malaki ba talaga effect kung saan ka nagtapos

[CLAVEL3699]

hayyy...

sori guys but di ko gusto nangyari sa akin last week. Im applying for a job in makati nung nalaman kung saan ako school nagtapos nang college hindi na ako masyado ininterview, nagsend naman ako nang application at tinawagan ako for interview.

Im applying for management position but I have a masteral degree of a different school.

Kailangan ba talaga nasa top 5 school ka graduate to land a job...

[_Qwerty_]

ano ba yung school mo?? hindi ako naniniwala na kailangan sa top school ka graduate para matanggap ka sa trabaho..

sabi mo eh management position ang ni apply-an mo?? sa palagay ko sa posisyong ganyan ay yung experience ang tinitingnan nang mga employers.

[CLAVEL3699]

Yes its management position and I have extensive experience for 10yrs na.

PUP. Kala ko nga noon lang ganyan. kasi nangyari sa akin nung fresh graduate ako.

I belong to the top of my class nung college but I cant land a job noon pagkasabay ko ang mga top school thats why I take up my masters sa isang top school.

Nung sinabi ko graduate ako nang college in this school hindi na ako tinanong pa masyado sa experience ko.

[mazdamazda]

In the IT field, not really... as long as you have the right skillset & attitude.

I hired my supervisor w/o even giving a second thought that she finished in a college in the province. I am also in the process of hiring another staff w/o even asking where she graduated.

[CLAVEL3699]

siguro kanya kanya prorogative yan. Hindi lahat.

nagkataon lang siguro na nakatagpo ako nang HR Manager na mas gusto yun.

[_Qwerty_]

I"m sure hindi yang school mo ang dahilan.. baka may hinahanap silang qualities or baka naman may nakita na sila.. madaming pwedeng dahilan.. don't blame your school..

I know a lot of graduates from PUP that are in upper management pa nga.. lalo na sa IT.. meron nga akong alam... mga VP, CIO, directors of international companies from PUP..

BTW, I'm from PUP, batch 95.

Yes its management position and I have extensive experience for 10yrs na.

PUP. Kala ko nga noon lang ganyan. kasi nangyari sa akin nung fresh graduate ako.

I belong to the top of my class nung college but I cant land a job noon pagkasabay ko ang mga top school thats why I take up my masters sa isang top school.

Nung sinabi ko graduate ako nang college in this school hindi na ako tinanong pa masyado sa experience ko.

[CLAVEL3699]

I"m sure hindi yang school mo ang dahilan.. baka may hinahanap silang qualities or baka naman may nakita na sila.. madaming pwedeng dahilan.. don't blame your school..

I know a lot of graduates from PUP that are in upper management pa nga.. lalo na sa IT.. meron nga akong alam... mga VP, CIO, directors of international companies from PUP..

BTW, I'm from PUP, batch 95.

I know meron din ako mga kilala and Isa na ako dun nasa top management position na ako but hindi naging madali para sa akin marating ang kinalagyan ko. I have a job im just trying my luck for a better compensation and company.

Pero bro napakaliit ata nang percentage reality wise nang mga graduate nang PUP na umasenso sa trabaho.

Example nagkaroon kami nang reunion last xmas, most of my classmates are still staff position dalawa lang ata kami medyo maganda na position, yung iba naghahanap pa ata nang trabaho.

Im not blaming the school but the stigma of other people mas mataas ang tingin nila syo paggraduate ka sa Ateneo or la salle.

I gain that position hindi dahil sa graduate ako nang PUP but nag aral pa ako ulit at umaattend ako nang mga seminars to enhance my knowledge kasi kulang na kulang ang alam ko na tinuro sa akin nang PUP.

Dont know about your college department in PUP but yung sa amin school bukol talaga.

[niky]

I've had a lot of classmates that I didn't think were exactly the best there is, despite our school supposedly being the "best". (UP). A lot of it has to do with the applicants themselves.

But some people can't get over the name on the diploma. If the company that's hiring thinks that way, then it's their loss... they're missing out on lots of good people.

[_Qwerty_]

baka depende nga sa course.. so far ok naman yung yung course namin from PUP.. we're from the college of CCMIT pa noon.. BIT to be exact.

[CLAVEL3699]

baka depende nga sa course.. so far ok naman yung yung course namin from PUP.. we're from the college of CCMIT pa noon.. BIT to be exact.

More than 10yrs kana work?

