Walkout

[IceColdBeer]

Halatang halata naman talagang pinipigilan nilang matuloy yung amendment complaints. Well, I just see double standards regarding the walkout. When the senators walked out during Erap's impeachment proceedings, eh okay lang pero yung nangyari kahapon eh sinasabing hindi maganda ginawa nila? Tsk tsk tsk

[mbt]

the opposition walking out (theatrics, drama, incompetence, throwing in the towel, whatever you want to call it) does not change the following facts and premises:

1. a GMA ALLY submitted a weak complaint
2. GMA wanted that weak complaint filed (most probably to bar further, more credible impeachment complaints)
3. GMA herself is arm-twisting, probably even bribing congressmen
4. GMA declared a government holiday in suspicious circumstances
5. GMA declared many times that she looked forward to an impeachment and will answer to a proper forum... yet she does all these things

c'mon people, don't see the trees but not the forest. don't see the bumbling opposition (can't blame you though) but not the scheming administration. don't seek stability and order but not the truth behind the allegations. don't see the opposition politicians neglecting their duties in their haste to oust the president but not the administration politicians (not the least, GMA) neglecting their duties in their haste to cover-up and "survive".

all i'm saying is, don't just look at the opposition. look at the administration too. finding out the truth is not the function of the opposition only, but of the citizenry.

[baiskee]

come to think of it...

tingnan nyo yung mga justice committee members... majority TRAPO.





dami pa rin BULAG. tsk...tsk...

(bato-bato sa langit, ang tamaan ay pangit... )

[IceColdBeer]

the opposition walking out (theatrics, drama, incompetence, throwing in the towel, whatever you want to call it) does not change the following facts and premises:

1. a GMA ALLY submitted a weak complaint
2. GMA wanted that weak complaint filed (most probably to bar further, more credible impeachment complaints)
3. GMA herself is arm-twisting, probably even bribing congressmen
4. GMA declared a government holiday in suspicious circumstances
5. GMA declared many times that she looked forward to an impeachment and will answer to a proper forum... yet she does all these things

c'mon people, don't see the trees but not the forest. don't see the bumbling opposition (can't blame you though) but not the scheming administration. don't seek stability and order but not the truth behind the allegations. don't see the opposition politicians neglecting their duties in their haste to oust the president but not the administration politicians (not the least, GMA) neglecting their duties in their haste to cover-up and "survive".

all i'm saying is, don't just look at the opposition. look at the administration too. finding out the truth is not the function of the opposition only, but of the citizenry.

[zeagle]

Hypocrito talaga ang admin. Yung mga sinasabi nila e yan din ang ginawa nila kay erap. She will not go down. Her motto: "What are we in power for?"

I'm sorry but I can't seem to comprehend "Sino ang ipapalit?" Who will replace her is not the point. Kung may kasalanan, dapat pagbayaran.

[baiskee]

We should get over this nonsense ASAP so that people can work on the real needs of the Filipino.

re-phrase natin...

GMA should step down so that people can work on the real needs of the Filipino. ;)

[baiskee]

Hypocrito talaga ang admin. Yung mga sinasabi nila e yan din ang ginawa nila kay erap. She will not go down. Her motto: "What are we in power for?"

I'm sorry but I can't seem to comprehend "Sino ang ipapalit?" Who will replace her is not the point. Kung may kasalanan, dapat pagbayaran.

mismomoh! ang issue...yung nagkasala na dapat parusahan, hindi yung wala naman mailagay na kapalit.

[H1Tman]

re-phrase natin...

GMA should step down so that people can work on the real needs of the Filipino. ;)

ok ka talaga baiskee! ni-refer mo na ko sa automedics. gets mo pa message in the sky some people refused to see! mabuhay ka!

[mrpink]

rGMA should step down so that people can work on the real needs of the Filipino. ;)

ahh .. but who will they follow ? .. which leads us back to square one ..

[stinkaboy]

tama naman ibasura yung complaints!

[rbortega1981]

hndi nman ibinabasura ung impechment sabi ng batas isang impeachment isang taon. E ung complaint ni luzano ang unang naifile kaya un ang dapat dinggin ng congress e ang gustong mangyari ng mga oposisyon dinggin lahat ung 3 impeachment e sila gumawa ng batas ng impeachment na 1 beses lang kada isang taon tapos silang mga gumawa ng batas ang gustong mag violate ng batas gsto 3 agad ang dinggin. dapat sumunod sa batas isang impeachment lang hndi ung 3 agad. hndi nman porke hndi pagbigyan ung ibang complaint sa pangulo e tinatago na ang katotohanan kung hndi dapat sundin natin ang proceso e ano pa silbi at gumawa pa tau ng batas e di nman susundin. tama man o hndi dinggin ung ibang complain sundin natin kung ano cnasabi ng batas isang impeachment isang taon at silang mga tonggressman ang gumawa nun kaya un ang dapat nila sundin.

ang hirap kc sa oposisyon hndi magkasundo lahat sa kanila gsto umupo e kung nagfile at nagkaisa sila sa ififile na impeachment e di walang katwiran ang administration.

