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    Magintercropping kayo. Search nyo mga magagaling sa organic farming.

    Gil carandang is the father of organic farming in the philippines. Mahal sya sumingil, sikat sya internationally. Pero try nyo iba magaling magturo search lang kayo. Trial and error yan. Buy books tapos apply.

    Regarding meat chicken talaga tadtad na antibiotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Magintercropping kayo. Search nyo mga magagaling sa organic farming.

    Gil carandang is the father of organic farming in the philippines. Mahal sya sumingil, sikat sya internationally. Pero try nyo iba magaling magturo search lang kayo. Trial and error yan. Buy books tapos apply.

    Regarding meat chicken talaga tadtad na antibiotic.
    Thank you bro. Gusto ko yung mga high valued crops for my farm, but I want organic. I'll educate myself about this. May ma i suggest ka ba na crop? TIA

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    Pag sa food crops wala ako gaano pa alam kung sino maganda tabi tabi para iwas peste at maganda sa soil. More on sa punong kahoy native/indemic trees lang alam ko.

    Kung serious ka talaga enroll ka sa school na meron farming. Kailangan mo matutunan technicals. At punta ka sa mga bazaar ng organic farming make friends dadami matutunan mo. Ako nagaral hindi lang formal more kasi sa health yung habol ko. Pero parang gusto ko pasukin magkaroon ng health food store. Kaso kailangan paghandaan yan.

    Nung sumikat kasi organic farming madami may-ari ng lote sabak agad pero wala aral kaya ayun lugi namatay mga tanim.

    Kaya habang aral ka meron application trial and error. Magsimula ka muna sa maliit. Mga 5 star hotel yung mga gulay na kinukuha nila mga organic farming sa tagaytay. Meron isang sikat na organic farm maliit lang yun. isa or dalawa lang tauhan pero grabe sales annualy 1 billion pesos tapos pasweldo doon sa tauhan minimum or wala pa ata sa minimum.

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    Small plot of land? 1 billion sales? Must be planting something fishy.

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    Lols!

    mostly basing from experience, combination. Mahirap yun purely organic kapag commercial scale. Clients wont waste time on you kapag hindi mo kaya makapag-deliver ng requirements nila.

    50 hectare is ok. Just maximize the land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Small plot of land? 1 billion sales? Must be planting something fishy.
    Sa pagkaalala ko 1 or 2 hectares lang yung lote. Direcho sa mga hotel gulay nya. Purely organic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Sa pagkaalala ko 1 or 2 hectares lang yung lote. Direcho sa mga hotel gulay nya. Purely organic.
    Wow! Anong produce nila sir? Mukhang ok yan crop na yan ah!

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    #28
    Laki ng sales. Hindi na ako mag aambisyon ng 1 billion gross sale. Ok na sa akin yung may return ang investment ko at ma improve yung health natin. Pag aaralan ko yan bro, thanks sa advise.

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    #29
    Even if they're planting Cannabis Sativa a billion gross sales is quite impossible unless they intercrop it with Methamphetamine Hydrochloride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Sa pagkaalala ko 1 or 2 hectares lang yung lote. Direcho sa mga hotel gulay nya. Purely organic.
    If this were true, SM Malls or San Miguel would close their operations and just plant vegetables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    If this were true, SM Malls or San Miguel would close their operations and just plant vegetables.
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    If this were true, SM Malls or San Miguel would close their operations and just plant vegetables.
    Totoo ito. Ang may-ari foreigner. Ang insulto pa dito eh ang family nya nasa ibang bansa doon nag-aaral mga anak padala lang sya pera. Housewife asawa.

    Check nyo bagong study ngayon sa organic fertilizer. Di ba ang sikat sa atin ngayon vermiculture. Ngayon ang sikat sa india or africa ata eh a certain type of mosquto better than earthworms, Nalimutan ko name pero grabe ang isip ko sa lamok eh peste pero meron pala pakinabang ito. Nagbreed sila a certain type of mosquito tapos gamitin sa organic farming.

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    #32
    1 billion zimbabwe dollars? Hehe

    Does Herbana farms even earn that much?

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    Kung wala pera sa farming alamin nyo sino may-ari ng hectare ng lupa sa mindanao. Filipino ba or foreigner?

