What Are You Thinking About?

[BratPAQ]

I have an IT manage friend. And a headhunter is asking him if they could try him out for CIO. He declined, I asked him why. He said his market would get smaller if he became a CIO. He said his market already got smaller when he was promoted from supervisor to manager.

Is that true? You can't move or apply to a lower position once promoted?

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[dr. d]

I have an IT manage friend. And a headhunter is asking him if they could try him out for CIO. He declined, I asked him why. He said his market would get smaller if he became a CIO. He said his market already got smaller when he was promoted from supervisor to manager.

Is that true? You can't move or apply to a lower position once promoted?

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what does he mean by "his market will get smaller" ?
is he talking about money, or people/contacts, or ...?

...errr... what's CIO? chief inspection officer?

[chronicle]

I have an IT manage friend. And a headhunter is asking him if they could try him out for CIO. He declined, I asked him why. He said his market would get smaller if he became a CIO. He said his market already got smaller when he was promoted from supervisor to manager.

Is that true? You can't move or apply to a lower position once promoted?

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It would raise questions why would you want to apply 1 level lower afterwards.

- baka ayaw na nito sa pressure
- baka pinag force resign to dahil di nya kaya trabaho (peluka)


And so on. Usually pa naman judgemental mga hr.

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[CVT]

It would raise questions why would you want to apply 1 level lower afterwards.

- baka ayaw na nito sa pressure
- baka pinag force resign to dahil di nya kaya trabaho (peluka)


And so on. Usually pa naman judgemental mga hr.

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Yup, the infamous Peter Principle....🤔😒😔

[SpinCycle]

what does he mean by "his market will get smaller" ?
is he talking about money, or people/contacts, or ...?

...errr... what's CIO? chief inspection officer?

The number of roles that will be available to you in the market will become smaller.

Since you are now CIO, companies will be reluctant to consider you for lower roles.

CIO - Chief Information Officer


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[CVT]

The number of roles that will be available to you in the market will become smaller.

Since you are now CIO, companies will be reluctant to consider you for lower roles.

CIO - Chief Information Officer


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Nevertheless, if I were your friend, I'd take the position.

Opportunities like that are few and far in between...

[dr. d]

The number of roles that will be available to you in the market will become smaller.

Since you are now CIO, companies will be reluctant to consider you for lower roles.

CIO - Chief Information Officer


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understood!
the "burning your bridges behind you" syndrome.

unless!
you intend to eventually strike out on your own.

[chronicle]

Nevertheless, if I were your friend, I'd take the position.

Opportunities like that are few and far in between...

you miss all the shots you don't take - mj

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[BratPAQ]

what does he mean by "his market will get smaller" ?
is he talking about money, or people/contacts, or ...?

...errr... what's CIO? chief inspection officer?

Positions he can apply for. AFAIK, there can be only 1 Chief Information Officer per company organization. So basically a CIO has to die or get promoted before there can be an opening to apply for.

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[BratPAQ]

It would raise questions why would you want to apply 1 level lower afterwards.

- baka ayaw na nito sa pressure
- baka pinag force resign to dahil di nya kaya trabaho (peluka)


And so on. Usually pa naman judgemental mga hr.

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Ok, I get it. Mahirap I dahilan na "wala ako makita ibang trabaho eh, pag tyagaan ko na lang to."

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[_Cathy_]

I have an IT manage friend. And a headhunter is asking him if they could try him out for CIO. He declined, I asked him why. He said his market would get smaller if he became a CIO. He said his market already got smaller when he was promoted from supervisor to manager.

Is that true? You can't move or apply to a lower position once promoted?

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This is true. Si crush ganyan, he can't move ng basta basta kasi sobrang taas na niya and there are very few companies in the Philippines with that position level.

[BratPAQ]

you miss all the shots you don't take - mj

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Nevertheless, if I were your friend, I'd take the position.

Opportunities like that are few and far in between...