[baiskee]

ahh .. but who will they follow ? .. which leads us back to square one ..

the vice president.

[IceColdBeer]

tama naman ibasura yung complaints!

Galeng! :cheers:

[mbt]

yun nga exactly yung issue e (for me at least): yung lozano complaint. strategy ni GMA yan to invoke a technicality. strategy, manipulation, ploy, maneuvering, cover-up.

who will they follow? someone that deserves to be followed in the first place. why should I follow a "fake, scheming" president (and she doesn't seem to be interested in refuting those adjectives, even in "the proper forum")? it doesn't seem to me that people are "following" GMA now.

[rbortega1981]

Lahat ng mga politico ay nandaya walang hindi nandaya lahat ng mga iyan ay pera ang pinagagana tuwing my election. Kung ayaw madaya wag tumakbo sa halalan m2log na lang sa bahay. Walang politico na ang iniicp ay ang tutuong kapakanan ng bayan merong ilan na totoo ang pagseserbisyo pero mas marami ang nakaupo na pansarili lang nila ang iniicp. Ang totoong pagbabago ng bansa ay wala sa kamay ng mga nakaupo kung hindi nasa kamay nating mga mamayang Pilipino kung meron mang unang dapat baguhin sa ating bansa hndi ang pamahalaan kung hindi tayo mismong mga Pilipino na bumubuo ng ating bansa.

[Mguy]

manipulation of impeachment by the president . . . .

lahat ay nandaya sa election . . .


sakit ng pilipino ay everybody is jumping to conclusions, being predjudice, making up theories of what is not yet fact.

"A lie repeated a thousand times becomes the truth"

my 2 cents lang

[mrpink]

well .. kung sa boxing eh .. gma has this round .. obviously the bright boys of the opposition were caught with their pants down .. or perhaps .. they're just not that bright .. that's probably what disgusts me with the opposition .. it's bad enough na trapo yung mga nasa admin .. pero the fact that the opposition is not really the "opposition" but really just factions of selfserving ninnies just trying to make a name for themselves hoping to get some media mileage enough for the next election .. i actually hope they can muster 79 signatures .. let's see how the ejercitos in the senate try to debate this against lapid and revilla .. sobrang laughtrip siguro ..

[boybi]

i actually hope they can muster 79 signatures .. let's see how the ejercitos in the senate try to debate this against lapid and revilla .. sobrang laughtrip siguro ..

yan ang gusto ko din abangan, walang sinabi ang pinoy big brother dito! :bwahaha:

[mazdamazda]

manipulation of impeachment by the president . . . .

lahat ay nandaya sa election . . .


sakit ng pilipino ay everybody is jumping to conclusions, being predjudice, making up theories of what is not yet fact.

"A lie repeated a thousand times becomes the truth"

my 2 cents lang

Yup.

People are talking like they were besides GMA when she made that phone call to Garcillano. Giving it twists & turns that might or might not exist.

Some sample of everyday "lies" that were repeated a thousand times and became the truth:

> God banishes Adam & Eve for eating from the Tree of Knowledge - this is the common "truth", but if you read the scriptures they were banished because they *might* eat the Fruit of Life (which gives eternal life) after eating the first fruit.

> Aguinaldo executed Bonifacio because of political rivalry. Nope, Bonifacio was executed for treason by setting up his own revolutionary government after the Aguinaldo was elected.

[mbt]

so, pray tell, where will the truth come from then? perhaps let's all wait for GMA (and all the politicos who cheat/cheated) to publicly declare the "truth" then? hintayin natin bumalik si Garci. sila lang naman nakakaalam e.

nakupo, namuti na yung mga uwak naghihintay pa rin tayo.

mag khaos na tayong lahat sa mga sasakyan natin. sinabi na ni planas yung katotohanan. wala naman tayo dun sa tabi niya nung inimbento niya yung KSTC diba? sino ba sa atin nakasubok nito sa makina niya? all the arguments against Khaos are nothing more than hearsay. kahit gano pa ka well-reasoned yung mga argumento, hearsay pa rin! no matter how much you use your brains to add 1 and 1, hearsay pa rin!

hehe.