    Ang mga top 5 star hotel hindi kumukuha sa kung saan saan lang ng gulay. Kahit yung pinagmamalaki ng SMC na organic chicken at eggs duda ako kung totoo organic yun. Walang matinong regulatory ang organic association ang pilipinas kahit USDA napolitica na din.

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    Ito im following this international forum about health. Its not perfect kasi you need to learn about health.

    Example na lang sa politics ng health.

    Generative Energy #23: Q&A - Weight Loss, Dating, Red Light, Authorities, And Starch (With Haidut) | Page 3 | Ray Peat Forum

    Danny: your opinion on various commercial soaps, deodorants, shampoos etc. Do you use them? Do you think other people should use them? What do you think?


    Georgi: I avoid them like the plague for no other reason, but I recently found out and I think we talked about this offline. The original USDA standard was created in the 1970s and I think it originally only allowed only 5 chemicals that do not occur in nature to be part of any organic product. Little by little, slowly, without much publicity or fanfare this list has increased from 5 to 278, to the point where we have known carcinogens, such as carrageenan and the various gums, these are allowed to be included in organic foods and in many states, they do not even have to be present on the label. So if basically that is the flagship standard of food and what the healthiest thing you can buy virtually ingests, imagine what kind of laws are there that allows the industry to not label the poison that is in your shampoo or in your soap. Some of the stuff that is labelled, is pretty bad. There are some derivatives, some plasticides that I posted on the forum, they are related to the beta chemical called BPA and these things are added directly to your shampoo and soap. Not to mention the artificial fragrances, many of which are known carcinogens. The official version, well we are not adding them in the doses where they are known to cause cancer. However, remember in order for us to know the full effect of a chemical on an organism, whether it is a drug or something that is added to a shampoo or soap, usually two or three decades need to pass until we get a full idea of the long term effect. So knowing how much money is involved in the whole industry, I avoid all these products like the plague and the only soap I use is pure glycerine soap that I buy from Wholefoods. I actually wrote to the manufacturer, cause I didn’t trust the label either, even though it looks, it’s just a transparent soap. It doesn’t smell like anything. It just smells like soap. The manufacturer sent me a certificate of analysis, after some back and forth. They wanted to know why am I asking about this? Am I a researcher? Am I a cop? Am I trying to sue them? Yeah I’m serious about this. They were very defensive about this. They released a certificate of analysis because they apparentlt hired an independent lab to do an analysis of the soap because they wanted to certify it as organic. They didn’t certify it because it was too expensive, but at least they claimed that whatever soap they sell it stills the certificate of analysis that was sold, which was six months ago is still valid. The plain, if you shop at wholefoods, I don’t endorse their products, but that’s the one I use, the plain 365 brand of soap and they have several ones of the same brand. Some of them with vitamin e, some of them with lavender oil, some of them with almond oil, I had reactions to all of them except the plain glycerine in it, which has nothing in it but that and sodium hydroxide in it.

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    #35
    There is money sa agriculture pero that much sa liit na parcela ng lupa? I guess maling crops ang tinatanim namin....

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    Hindi sa maling crop. Kung nakuha nyo trust ng hotel. Marami test na kailangan daanan.

    Intricate mga chefs jan. They will ship pa sa ibang bansa kung alam nila wala sa standard ang ingredients.

    Nabasa nyo sa newspaper bago sumikat carmens best ice cream sila supplier ng milk sa amanpulo. Walang "lagay" under the table yun. We are talking about amanpulo one of the top resort sa buong mundo. Para makapasa ka jan dapat quality ka.

    Dito sa philippines ang available na tunay na ice cream carmens best and some flavors of haagen dazs. Pure milk fat and no stabilier, emulsifier. Yung selecta, magnolia, big scopp even arce dairy eh madaya. Read the ingredients puro carageenan gums, guar gums, xanthan gums, mga dugas ice cream. Puro "hangin"

    So pag pasok kayo sa organic farming aral talaga muna. Wag kayo mang-gagaya gaya lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Ito im following this international forum about health. Its not perfect kasi you need to learn about health.

    Example na lang sa politics ng health.

    Generative Energy #23: Q&A - Weight Loss, Dating, Red Light, Authorities, And Starch (With Haidut) | Page 3 | Ray Peat Forum

    Danny: your opinion on various commercial soaps, deodorants, shampoos etc. Do you use them? Do you think other people should use them? What do you think?


