And the Telecom War is on...

[silver_corolla]

[SIZE=4]Sun’s Early Recapitulation[/SIZE]

It’s a pity that consumers who are paying for an overpriced service may not benefit for long from this so-called "price war." Many of Sun Cellular’s subscribers may not be aware that the P250 rate that goes with the 24/7 promo will most likely be hiked to P350 soon.

The reason is simple. As Sun achieves its target two million subscriber base, it will now focus on improving its profitability. After serving notice of its presence and holding in its pocket a good number of hooked subscribers, the pesky "pain in the neck" may now be more receptive to play along with the giants and share in the juicy profit pie.

And this is the real challenge for NTC: to protect the consumers against price fixing complicity among "friendly" competitors.

[BlueBimmer]

upgrade na dpat sun!! tagal naman!

[cyberdoc95]

[SIZE=4]Sun’s Early Recapitulation[/SIZE]

It’s a pity that consumers who are paying for an overpriced service may not benefit for long from this so-called "price war." Many of Sun Cellular’s subscribers may not be aware that the P250 rate that goes with the 24/7 promo will most likely be hiked to P350 soon.

The reason is simple. As Sun achieves its target two million subscriber base, it will now focus on improving its profitability. After serving notice of its presence and holding in its pocket a good number of hooked subscribers, the pesky "pain in the neck" may now be more receptive to play along with the giants and share in the juicy profit pie.

And this is the real challenge for NTC: to protect the consumers against price fixing complicity among "friendly" competitors.

And I really thought NTC's concern was more on the quality of service(success call rate, 15-minute automatic call cut-off, etc) and not about the pricing!

[mazdamazda]

Well, just like I said in an earlier post, this will be a three way gridlock in the end where these three telco companies will lock the prices, and equally share the market. Sun is increasing thier rates...Globe and Smart are joing the price war... it will eventually level off at a rate where all three are happy...and we subscribers are back to square one, facing this time a tri-poly. :-)

Sun is increasing their rates?

Sun is charging lower... P6.25 / minute for local calls... and $.30 / minute for IDD.

[mazdamazda]

[SIZE=4]Sun’s Early Recapitulation[/SIZE]

It’s a pity that consumers who are paying for an overpriced service may not benefit for long from this so-called "price war." Many of Sun Cellular’s subscribers may not be aware that the P250 rate that goes with the 24/7 promo will most likely be hiked to P350 soon.

The reason is simple. As Sun achieves its target two million subscriber base, it will now focus on improving its profitability. After serving notice of its presence and holding in its pocket a good number of hooked subscribers, the pesky "pain in the neck" may now be more receptive to play along with the giants and share in the juicy profit pie.

And this is the real challenge for NTC: to protect the consumers against price fixing complicity among "friendly" competitors.

how can you say it's a price war when you are comparing unlimited CTU services to the per use charging of the others?

[kiper]

[SIZE=4]Sun’s Early Recapitulation[/SIZE]

It’s a pity that consumers who are paying for an overpriced service may not benefit for long from this so-called "price war." Many of Sun Cellular’s subscribers may not be aware that the P250 rate that goes with the 24/7 promo will most likely be hiked to P350 soon.

The reason is simple. As Sun achieves its target two million subscriber base, it will now focus on improving its profitability. After serving notice of its presence and holding in its pocket a good number of hooked subscribers, the pesky "pain in the neck" may now be more receptive to play along with the giants and share in the juicy profit pie.

And this is the real challenge for NTC: to protect the consumers against price fixing complicity among "friendly" competitors.

Okay nga un eh! Kahit gawin nilang 500, okay pa rin samin mga consumers!

Kapag tinaas nila presyo..gaganda na rin ang service. At pwede din mabawasan ang bibili kasi tumaas presyo..hehe mababawasan na rin ang congestion.

Eh ang Smart? Imbis na magbaba ng presyo dati..ginawa pang flat rate ang calls, tinanggal ung off-peak rates.. Wala man lang nakaangal.

