Typhoon YOLANDA (Haiyan)

[badkuk]

Imho na shellshock yan. Doesn't matter if you're a general or a private, if it hits you, better step back and let someone take over.

[Retz]

ano nga pala ang 'storm surge' sa wikang tagalog?

[prince777]

I was not surprised kung bakit humaba ma yung topic na ito ng ganun kabilis, nagbabangayan na naman pala mga tsikoteers...

Ang masasabi ko lang ay maraming salamat sa mga tumulong at patuloy na tumutulong..salamat din sa mga patuloy na pumipintas sa mga nagsisikap tumulong..

Ipinanganak ako sa eastern samar at nakapag-asawa ng taga Leyte..Tacloban ang nagsilbing tahanan sa loob ng mahigit limang taon noung akoy nag-aaral at nakapagtrabaho..bawat iskinita sa syudad na ito ay nakatatak sa aking ala-ala at napakasakit isipin ang sinapit nito...nalibot ko ang buong isla ng samar at leyte at marami rami rin akong isla na narating..Kahit sa ordinaryong panahon ay hindi madali mapuntahan ang mga ito, lalo pa kaya sa oras ng kalamidad..

Instead of barking on a wall, why not open your lips and clasp your palms in your chest and pray for those who died and striving to survive...i still believe that prayers make miracles..my family and relatives were spared..

Ha ngatanan nga nagpaabot hin bulig ano man nga klase ngan pag-ampo, damo nga salamat haiyo, an Ginoo magbalos haiyo.(For all those who etended their help of any kind and offered their prayers, thank you very much. God will bless you!)

TINDOG LEYTENOS! TINDOG SAMARNON!


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[ClaNker]

ano nga pala ang 'storm surge' sa wikang tagalog?

Tidal wave daw sabi nung Mayor at yung isang di nag evacuate. Di daw kasi nila maintindihan ang storm surge dapat tidal wave na lang daw.

bagyo paggulong ng alon = storm surge. Tidal wave na lang.

[ClaNker]

Imho na shellshock yan. Doesn't matter if you're a general or a private, if it hits you, better step back and let someone take over.

Indeed. Stress debriefing na lang muna sya.

[uls]

ano nga pala ang 'storm surge' sa wikang tagalog?

wala

wala naman din tagalog ang tsunami pero ang pinoy takot sa tsunami

eto example

Nov 12 lang ito

Tsunami-scare triggers panic in Calbayog City | Inquirer News

MANILA, Philippines – Following the devastation caused by super typhoon “Yolanda” (international name Haiyan), residents of Calbayog City on Tuesday panicked and fled their homes after hearing rumors that a tsunami will hit the city, Radyo Inquirer 990AM said.

Radio reporter Ricky Brozas said his relatives from Calbayog City in Samar, among the hardest-hit areas by the typhoon, reported people running towards higher ground.

“People are out on the roads, carrying their possessions and heading towards higher ground,” he said.

On Twitter, netizens were asking government agencies if the tsunami alert was true.

One user asked the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs), “In Calbayog City, Western Samar. There’s report of tsunamis and vehicles w/ sirens are now patrolling, alerting everyone.”

Phivolcs later posted, “As of 1:00 PM November 12, 2013, Phivolcs did not issue a tsunami warning for Samar or for any other part of the country. No threat of tsunami exists for the Philippines as of the time of release of this message.”

At the height of typhoon “Yolanda,” storm surges at least 5 meters high ravaged affected coastal areas. People likened the storm surge to a tsunami, engulfing houses and other structures in its path.

eto kahapon lang

One dead in false tsunami alert | Manila Bulletin | Latest Breaking News | News Philippines

GENERAL SANTOS CITY – A 49 year-old woman died due to a heart attack after a false tsunami alert along the coastal areas in this city and nearby Sarangani province.

Rene Punzalan, Sarangani provincial disaster risk reduction management officer, said Maria Luisa Robles, whose husband, Mario, works at the provincial capitol, succumbed to heart stroke after residents in Barangay Kawas, a coastal village in Alabel town scampered in panic following reports of a tsunami circulated in the area at dawn Saturday.

Punzalan said residents within the coastal areas of the province had panicked after they noticed an unusual occurrence of a low tide of the sea water on Friday.

Due to this phenomenon, scary text messages of a possible tsunami had circulated which prompted villagers in the coastal areas of the province to panic and evacuate.

Sarangani officials said the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs) denied it had issued a tsunami alert within Sarangani Bay.

“We had inquired with the Philvolcs officials in Manila who told us that there was no veracity on a possible tsunami to hit Sarangani province,” Gov. Steve Solon said.

