Quote Originally Posted by Alpha_One View Post
There is a trick here, and it's still within simple physics. But it has absolutely nothing to do with the plane running against the runway!

Put it this way, you going on the freeway at 100KPH DOES NOT keep cars going the other direction at 100KPH!! The end result is that you pass by each other at 200KPH. It's exactly the same with the plane and the runway.

Also, I'm curious as to how you came up with the "no wind"/"air not moving" conclusion. Note that it's the ground that's moving against the plane, not the wind.
This is my last reply for the night, it's 3AM and I'm supposed to be in bed.

Your freeway analogy is NOT the same. Why? Because the cars are already moving, but in this case you're starting with a NON-moving body to be compared with a NON-moving body.

The ground is not moving against the plane in the real world, the plane moves against the ground. I did not say that the ground is moving against the wind! Where did you get that bit?