

I'm already getting palpitations from stress. And did I read BIR correctly that estate tax of land is based of market value at the time of death?

Effective July 28, 1992 up to December 31, 1997 (Section 77 of the NIRC, as amended (Republic Act No. 7499)- Does this mean the year of death?

If estate is over 10m the tax is 1.545M, over 10M is 35%?!?!?

advise your Lola, that san pedro will be waiting at the gates, and the first thing he will ask is, "asawa ng anak mo yan! apo mo yon! dugo mo ang dumadaloy sa puso ng mga batang yon! sino ka ba... si Ageda?!!"

yespo. the tax is based on the figures at the time of the death of the owner.

[_Cathy_]

the wife will say, "how can you say i don't exist? didn't we meet last xmas etc etc...? heto pa nga picture, a!"
bottomline: "be fair. don't be greedy."

there is no fair market lawyer's fees, if that is what you are looking for. he will charge what he feels is his due.

I don't think we are being greedy. And no, we abhor that woman pero pinipilit niya sarili niya so they are not invited in any of our family gatherings. I am very passionate about this because it's land our family has owned for over a century. And it was not an easy decision to sell but my Lola is 90 and none of us are interested with it.

Just because a woman opened her legs and got impregnated doesn't mean she gets a fair share. She is NOT blood. Family should be earned. I've seen them less than 20 times in my entire life. It really makes my blood boil when men lose their rationale on women (thinking with what is between the legs)

[_Cathy_]

advise your Lola, that san pedro will be waiting at the gates, and the first thing he will ask is, "asawa ng anak mo yan! apo mo yon! dugo mo ang dumadaloy sa puso ng mga batang yon! sino ka ba... si Ageda?!!"

yespo. the tax is based on the figures at the time of the death of the owner.

My Lola is a good person to people she loves. Pag hindi, sorry na lang :P

I still believe that blood does not automatically make one "family" especially if there was no relationship.

[dr. d]

I don't think we are being greedy. And no, we abhor that woman pero pinipilit niya sarili niya so they are not invited in any of our family gatherings. I am very passionate about this because it's land our family has owned for over a century. And it was not an easy decision to sell but my Lola is 90 and none of us are interested with it.

Just because a woman opened her legs and got impregnated doesn't mean she gets a fair share. She is NOT blood. Family should be earned. I've seen them less than 20 times in my entire life. It really makes my blood boil when men lose their rationale on women (thinking with what is between the legs)

you are wrong.
she is entitled to her fair share.
even the law is on her side.

but, if you can think of a reason why she should be dis-inherited... ask your lawyers. there is such list of dis-inheritable deeds.

[_Cathy_]

you are wrong.
she is entitled to her fair share.
even the law is on her side.

but, if you can think of a reason why she should be dis-inherited... ask your lawyers. there is such list of dis-inheritable deeds.

OMG! I am so close to crying, I am so upset with this whole situation and I really feel for my Lola.

Yes the "wife" is entitled but anyone with delicadeza should not show interest or go after it anymore. Even my own Mom who has been with my Dad since 1970, never nakialam sa mana ng Dad ko. And my Dad, the same.

So why should a woman who got impregnated, stayed in a short relationship (less than 2 yrs) be entitled to a share. Just because kinasal. IMO mas deserving pa yung nakipag live in ng 10 yrs sa kinasal ng 2 yrs.

What happened to the law na pag inheritance, walang share yung spouse?

[ninjababez]

di ba pwede benta nalang ng mabilisan (palugi) yung properties, instead of pamana. tutal buhay pa naman lola ni cathy and mukhang target lang nila e wag lang mabigyan yun mga ayaw nilang "relative/s".

[_Cathy_]

di ba pwede benta nalang ng mabilisan (palugi) yung properties, instead of pamana. tutal buhay pa naman lola ni cathy and mukhang target lang nila e wag lang mabigyan yun mga ayaw nilang "relative/s".

It's been transferred already. The properties we want to dispose are not in my Lola's name anymore.

[dcph172]

Have you heard of the saying: "if he cheats with you, he'll cheat on you"? You should be specially wary of lying lawyers who oversells and is willing to circumvent the law.


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[ninjababez]

It's been transferred already. The properties we want to dispose are not in my Lola's name anymore.

kanino naka pangalan pala mga ito? sa mga anak ba na wala na?
i think i need to backread lol

[Walter]

You should be angry at your uncle(?) who married the woman ... settle it properly now and give their share ... that woman is a potential problem in the future ... you can give them a little amount just to satisfy their greed ...

Cathy is not being greedy ... it's the woman who's feeling entitled that's greedy ... don't like people who assume that they have a share in the fruit of another person's labor ...