    Georgi: I avoid them like the plague for no other reason, but I recently found out and I think we talked about this offline. The original USDA standard was created in the 1970s and I think it originally only allowed only 5 chemicals that do not occur in nature to be part of any organic product. Little by little, slowly, without much publicity or fanfare this list has increased from 5 to 278, to the point where we have known carcinogens, such as carrageenan and the various gums, these are allowed to be included in organic foods and in many states, they do not even have to be present on the label. So if basically that is the flagship standard of food and what the healthiest thing you can buy virtually ingests, imagine what kind of laws are there that allows the industry to not label the poison that is in your shampoo or in your soap. Some of the stuff that is labelled, is pretty bad. There are some derivatives, some plasticides that I posted on the forum, they are related to the beta chemical called BPA and these things are added directly to your shampoo and soap. Not to mention the artificial fragrances, many of which are known carcinogens. The official version, well we are not adding them in the doses where they are known to cause cancer. However, remember in order for us to know the full effect of a chemical on an organism, whether it is a drug or something that is added to a shampoo or soap, usually two or three decades need to pass until we get a full idea of the long term effect. So knowing how much money is involved in the whole industry, I avoid all these products like the plague and the only soap I use is pure glycerine soap that I buy from Wholefoods. I actually wrote to the manufacturer, cause I didn’t trust the label either, even though it looks, it’s just a transparent soap. It doesn’t smell like anything. It just smells like soap. The manufacturer sent me a certificate of analysis, after some back and forth. They wanted to know why am I asking about this? Am I a researcher? Am I a cop? Am I trying to sue them? Yeah I’m serious about this. They were very defensive about this. They released a certificate of analysis because they apparentlt hired an independent lab to do an analysis of the soap because they wanted to certify it as organic. They didn’t certify it because it was too expensive, but at least they claimed that whatever soap they sell it stills the certificate of analysis that was sold, which was six months ago is still valid. The plain, if you shop at wholefoods, I don’t endorse their products, but that’s the one I use, the plain 365 brand of soap and they have several ones of the same brand. Some of them with vitamin e, some of them with lavender oil, some of them with almond oil, I had reactions to all of them except the plain glycerine in it, which has nothing in it but that and sodium hydroxide in it.
    DDT, PCA,PCB are all around us. Food stuff, toys, etc.., Not to mention creamer (hydrogenated oil/fats) in our coffee that has a molecular structure of a plastic than a cream.Some branded textiles, perfumes, lipstick is made up of lead and PCB's. A perfect recipe for a death sentence from an unknown cause.

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Hindi sa maling crop. Kung nakuha nyo trust ng hotel. Marami test na kailangan daanan.

    Intricate mga chefs jan. They will ship pa sa ibang bansa kung alam nila wala sa standard ang ingredients.

    Nabasa nyo sa newspaper bago sumikat carmens best ice cream sila supplier ng milk sa amanpulo. Walang "lagay" under the table yun. We are talking about amanpulo one of the top resort sa buong mundo. Para makapasa ka jan dapat quality ka.

    Dito sa philippines ang available na tunay na ice cream carmens best and some flavors of haagen dazs. Pure milk fat and no stabilier, emulsifier. Yung selecta, magnolia, big scopp even arce dairy eh madaya. Read the ingredients puro carageenan gums, guar gums, xanthan gums, mga dugas ice cream. Puro "hangin"

    So pag pasok kayo sa organic farming aral talaga muna. Wag kayo mang-gagaya gaya lang.
    Korek ka dito brotha. Dapat pag aralan lahat ng anggulo. Gawan ng SWOT or Octagon analysis.


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    Sorry for not backreading but. . .

    Well-water will not cause harm to your soil. Chemical fertilizers will, in the long run, make it acidic. Lime can correct that but it will cost money if you have a big farm land.

    Fallow is the practice of leaving the farm land untouched to allow is to recover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Sorry for not backreading but. . .

    Well-water will not cause harm to your soil. Chemical fertilizers will, in the long run, make it acidic. Lime can correct that but it will cost money if you have a big farm land.

    Fallow is the practice of leaving the farm land untouched to allow is to recover.
    I read about soil acidity and you're right, intensive synthetic fertilizer and chemical application is not sustainable. If fallowed, how many years?

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