Pero ngayon sa SUN..kung kelan binabaan ang presyo saka sandamukal na mga duwag ang nagsipag-inartehan..bwahahaha

Btw..I'm a Smart Subscriber..but I'm not currently using it. Hintayin ko sila mag-24/7 din.

Tama na mga cry babies. Nuff said.

[mazdamazda]

DMPI fights back...

NTC asked to dismiss case vs Sun Cellular
By Maryann Ll. Reyes
The Philippine Star 03/07/2005

Gokongwei-owned Digitel Mobile Philippines Inc. (DMPI) has asked the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) to deny for lack or merit the complaints filed by Globe’s Innove Communications and Smart’s Pilipino Telephone Inc. or Piltel against Sun Cellular’s 24/7 call and text unlimited offering.

DMPI, in its answer to Innove and Piltel’s complaints, accusing the two of not having the legal standing to complain, considering that they do not have the required franchise to operate a cellular mobile telephone system (CMTS).

Digital Telecommunications senior vice-president William Pamintuan likewise stressed that with Globe’s Touch Mobile offering its own call and text unlimited offering for P300 and with Piltel to follow suit, the issue has become moot and academic.

The NTC is scheduled to meet with representatives of Innove today (Monday) and Piltel tomorrow to hear their respective arguments, together with DMPI’s own defense, after which the commission will have to decide whether or not to grant the two complainants’ petition to have DMPI’s offering permanently enjoined due to discriminatory and unfair competition practices.

NTC deputy commissioner Jorge Sarmiento earlier told The STAR that they will also have to verify claims by Innove and Piltel that the service standards of Sun Cellular are below that required by the commission, violation of which will merit either suspension or revocation of Sun’s authority to operate.

DMPI noted that it is Isla Communications, the former subsidiary of Globe Telecom, and not Innove which has the congressional franchise. It alleged that there is no showing that Islacom secured prior congressional approval to transfer or assign its franchise to or merge with Innove.

It added that assuming that Innove was authorized by the NTC to operate a CMTS, said authority is void for having been issued to an entity that does not have the requisite congressional franchise to install, operate, and maintain telecommunications systems and services in the country.

Last Aug. 7, 2003, the NTC approved the legal transfer of Islacom’s wireless or landline business, authorizations, assets, properties, and obligations to Globe. Then on Aug. 25, 2003, Innove officially came into corporate existence as the new Islacom, DMPI claimed.

The operator of Sun Cellular likewise noted that contrary to Innove’s claim that it operates and maintains the Touch Mobile brand, the TM brand is actually owned, operated, and maintained by Globe.

"Since Innove is actually in the landline and wireline data business which is a totally different business from Sun’s mobile phone business, therefore Innove cannot possibly suffer injury from and have a cause of action for predatory pricing against Sun’s 24/7 call and text unlimited service," DMPI said.

As to charges or predatory pricing, DMPI noted that NTC did not set a minimum but only a maximum rate for allowable Digitel-to-Digitel calls and texts. "The fact that NTC did not set a floor on Digitel’s CMTS rates only shows that in its reasonable assessment, there was no threat of a monopoly or combination in restraint of trade or ruinous competition or rate distortion which would result in the public becoming adversely affected," it said.

The Gokongwei mobile unit likewise stressed that rates for CMTS are now deregulated under NTC Memorandum Circular no. 13-6-2000 with the lapse of the temporary restraining order issued by the Quezon City Regional Trial

Court and without any injunction having been subsequently issued.

It was also noted in DMPI’s answer that Innove’s complaint is a desperate attempt by the latter to muddle the real issued based on Paptelco and PT&T’s complaint against Innove’s toll-free service.

Similar arguments were raised by DMPI in relation to Piltel’s complaint, which the latter claimed are baseless.

Piltel noted that it has complied with all the regulatory requirements in order to provide mobile phone services using Smart’s GSM network.

It pointed out that Piltel’s authority to install, maintain and operate, purchase, manage, or in this case lease telecom facilities is explicitly stipulated in its legislative franchise (Sec. 16 of RA 6030).