The governor said Phivolcs confirmed a moderate tectonic movements within the area of responsibility of Indonesia but it will not trigger a tsunami.

He said residents in the province were just reacting adversely to such reports of a possible tsunami, though unconfirmed, following the deadly devastation wrought by Supertyphoon Yoland in central Visayas region.

pero pag sinabi mo "storm surge" WALANG KWENTA

[badkuk]

Nobody anticipate how bad it was gonna get, but I have trouble accepting the excuse that they didn't understand what a storm surge was, so they weren't prepared.

- if they didn't understand what it was, they(LGUs) should have sought clarification, then explained it to the people in terms they can understand, not just brush it off as some meaningless jargon.

- i just googled what a storm surge is, took me less than a minute. (Wikipedia: A storm surge is an offshore rise of water associated with a low pressure weather system, typically tropical cyclones and strong extratropical cyclones.)
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- we've known for days that this was a big storm. We didn't need for CNN to call it a CAT5 storm. Winds of up to 230-250kph, hitting some provinces that are surrounded by water on all sides, no natural structure to break the windforce? It's not the first time we've had a typhoon with 230-250kph winds btw.

[uls]

even if it's not a real tsunami but if people were told it would be similar to a tsunami they would have taken it more seriously

Tsunami, not storm surge in Samar town?

Tsunami, not storm surge in Samar town? | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

BASEY, Samar, Philippines – Last week at the height of monster howler Yolanda, the heavy rain suddenly stopped and the wind died down in this fishing town facing the Pacific Ocean.

In the eerie stillness, townsfolk saw the sea recede by about half a kilometer, living fish flopping on the seabed. There was an explosive boom, and then they saw a wall of water about 10 feet high, like a dark storm cloud, roaring toward shore.

The first powerful wave crashed into the fishing village, followed by three more, washing away people, houses, the town auditorium and plaza. As of yesterday, local officials reported that the confirmed death toll in the town stood at 190, with at least 39 missing.

Basey residents believe they were hit by a tsunami rather than a storm surge, which devastated Tacloban City when Yolanda battered the Visayas last week with wind speeds up to 315 kilometers per hour. There was no tsunami warning for Yolanda.

Townsfolk lament that Basey is not even on the map of disaster relief officials.

Edgar dela Cruz, 45, of Barangay Mercado, recounted to The STAR the sight of what looked like a tsunami. During the strange lull in the typhoon, he went out of his house. Jinamok Island was a kilometer across the sea from his village, he said. The sea receded about halfway to the island.

“There was a kind of low black cloud moving toward us,” Dela Cruz said. “We heard a loud boom, like an explosion. And then we saw the giant waves… four giant waves… it was horrible.”

Their house was destroyed. He said he and his family escaped “with only the clothes on our back.”

Councilor Mansueto Delovino, a former mayor of Basey, said many others told similar stories of the apparent tsunami.

“The destruction was caused not so much by the wind but by the wave,” said Delovino, whose two-story house near the beach and town plaza was also destroyed.

Councilor Honesto Zeta said Basey was in dire need of help and relief assistance.

Mayor Egmidio “Junji” Ponferrada said that of the town’s 51 barangays, 19 were severely affected by the typhoon and more than 7,000 households need immediate relief assistance.

He said the first relief aid from the national government arrived only yesterday morning, when the Department of Social Welfare and

Development (DSWD) distributed about 4,880 food packs.

“It was not enough,” Ponferrada said.

Zeta’s daughter Hazel Zeta-Dy Tioco, a multinational pharmaceutical executive, is one of the Basey natives living in Manila who are lobbying for aid to be immediately sent to the town, pointing out that Basey has suffered as much as Tacloban City in Leyte.

“Basey is not even in the crisis map drawn up by the NDRRMC to identify priority areas for relief goods,” Dy Tioco said, referring to the National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council.

Dy Tioco has purchased basic necessities and asked friends and relatives in Manila to donate relief goods through The Philippine Star’s humanitarian arm, Operation Damayan. The STAR team arrived in Basey yesterday.

[ClaNker]

wala

wala naman din tagalog ang tsunami pero ang pinoy takot sa tsunami

eto example

Nov 12 lang ito

Tsunami-scare triggers panic in Calbayog City | Inquirer News




eto kahapon lang

One dead in false tsunami alert | Manila Bulletin | Latest Breaking News | News Philippines




pero pag sinabi mo "storm surge" WALANG KWENTA

So tidal wave na lang ang dapat ginamit?

[badkuk]

Tsunami, tidal wave, storm surge, whatever. That's a CAT5 typhoon bearing down on you, any guesses what the seas are gonna do?

