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  1. #1
    guyz,galz..

    gandang hapon sa inyung lahat...gusto ko marinig(mabasa..pla) ang insights nyo dito...

    itong hapon lang..nadinig ko kinakausap ng dad ko ung dad ng costumer namin dito sa shop...dun sa may hardware(naglagay kasi ng outlet si dadi sa tabi ng computeran ko)

    not meant to evesdrop(sadyang malakas lang magsalita si dadi,pero in their conversation,this is what boggles me..he said:

    ....ang anak ay di na dapat turuan,kasi nag-aral naman sila sa eskuelahan...

    ako as a son,nagulat...more ako nadisapoint sa kanya..kelangang di lumaki ang daugther ko sa ganyan,kaya gusto ko na bumukod..anywayz,kayo,ano sa tingin nyo..tama ba philosopiya ng dad ko?

    nga pala,computer gurus...anu mas makakasama sa pc:
    ordinaryong alikabok or alikabok ng cemento?

    kasi nilagay ni dadi mga cemento nya directly sa likod ng computers ko,separated by a thin,unsealed wooden divider..

    thanx po....gusto ko lang po maliwanagan...

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    I wouldn't let my kids trust their teachers more than me... you trust the schools to teach your kids the basics, but not to build character... that's something you have to do yourself...

    PS: Cement is the WORST kind of residue you can get on your electronics... Cement dust is more abrasive, intrusive, finer and more PERMANENT thank ordinary dust... move the computers to another room or cover them AND then remove those bags.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    [QUOTE=niky]I wouldn't let my kids trust their teachers more than me... you trust the schools to teach your kids the basics, but not to build character... that's something you have to do yourself...[QUOTE]

    amen to that

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    tama sila bro. Teach your kid descipline, and respect for elders, lots of kids today lack that.

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    ewan ko sa dad ko.....buti pa si mami...ayaw ko magisnan ng anak ko ganung character and the family(parents ko side) ko...lalo na ang bangayan ng mom and dad ko..sama pa bro ko na nakulam ata...suwail sa mom ko.

    lilipat na ko ito shop pagkatapos ng bahay na lilipatan namin....kaya siguro palaging sira ang cpus ko..and its programs.

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    dalasan mo na lang paglinis, and pag check.

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    ok.....hirap lang...alikabok na,buhangin and cement......tindi...

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    education starts at home ika nga.

    discipline that is the parents job.

    kaya ka nga naging magulang ikaw ang mag tutuwid sa landas ng anak mo, dahil ang mga bata sadyang maraming tukso sa kanila its up to you as a parent to build a strong foundation sa formative years nila para pag naging adult na sila hindi sila magiging salot ng society.

    example, kung meron kang nakitang batang di mo kaanoano nagtatampisaw sa maduming tubig or kumakain ng mga tinda sa tabi tabi sasawayin mo ba? pero kung anak mo yun ni ayaw mo ngang madapuan ng langaw e.

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    pahabol po.

    bumukod, pag meron ka nang sariling pamilya, ito amg dapat mong gawin kasi malilito ang bata, iba ang disiplina ng parents kesa sa grandparents o auntie uncle. (kaya lang mahirap talaga gawin lalo diyan sa atin, pwera na lang kung stable na stable ang income mo)

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    baka naman what ur dad meant was.... dahil the parents send their kids to a good school kahit nde na turuan ng magulang ok lang... (that is if he 's referring to education)..nah jez thinking aloud....

    but yeah, the best lesson you can learn is within the family. And buti nalang i have my mom to take care of that. i seldom see my dad at home.
    Your daughter sure is lucky to have you as a dad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ts1n1ta
    but yeah, the best lesson you can learn is within the family. And buti nalang i have my mom to take care of that. i seldom see my dad at home.
    Your daughter sure is lucky to have you as a dad.
    Where was your dad?

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    Narinig mo ba ang whole conversation nila? Minsan kasi pag hindi mo narinig ang buong conversation nila, madali ring magkaroon ng misinterpretation.

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    bro payong kaibigan lang...don't judge your dad by one statement, especially one that you just heard one part of, and you don't know the context of the conversation. ngayon kung disappointed ka sa kanya about many things in your life, ibang usapan yan.

    and about setting an example for your daughter - it's good na bumukod ka na since may sariling pamilya ka na. show her that being independent (even if it's hard) is the right thing to do, and it's not right to still rely on your parents even when you're all grown up.

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    well,its not hard to hear them talking...kasi they just less than 3 meters from the counter in our shop...(kasi magkatapat lang mga counter namin..)kaya i've heard them all...

    well,since i'm 2 or 3...he spent his life in saudi...mga 6 or 7 y.o nlang di siya bumalik dun..pero up until then,ngayon lang nakikilala father ko..hangang ngayon,he just love to make money...not minding us(me,mom,my bro and sis)...he never let us in his decisions, dont even know what we want..and i cant make him sama to us na di siya maiinis esp. pag nandun na kami sa place...1/2 of my mom's life ay umasang magbago dad namin...pero suko na ngayon...

    my bro,ewan ko..inaway at pinagsalitaan ang mom ko kasi ayaw namin pokpoking babae na kinakasama nya...ayun umalis pumuntang bohol para makita ang babaeng un..at take note,alam nila dad at bro ko na buntis ang pokpok,pero masaklap dun alam nilang di anak ng bro at dad ko walang ginawa para maituwid kapatid ko...