[glenn manikis]

Nap pressure na ko sa Lola ko kasi araw araw tumatawag kung payag na ba ko na dun sa lawyer na mag pretend kami na hindi kami aware sa ibang heir. Mag absent daw ako sa work para matanong ko na daw sa lawyer, gusto ko naman mag knowledge ako pag pumunta ako and I am able to ask the proper questions.

Yung Estate tax sa land based on the zonal or market value? Saka nalilito ako sa computation ng lawyer, yung isang property liit liit ng value 85k fee niya. May iba pang properties na mas mahal, e ano ba basis ng lawyer sa pag charge? depende ba sa value ng property?

Ordinary lawyer lang kailangan namin, basta ma transfer at mabenta namin properties ng hindi nalalaman ng mga heir na ayaw namin

Cathy... i can refer you to our lawyer friend... matagal cya sa Judiciary... as a Branch Clerk then nag private practice... sabihin ko nalang close tayo... or if you can also talk to our friend in Register of deeds and LRA... and my contact at BIR.. they know what to do... alam nila diskarte dyan.... pm me your number if your interested..

[fireice2]

Cathy... i can refer you to our lawyer friend... matagal cya sa Judiciary... as a Branch Clerk then nag private practice... sabihin ko nalang close tayo... or if you can also talk to our friend in Register of deeds and LRA... and my contact at BIR.. they know what to do... alam nila diskarte dyan.... pm me your number if your interested..

Cathy's case will not be settled without money going to the daughter-in-law of her Lola.

I know some lawyers will be willing to perform magic to let Cathy have what she wants. But the risk is always there. IMHO, they can feign ignorance on paper but certain facts in her case are easy to prove.

In any case additional facts may be needed to see if reserva troncal can be made applicable



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[dr. d]

Cathy's case will not be settled without money going to the daughter-in-law of her Lola.

I know some lawyers will be willing to perform magic to let Cathy have what she wants. But the risk is always there. IMHO, they can feign ignorance on paper but certain facts in her case are easy to prove.

In any case additional facts may be needed to see if reserva troncal can be made applicable



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i agree.
the duty of the lawyer, is to provide his client with any and all advantages, that the law has to offer.
he should not suggest, or even passively agree, that client violate the law.

[_Cathy_]

Have you heard of the saying: "if he cheats with you, he'll cheat on you"? You should be specially wary of lying lawyers who oversells and is willing to circumvent the law.

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I'm really having second thoughts with this lawyer too (esp after what fireice2 said that the lawyer could wash his hands if he cannot deliver)

kanino naka pangalan pala mga ito? sa mga anak ba na wala na?
i think i need to backread lol

Yung malaki ang value nasa 4 na anak ng Lola ko. 2 dun deceased na.

You should be angry at your uncle(?) who married the woman ... settle it properly now and give their share ... that woman is a potential problem in the future ... you can give them a little amount just to satisfy their greed ...

Cathy is not being greedy ... it's the woman who's feeling entitled that's greedy ... don't like people who assume that they have a share in the fruit of another person's labor ...

I am glad that someone understands how I feel.

Everyone in our family agrees that although the properties we wanna sell are not under my Lola's name anymore, she will still make the decision on the proceeds of the sale. The woman is our issue since legally she has a right Knowing her, she will not agree to this arrangement And yes she feels entitled because during the wake she mentioned the inheritance (APPALLING!)

Cathy... i can refer you to our lawyer friend... matagal cya sa Judiciary... as a Branch Clerk then nag private practice... sabihin ko nalang close tayo... or if you can also talk to our friend in Register of deeds and LRA... and my contact at BIR.. they know what to do... alam nila diskarte dyan.... pm me your number if your interested..

Wow! That is so nice of you! Dami mong contact! Nahihiya naman ako

Cathy's case will not be settled without money going to the daughter-in-law of her Lola.

I know some lawyers will be willing to perform magic to let Cathy have what she wants. But the risk is always there. IMHO, they can feign ignorance on paper but certain facts in her case are easy to prove.

In any case additional facts may be needed to see if reserva troncal can be made applicable


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I want to have an idea of what the consequences are. Does that mean everyone involved in the sale e damay?

[fireice2]

Kanina lang may pumunta sa office na malaking client... Problema pa rin sa lupa at mana... Mahirap lang kasi humihingi ang illegitimate

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[ninjababez]

Yung malaki ang value nasa 4 na anak ng Lola ko. 2 dun deceased na.

cathy, that means it belongs to the wife/husband and kids na nga, like what fireice2 said

I'm really having second thoughts with this lawyer too (esp after what fireice2 said that the lawyer could wash his hands if he cannot deliver)

may ganyan talaga lawyer, nag offer ng magic. ang laki ng hinihingi nya; case in point, lot value of 8-10 M, hinihingi kay ermat 2M. tapos wala pa kasiguraduhan.