In line with this, it said then NTC commissioner Joseph Santiago informed Piltel in his letter dated March 28, 2000 that "the NTC finds the planned implementation of the facilities service agreement (where Piltel will use a portion of Smart’s GSM network and facilities in order for Piltel to be able to offer GSM-based CMTS services) to be compliant with existing rules and regulations."

This communication was in response to Piltel’s letter of March 24, 2000 informing the NTC that Smart and Piltel entered into a facilities service agreement wherein Smart agreed to provide the necessary facilities and equipment to allow Piltel to offer GSM technology-based CMTS services.

[5Speed]

daanin na lang nila sa boksing yan....herherherher

[silver_corolla]

[SIZE=4]Globe urges NTC to issue CDO vs Sun Cellular’s 24/7 service[/SIZE]
Sun has violated the service performance standard requirements of the NTC.

Mary Ann Ll. Reyes
The Philippine Star

Globe Subsidiary Innove Communications is urging the National Telecommunication Commission (NTC) to immediately issue a cease-and-desist order against Sun’s 24/7 call and text unlimited service, saying that Sun has violated the service performance standard requirements of the NTC.

During yesterday’s hearing before the NTC on the case filed by Innove against Sun operator Digitel Mobile Phils. Inc. (DMPI) for predatory and discriminatory pricing in its call and text unlimited service for P250 offering, Innove presented the results of a quarterly network quality benchmarking drive done not only on Globe’s network but to measure its compliance with said NTC circular but also to test that of other operators for purposes of benchmarking.

Globe Telecom said a drive test conducted by its engineers disclosed that competitor Sun Cellular has violated the service performance standard requirements of the NTC.

But Sun is now calling on the NTC to "revisit" its requirements to see if the standards are still applicable. "Since Globe’s Touch Mobile has decided to similarly offer a call and text unlimited service, the NTC may want to look at the possibility of having a separate set of standards for this kind of service. A new paradigm has emerged and obviously, there is a market for it. It is the customers who will have to eventually decide," Digital Telecommunications Phils. senior vice president William Pamintuan said.

The NTC under its memorandum circular 07-06-2002 defined grade of service (GOS) is the measure of the probability that during a specified period of peak traffic, usually the busy hour, call offered a group of trunks and circuits will fail to find an idle circuit at the first attempt.

The drop call rate (DCR), meanwhile, is the ratio of calls that are irregularly terminated to the total number of calls made during the measurement period.

The commission under the same circular requires cellular operators to maintain a GOS of seven percent and an allowable drop call rate (DCR) of five percent. Cellular operators are encouraged to improve the GOS by one percent and DCR by one percent every two years until the GOS is four percent and the DCR is two percent.

Globe and Innove maintain a GOS of 1.97 percent and a DCR of 1.68 percent, Globe wireless network master planning head Emmanuel Estrada said in his affidavit submitted to the NTC.

According to Estrada, a drive test conducted by his team of Globe engineers in January this year showed that Sun had a GOS of 35.4 percent for a 14-hour average and at one particular busy hour (8 to 9 p.m.), the GOS even reached 87 percent. Sun meanwhile registered a DCR of 5.09 percent for a 14-hour average and at a particularly busy hour (8-9 p.m.), it was 14.29 percent.

He said that based on previous drive test exercises conducted before the introduction of Sun’s 24/7 promo, Sun’s DCR performance was within the standard in the first year of operation until September 2004, the 24/7 service was launched in October last year.

[5Speed]

hehehe and going....and going....and going....

parang eberedi bateri....herherherherher

[mazdamazda]

wow... Sun subscribers are so lucky... Globe is even looking after their welfare...

[BlueBimmer]

mga mare at pare, idebate nalang iyan!

[av8or5]

The best part is, it's the consumer who will benefit from this. You have more choices. Hope this also happens to oil companies.