[uls]

most people arent as well educated and well informed as people here in tsikot

we know what a storm surge is

we know what Cat 5 is

pero walang meaning ang "storm surge" and "Cat 5" sa mga tao elementary lang ang natapos

but pinoys know about the Indonesia and Japan tsunami (lalo na Japan which is more recent)

everybody saw it on TV

everybody understands "tsunami"

storm surge?

wala yan

Cat 5?

ano yan

[uls]

salitang "tsunami" palang inatake na sa puso

i bet pag sinabi mo "storm surge" hindi aatakehin yan hehe

[ClaNker]

even if it's not a real tsunami but if people were told it would be similar to a tsunami they would have taken it more seriously

Tsunami, not storm surge in Samar town?

Tsunami, not storm surge in Samar town? | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

No more excuses.

Javier, Leyte also battered by 'Yolanda'

MANILA -- Javier town in Leyte was also devastated by typhoon Yolanda that left at least 3 people dead.

The mayor said that they implemented preemptive evacuation days before the typhoon hit. He also threatened to arrest and put to jail residents who don't want to cooperate.

"True enough, if they didn't leave, patay sila dun."

May utak tong si Mayor kunti lang namatay sa constituents nya. Di tulad ni Romualdez at yung isang Mayor na nag sabing Tidal Wave daw ang dapat na sinabi ng Pag-asa.

[badkuk]

Maybe they should have clarified with PAGASA, then explained it to the people. Or like i said, just a matter of googling the term, the telling people hey, wag nyo ismolin to kahit di nyo alam kung anoing ibig sabihin.

Imho, a technical/scientific body like PAGASA should be objective about the terms they use. If they exaggerate or downplay it, sampal yan sa reputation nila.

And...sory na po sa pangungulit, this is a storm with 230, 250kph winds. That fact should have stood out above all. Things will get messed up bad.

[uls]

So tidal wave na lang ang dapat ginamit?

kung sinabi ni Kim Atienza sa TV Patrol "magkakaroon ng alon na parang tsunami" that will put fear in people

isipin mo pati yung mayor ng tacloban naglipas ng Cat 5 na bagyo sa beachfront resort

what was he thinking?

sigurado he was only expecting very strong wind and rain thinking his concrete shelter can withstand it

pati siya di niya alam ano ang storm surge

[ClaNker]

Maybe they should have clarified with PAGASA, then explained it to the people. Or like i said, just a matter of googling the term, the telling people hey, wag nyo ismolin to kahit di nyo alam kung anoing ibig sabihin.

Imho, a technical/scientific body like PAGASA should be objective about the terms they use. If they exaggerate or downplay it, sampal yan sa reputation nila.

And...sory na po sa pangungulit, this is a storm with 230, 250kph winds. That fact should have stood out above all. Things will get messed up bad.

Regular ang education campaign ng pag-asa sa mga LGU.

Education campaigns conducted

Monteverde clarified that information and education campaigns (IEC) were regularly conducted with local government units. Terms that PAGASA used in its weather forecasts were explained extensively in these IECs.

But, she said, local government units sometimes sent to their IECs officials or employees who are not directly involved in disaster risk management.

"We are conducting the IEC in the local government. But after the IEC, participants should transfer the information down to the barangay level because that's our agreement," she said.

Topics during the IECs include storm surge, flood, tropical cyclone, among others.

Ayaw lang talagang mag trabaho ng maayos ng mga LGU at saksakan pa ng bobo.

Palusot na lang yang "tsunami" na yan, para lang may maituro ang daliri ng LGU. Ok naman si Mayor Javier, may utak kaya kunti lang casualty nya.

[ClaNker]

kung sinabi ni Kim Atienza sa TV Patrol "magkakaroon ng alon na parang tsunami" that will put fear in people

isipin mo pati yung mayor ng tacloban naglipas ng Cat 5 na bagyo sa beachfront resort

what was he thinking?

sigurado he was only expecting very strong wind and rain thinking his concrete shelter can withstand it

pati siya di niya alam ano ang storm surge

Seriously? Bugok yang si Romualdez. Kasalanan pa ba ni Kim Atienza kabobohan ni Romualdez?

[Retz]

hope others will follow....

[uls]

yes we educated tsikot pips know 200+ kph winds are scary stong

we can imagine what the damage 200+ kph winds can cause

because we have imagination

to people who stopped going to school after grade 3 warning them of 200+ kph winds that has no meaning

coz those people have no imagination

[badkuk]

Pero sir uls, they live along the coast, and nakaranas na siguro sila ng bagyo, regardless of formal education