Me too, I'd take it, maybe I'm short sighted, basta lumaki lang sweldo ok na. Bahala na bukas.

My friend though is thinking, what if the new company didn't like him and he was let go after probation.



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[chronicle]

Ok, I get it. Mahirap I dahilan na "wala ako makita ibang trabaho eh, pag tyagaan ko na lang to."

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Actually. I think your friend is right. If a company is looking for an exec level outside, then that means the remaining people at the company are incompetent. CIO positions should be filled internally. Sure, he/she will be welcomed, but sooner or later enemies will pop out. In the corp world, you need allies who knows your quirks well and long enough.

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[badkuk]

Where/how to donate unused medical supplies?

[CVT]

I have an IT manage friend. And a headhunter is asking him if they could try him out for CIO. He declined, I asked him why. He said his market would get smaller if he became a CIO. He said his market already got smaller when he was promoted from supervisor to manager.

Is that true? You can't move or apply to a lower position once promoted?

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Bro.,- again, your friend is thinking way ahead of his game.

He should check out the opportunity. If he is the right person,- then that's the time he starts thinking of whether to accept the job or not...

If he's a worrier (as he is right now), then I guess he is not fit for the position.

Executive positions are only meant for those who have confidence in themselves.

[dr. d]

Where/how to donate unused medical supplies?

go to any government hospital.
ask them, sir.

some of the folks there, have organized their "free samples" to give to indigent patients.

[jut703]

Chris H* ? That guy is a beast.




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Yes bro. He only started track driving seriously around a year ago. He's corporate like you, based overseas. I'm sure that if you put in the same time and effort, you can also become a track god. [emoji108]

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[SpinCycle]

Me too, I'd take it, maybe I'm short sighted, basta lumaki lang sweldo ok na. Bahala na bukas.

My friend though is thinking, what if the new company didn't like him and he was let go after probation.



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If he thinks he can’t handle the CIO role, then he is being prudent about not accepting it. If he’s currently a regular employee in his existing job, there is a lot of risk in jumping into a new company and a role with so much pressure behind it.

In the short term, yes he will receive a higher salary. But what happens after 6 months and he is not regularized? He’s jobless and needing to explain to every potential hiring HR and boss why he was not regularized in his last company.




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[jut703]

I have an IT manage friend. And a headhunter is asking him if they could try him out for CIO. He declined, I asked him why. He said his market would get smaller if he became a CIO. He said his market already got smaller when he was promoted from supervisor to manager.

Is that true? You can't move or apply to a lower position once promoted?

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I understand his line of thinking, but I don't agree with it.

Getting promoted to CIO is one of the pinnacles of an IT career. You get good pay, you manage an entire organization's IT operations, you lead and train an entire group of IT professionals, you're part of the executive board of that organization, and so on.

Tapos aayawan niya kasi liliit market niya? Bakit iniisip niya na kagad na aalis siya? Does he not have the confidence in himself and in the organization to stay for a good number of years?

Of course the market is smaller for CIOs compared to managers and supervisors. It's a corporate pyramid. Palipat lipat man siyang manager, manager lang siya. Hindi siya CIO. Eto na yung chance niya maging CIO, ayaw niya pa.

Btw, I don't agree that it's a dead end. My tito was promoted CEO of a small local company around a decade ago. You'd think that's the dead end of his corporate career, but he's been able to find 3 other CEO jobs afterwards (his job-hopping is another topic altogether, but my point is there are many companies looking for top level execs).

So if your friend is really CIO calibre, he can always find another job elsewhere. His line of thinking right now is actually making me think that he probably doesn't have what it takes to be CIO that's why he's chickening out of it before he even tried the interview process.


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[Egan101]

I'm looking forward to getting myself into a CIO position. It's not as easy as it seems. You have to be exposed in all aspects of IT operations so that you know what you're getting into. If you ask me, an IT infrastructure management practitioner has better chances of landing a CIO position than an IT application development management practitioner.