Virgin Coconut Oil (VCO)

[theveed]

no offense cynganda: there have been no studies linking VCO or any other oils directly relieving symptoms of any disease, virus or bacteria. Let alone a blood-glucose issue like diabetes.

my point is, yes it is a HEALTHIER source of essential fatty acids, but it doesn't cure anything nor is it supposed to.

nobody would claim that eating a light sunflowerseed based margarine or eating oatmeal "cured" their cholesterol problem, it's just a better substitute to bad saturated fats or carb.

taking VCO/OO instead of vegetable/animal fat provides the same benefit as switching from white bread to whole wheat.

I'm not putting down VCO, not at all, but one cannot make therapeutic claims when there aren't any.

[scarab]

di naman gamot yan eh, there are no side effects or even any therapeutic claims. It's just another source of polyunsaturated oil you can use for cooking or any consumption.

...isn't polyunsaturated bad or is it mono? basta its the sort of fat na nagiging "artificial" daw. mainly used in margarine and commercial biscuits.

...maybe im just reading too much forwarded e-mails.

[wildthing]

you are just reading too much forwarded emails.

[Elroi]

yung orig VCO daw dapat ay COLD PRESSED... meaning di siya niluto...

[johnnyd]

vco to be called virgin coconut oil should not be heated to more than 50 deg. C. mawawala daw yung mga micro-nutrients nito. theveed is right because there are no studies yet to support vco's claim to cure diseases, puro anecdotal lang as a cure. as a supplement siguro ok. siguro cure for contstipation ok yan. sabi ng isang friend ko yun ang problem ng kid nya. nagmo-move ng bowels nya every 3 days lang & hirap yung bata. when the kid started taking vco, ok na daw at di na hirap yung bata.

[j_avonni]

How about the EXTRA Virgin Coconut Oil? What's the difference from the ordinary one?

[johnnyd]

How about the EXTRA Virgin Coconut Oil? What's the difference from the ordinary one?

baka like olive oil, the first pressing is called extra virgin olive oil.

[BlueBimmer]

vco to be called virgin coconut oil should not be heated to more than 50 deg. C. mawawala daw yung mga micro-nutrients nito. theveed is right because there are no studies yet to support vco's claim to cure diseases, puro anecdotal lang as a cure. as a supplement siguro ok. siguro cure for contstipation ok yan. sabi ng isang friend ko yun ang problem ng kid nya. nagmo-move ng bowels nya every 3 days lang & hirap yung bata. when the kid started taking vco, ok na daw at di na hirap yung bata.

pinapadulas cguro intestinal tracts ng bata since oil e haha

[solidaudio]

Hi guys!!

try nyo "virgin tropics" brand...available sa rustan's supermarkets. BFAD approved..

maybe you should give it a try...

there's no such thing as extra virgin coconut oil..marketing lang yan.

VCO is VCO...cold pressed, no chemicals..that's just it.

The product only sees 40 degrees Celsius of heat.

PM me for more info...

[solidaudio]

...isn't polyunsaturated bad or is it mono? basta its the sort of fat na nagiging "artificial" daw. mainly used in margarine and commercial biscuits.

...maybe im just reading too much forwarded e-mails.

what is bad is the processed hydrogentated ones.. may it be soy bean oil, canola oil, palm oil..basta hydrogenated..meaning processed na. Margarine is one source of hydrogenated fats..

[johnnyd]

pinapadulas cguro intestinal tracts ng bata since oil e haha

yun din ang naisip ko. parang na-coat yung intestinal lining tapos dumadaosdos na lang yung waste.

[zildjian]

di naman gamot yan eh, there are no side effects or even any therapeutic claims. It's just another source of polyunsaturated oil you can use for cooking or any consumption.

sir, it's not polyunsaturated oil but more of a highly stable saturated fat (92%). below is more info.

Fatty Acid Classifications By Saturation

Fatty acids are classified in the following way:

Saturated: A fatty acid is saturated when all available carbon bonds are occupied by a hydrogen atom. They are highly stable, because all the carbon-atom linkages are filled-or saturated-with hydrogen. This means that they do not normally go rancid, even when heated for cooking purposes. They are straight in form and hence pack together easily, so that they form a solid or semisolid fat at room temperature. Your body makes saturated fatty acids from carbohydrates and they are found in animal fats and tropical oils.

Monounsaturated: Monounsaturated fatty acids have one double bond in the form of two carbon atoms double-bonded to each other and, therefore, lack two hydrogen atoms. Your body makes monounsaturated fatty acids from saturated fatty acids and uses them in a number of ways.

Monounsaturated fats have a kink or bend at the position of the double bond so that they do not pack together as easily as saturated fats and, therefore, tend to be liquid at room temperature. Like saturated fats, they are relatively stable. They do not go rancid easily and hence can be used in cooking. The monounsaturated fatty acid most commonly found in our food is oleic acid, the main component of olive oil as well as the oils from almonds, pecans, cashews, peanuts and avocados.

Polyunsaturated: Polyunsaturated fatty acids have two or more pairs of double bonds and, therefore, lack four or more hydrogen atoms. The two polyunsaturated fatty acids found most frequently in our foods are double unsaturated linoleic acid, with two double bonds-also called omega-6; and triple unsaturated linolenic acid, with three double bonds-also called omega-3. (The omega number indicates the position of the first double bond.)

Your body cannot make these fatty acids and hence they are called "essential." We must obtain our essential fatty acids or EFA's from the foods we eat. The polyunsaturated fatty acids have kinks or turns at the position of the double bond and hence do not pack together easily. They are liquid, even when refrigerated.

The unpaired electrons at the double bonds makes these oils highly reactive.