I think so far so good para syo but noong nagsimula kaba madali ka ba nakahanap nang work? kasi isa sa nauna ang PUP mag introduce nang IT course noon.

[_Qwerty_]

more than 12 years na..

sa batch naman namin.. puro ok naman halos lahat.. maraming nasa abroad na.. marami rin namang naiwan dito.. kasama na ako.. yung ibang nandito iba't ibang fields na rin pinasok... marami na ring nasa management level..

[antiglenn]

hindi tol siguro nga hindi lang qualified yung requirements mo kaya hindi ka nila tinanggap, isipin mo na lang tol sila nawalan at hindi ikaw. gudluck sa future applications mo tol!

[VtEC]

nah.kahit grad kapa sa top 5 school sa pinas kung ang kasabay mo na nag aaply e mas maexperience say fresh grad ka ng top 5 school and kasabay mo for interview 50yrs na sa open position dika padin papasa sa akin.though may pogi points din pag grad ka ng top 5 schools but not all the time.depende padin sa taong nag aaply at sa taong nag iinterview.

[Bogeyman]

A lot of prospective employers are missing out on good people, since they fail to look beyond the school. Our current boss talks about his own frustration at not having passed the UPCAT, so he ended up graduating from an obscure university in Bicol. Pero naman, he went on to become an accomplished and respected advertising professional, at ngayon, VP na namin siya.

On my first job, I was accepted not because I was from UP (in fact, dalawa pa nga kaming taga-UP na nag-apply back then); I was accepted because part of my education was in a Catholic school. It was probably no surprise since the position was for an organization of Catholic educators.

Nung nag-apply na ako sa network, hindi naman ako natanggap agad, palagay ko kasi yung ibang applicants had more extensive, or relevant, experience than I did. Ngayon, looking back after 8 years, I'm still puzzled as to how exactly I ended up in my present job. Kasi naman, I had taken advertising only as an elective, at hindi pa kataasan ang grado na nakuha ko dun.

[jedi]

Clavell, PUP ka din pala?
PUP grad din ako ECE batch 2002, naranasan ko na din madiscriminate nang dahil sa school na pinanggalingan ko, my 1st job galing sa isang hamak na researcher i became the operations manager of a startup company pero nagkagulo sa loob coz nalampasan ko agad yung mga officemates ko na galing sa top schools, eh wala akong magagawa kasi napromote ako based on my performance and dedication, my 2nd job halos ganun din nangyari pero di ako napromote kasi napigilan ng isang tao sa taas na ayaw sakin im not sure kung dahil di ako kalevel ng school nya or what.


pero its true clavel, maliit talaga chances ang pagkakaroon ng magandang trabaho pag di ka pasok sa top schools, although may iba na nasa top positions from PUP and the like, maliit na percentage pa din yung siniswerte.

ganun talaga, nangyayari talaga ang mga bagay na ito.

[sea.piper]

Mahirap sumabay ang fresh graduate nang wala sa top 5 schools. Swerte mo na lang kung parehas kayo nang School nong mamimili nang applicants for interview.
Kung may kilala ka sa Company na papasukan...malaking factor yun.

Minsan naging Recruitment Coordinator ako sa isang recruitment agency.
Para mapabilis ang aking trabaho at pagpili ko sa more than 100 resumes na ma received ko...sa School ako tumitingin syempre with experience.

[Lucius]

Sir dapat sinabi mo I'm driving a better car than your boss (the interviewer's) hehehehe. Ung isang class namin namention ng prof na ganun daw talaga ngayon. Kaya swerte daw mga grads ng DLSU and even samin (CSB) kasi preferred daw ng mga companies na parang nasa priority list.

[GlennSter]

NO.

but there are companies talaga that are biased sa mga top 5 schools. although hindi naman lahat ganun.

[slyfox]

sorry but i've never been in a corporate setting. i'm just curious, who usually conducts the interviews? the management ba or the hrd people?

in my field kasi diplomas aren't of significance. experience pa rin ang hinahanap. which can sometimes be the chicken or the egg di ba. how can you get experience if you can't get hired coz of the lack of it.

i guess sa corporate setting di maiiwasan ang slight discrimination. parang toyota and honda yan e. people always see the brand and not the performance.

[mbeige]

NO.

but there are companies talaga that are biased sa mga top 5 schools. although hindi naman lahat ganun.

I second this reply. It probably just so happened na biased sila. Kahit sabihin nilang hindi biased, front lang yon para they would seem neutral pero behind closed doors ganyan ang ibang companies.