[Juan Tamad]

[SIZE=4]Globe urges NTC to issue CDO vs Sun Cellular’s 24/7 service[/SIZE]
Sun has violated the service performance standard requirements of the NTC.

Mary Ann Ll. Reyes
The Philippine Star

Globe Subsidiary Innove Communications is urging the National Telecommunication Commission (NTC) to immediately issue a cease-and-desist order against Sun’s 24/7 call and text unlimited service, saying that Sun has violated the service performance standard requirements of the NTC.

During yesterday’s hearing before the NTC on the case filed by Innove against Sun operator Digitel Mobile Phils. Inc. (DMPI) for predatory and discriminatory pricing in its call and text unlimited service for P250 offering, Innove presented the results of a quarterly network quality benchmarking drive done not only on Globe’s network but to measure its compliance with said NTC circular but also to test that of other operators for purposes of benchmarking.

Globe Telecom said a drive test conducted by its engineers disclosed that competitor Sun Cellular has violated the service performance standard requirements of the NTC.

But Sun is now calling on the NTC to "revisit" its requirements to see if the standards are still applicable. "Since Globe’s Touch Mobile has decided to similarly offer a call and text unlimited service, the NTC may want to look at the possibility of having a separate set of standards for this kind of service. A new paradigm has emerged and obviously, there is a market for it. It is the customers who will have to eventually decide," Digital Telecommunications Phils. senior vice president William Pamintuan said.

The NTC under its memorandum circular 07-06-2002 defined grade of service (GOS) is the measure of the probability that during a specified period of peak traffic, usually the busy hour, call offered a group of trunks and circuits will fail to find an idle circuit at the first attempt.

The drop call rate (DCR), meanwhile, is the ratio of calls that are irregularly terminated to the total number of calls made during the measurement period.

The commission under the same circular requires cellular operators to maintain a GOS of seven percent and an allowable drop call rate (DCR) of five percent. Cellular operators are encouraged to improve the GOS by one percent and DCR by one percent every two years until the GOS is four percent and the DCR is two percent.

Globe and Innove maintain a GOS of 1.97 percent and a DCR of 1.68 percent, Globe wireless network master planning head Emmanuel Estrada said in his affidavit submitted to the NTC.

According to Estrada, a drive test conducted by his team of Globe engineers in January this year showed that Sun had a GOS of 35.4 percent for a 14-hour average and at one particular busy hour (8 to 9 p.m.), the GOS even reached 87 percent. Sun meanwhile registered a DCR of 5.09 percent for a 14-hour average and at a particularly busy hour (8-9 p.m.), it was 14.29 percent.

He said that based on previous drive test exercises conducted before the introduction of Sun’s 24/7 promo, Sun’s DCR performance was within the standard in the first year of operation until September 2004, the 24/7 service was launched in October last year.

Weird, si Globe ng issue ng cease-and-desist order against Sun’s 24/7 but they launch there own 24/7 through Touch Mobile. Swapang nila.

[mazdamazda]

The best part is, it's the consumer who will benefit from this. You have more choices. Hope this also happens to oil companies.

yup... sana mag 24/7 na rin ang Globe...

[rsnald]

haba na pala nitong thread na to...
pero side ako sa sun.... pure and simple greed lang yung sa SMART and Globe.

and let's not forget... SMART and Globe does'nt even want to comply with the
6 sec pulse charging for voice calls that was ordered by the NTC way back 1999 pa yata yun... I heard on the radio someone in congress will revive this issue.
dito lang yata sa pinas implemented yung per minute charging ang voice calls.

tsk tsk tsk... goes to show what companies will do to protect their selfish interest...also goes to show how impotent the NTC is.

[Supierreman]

ano na ba meron dito? battle of the quoted articles? lol

[silver_corolla]

:sleep: ilang tulog na lang....

[BlueBimmer]

ilang 2log nalang para sa???

[CaRGirL]

[SIZE=2] ilang tulog na lang daw pababagsakin daw nila ang SUN...








... GOOD LUCK!! [/SIZE]