They go rancid easily, particularly omega-3 linolenic acid, and must be treated with care. Polyunsaturated oils should never be heated or used in cooking. In nature, the polyunsaturated fatty acids are usually found in the cis form, which means that both hydrogen atoms at the double bond are on the same side.

All fats and oils, whether of vegetable or animal origin, are some combination of saturated fatty acids, monounsaturated fatty acids and polyunsaturated linoleic acid and linolenic acid. In general, animal fats such as butter, lard and tallow contain about 40-60% saturated fat and are solid at room temperature.

Vegetable oils from northern climates contain a preponderance of polyunsaturated fatty acids and are liquid at room temperature. But vegetable oils from the tropics are highly saturated. Coconut oil, for example, is 92% saturated. These fats are liquid in the tropics but hard as butter in northern climes. Vegetable oils are more saturated in hot climates because the increased saturation helps maintain stiffness in plant leaves. Olive oil with its preponderance of oleic acid is the product of a temperate climate. It is liquid at warm temperatures but hardens when refrigerated.

[zildjian]

what is bad is the processed hydrogentated ones.. may it be soy bean oil, canola oil, palm oil..basta hydrogenated..meaning processed na. Margarine is one source of hydrogenated fats..

these hydrogenated fats produces trans fat which is really the bad guy.

[zildjian]

no offense cynganda: there have been no studies linking VCO or any other oils directly relieving symptoms of any disease, virus or bacteria. Let alone a blood-glucose issue like diabetes.

my point is, yes it is a HEALTHIER source of essential fatty acids, but it doesn't cure anything nor is it supposed to.

nobody would claim that eating a light sunflowerseed based margarine or eating oatmeal "cured" their cholesterol problem, it's just a better substitute to bad saturated fats or carb.

taking VCO/OO instead of vegetable/animal fat provides the same benefit as switching from white bread to whole wheat.

I'm not putting down VCO, not at all, but one cannot make therapeutic claims when there aren't any.

yes, authors supporting vco i guess does not claim that it's therapeutic but more of prevention and control i guess. it's good for constipation though.

[theveed]

zildjian: my mistake regarding saturation...

regarding therapeutic claims kasi, here in manila every supplement is marketed as a cure.

[zildjian]

no problem bossing theveed.

yap, agree ako when it comes to claims. naniniwala ako na walang instant cure nowadays. meron pa siguro mga pang control at pang prevent para hindi lumala mga sakit.

i've been researching nga heavily on oils, vaccine, and other stuffs related to health. because of that, hindi na ako gumagamit ng oils na canola, corn, soya, at mga highly refined ones dun ako sa lesser evil oils. it's ironic nga kasi canola is being marketed as good for the heart but an officemate of mine na canola user before ay naatake. he's now coco or palm oil (golden fiesta - lesser evil daw) user at hinto nya canola. nawala na pangingirut ng kanyang puso. i'm not saying that the coco oil cured it. siguro nalessen na lang nung hininto nya canola. the use of coco oil might have not aggravated his heart condition.

i don't do vaccine also anymore. my 6 months old baby girl only received the one that was given right at birth and i did not know at that time that there are bad effects specially mercury (in form of thimerosal) containing vaccines. autism daw ang side effect nito according to many studies which the cdc and fda is covering up. i'll probably post a thread about that. it's good info i think.

[zildjian]

here's more info mga bossing.

http://www.mercola.com/2003/nov/8/thyroid_health.htm

excerpt....

Traditionally, polyunsaturated oils such as soybean oil have been used for livestock feed because they cause the animals to gain weight. These oils are made up of what is known as long chain fatty acids--the kind of fatty acids that promote weight gain. 4

Coconut oil, on the other hand, is a saturated fat made up primarily of medium chain fatty acids. Also known as medium chain triglycerides (MCTs), medium chain fatty acids are known to increase metabolism and promote weight loss. Coconut oil can also raise basal body temperatures while increasing metabolism. This is good news for people who suffer with low thyroid function.

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Several studies have shown that MCTs promote weight loss. One study showed that rats fed long chain fatty acids (LCTs) stored body fat, while rats fed MCTs reduced body fat and improved insulin sensitivity and glucose tolerance... 5 In March 2003, this same journal published findings that medium-chain triglycerides increase energy expenditure and decrease adiposity in overweight men. The study was conducted with twenty-four healthy, overweight men with body mass indexes between 25 and 31 kg/m. They consumed diets rich in MCT or LCT for 28 days, each in a crossover randomized controlled trial. Those consuming MCTs lost more weight and had more energy than those consuming LCTs (in this case olive oil).

An earlier study in 2002, The Journal of Nutrition came to the same conclusion. They reported that MCTs are more readily oxidized in the liver than LCTs, which leads to more energy and less weight gain. The study concluded that MCTs increase energy expenditure, may result in faster satiety, and facilitate weight control when included in the diet as a replacement for fats containing LCTs.

[theveed]

ang mga stupid claims like yung sa TV about yung oil... langhiya, pritong manok padin ang linuto pero ok lang dahil may omega 3 o 6 yung oil...

in the end, your consumption of oil and how you use it will dictate your health anyway. if you eat a lot of bad food cooked in good oil, it wont mean squat.

mga usual "testimonies" after using supplement is caused by a change in diet habits. Which may or may not include the use of healthier ingredients.

[zildjian]

hehe... stupid nga. deep pride chicken???...

yung omega 6 marami yata source sa mga pagkain pero yung omega 3 ay mahirap. i believe tuna is one source and fish/cod oil. i don't know if century tuna is still a good source though. point is cooking oil is not a good source of omega 6/3. at yung omega 9 naman sa canola na may puso pa ay misleading yata.

[theveed]

sobra hehe... sarap batukan yung nagisip nun.