    naiinis ako sa dad ko..kung siya gagastos,ok lang..pero sa pamilya,di daw pwede,kesyo walang pera...pero malaman-laman naming nagbibid agad ng mga fork-lift,bulok na ref,gen,etc....ni nga pang grocery ginigipit nya!everything is UTANG NA LOOB SA KANYA..kaya gusto makatapos na di siya magtutustos ng pag-aaral ko para di niyang masabi na pera nya..na dahil sa kanya kaya ako natapos...

    now he decides to stay sa baras...ngayon kasi si mami na nagrurun sa hardware,noon..di pwede ganito/ganyang gastos,pero ngayon...halos every 5 mins, pagawa dito,pagawa duon...gastusan dito..pabili dito..hay....galit pa pag di nasunod..tapos pinagkakalat pang wala na siyang trabaho,kesyo inagaw na daw ni mami kabuhayan nya..take note.."nya"

    lalo na sis ko...malalim galit sa kanya...minsan mukang naiingit siya sa anak ko,kaklase nya...kasi diba,siguro naman,only daugther mo,bunso pa...siyempre gusto mo bigay lahat..siya hindi...ni nga ang simpleng pagsundo sa kanya sangdamukal na sermon gagawin nya,tapos,kun di ka nya makita in just 1 min, biglaang uuwi yan..

    wala ni isang pagkakataong nagmalling kaming 5 na di siya biglang nawawala at mukang enjoy kasama kami..nag-hongkong,thailand,singapore tour kami..wala siyang ginastos mom ko lang lahat in a hope magak-ayusan pa kami...pero hindi...lalong lumala kasi nagaway din si dad at sis ko...

    he's packing na...mga next week siguro aalis na siya..parang buhay binata parin siya..di nya naiisip na 26 years na may asawa siya....

    sorry,ha...sumama lang loob ko sa mga sinabi nya kahapon sa tatay ng costumer namin...minsan din...ayaw ko pakita kay mami na sweet kaming mag-asawa..parang may part kasing naiingit siya...

    at nga pala..my dad told this infront of me,right in my face:
    SAN KA NAGMANA?DI GANYAN ANG LAHI NG ______.....
    parang galit siyang nagmana ako sa side ng mom ko..voice lang kami pareho..pero dun lang.

    more i want to be independent,eventhough i live will be in a different house in the same compound..

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    hay... how sad naman... pero dapat ndi ka pa ren magtanim ng sama ng loob sa dad ko kasi nga tulad ng lage nilang sinasabe, kahit baliktaren mundo, dad mo pa din siya...

    you know what, dapat lalo mo i-shower ng affection mom mo para naman pampalubag-loob sa lahat ng sama ng loob na nakuha niya from your dad... and you should learn from your dad's mistakes and strive hard to be a better daddy to your kiddos!

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    nga,e..for my daugther..ayaw ko namang ganito din....honestly,halos wala din kami ipon magaswa kasi lahat ng needs ng daugther ko binibigay ko... well, wala talaga ko magawa..magulang at mga kapatid ko sila...kahit ayaw ako mainvolve sa buhay ng bro and dad ko,no choice ako....pamiya ko,e...

    puro sama loob ni mami..kay para malibang hinahayaan ko nalang makichat nightly...makalimutan ang sama ng loob nya...kaya ko ganito,mom ko turo samin ng mga ganito..ewan ko ba bakit nagkaganun bro ko....di namin maintindihan kung nagkasayad,nagkatopak,nababaliw or sadyang kinulam ng pokpok na yun...

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    wow.... teka... alwayz_yummy, parang kinuwento mo buhay ko ah...

    we're almost the same, i swear. My dad den ganyan. BUHAY BINATA. And my mom spent her life praying and hoping and thinking na magbabago pa sha. (She's still hoping and praying and still thinking, btw) I grew up hating my dad, cuz i can't help it. He gives me reason to hate him. I grew up without any good memory with him. He was never really a dad. Although hindi sha nag abroad he was never really around. He thinks nothing but money. When we all had our talk (cuz my mom wants him to leave) he doesn't even want to talk about family matters, all he wanted to know is kung paano na ang company!? He even wants to divide the assets. Talk about not caring. If your dad is packing na, yung mom ko dito sha na mismo ang nagpack ng things ng dad ko.... Ngayon, since i'm working for my dad, we get along well (for business sake). Parang wala lang. Status-quo. Parang nde kame mag ama. yun na lang. My sister and my dad stopped talking to each other na den. Nagalit sister ko when my dad yelled at us and said "walang kwenta tong pamilyang to... they've stopped talking for 5 years now. Even sa ken i recently learned na may galit sa ken dad ko, it started daw when i was 9 yrs old! As if namang i plotted to ruin his life when i was a kid! Hay madami pa. but you get the drift.

    I know how you feel grabe. I know the feeling of trying not to hate your own father but you can't help it. In my heart naman i don't really hate (if you know what i mean), like you sobrang naiinis na den ako sa dad ko. I'm really concerned with how my dad is running his life and how his twisted mind works. I still continue to pray for him. God comforts me when it comes to this drama in my life. I'll pray for you and your family as well. Just want you to know nde ka nag iisa.

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    OT: notice ko lg avatar ni ts1n1ta

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    same to you to...tsinita...thanx!

    well i think our fathers just grow old...but never grows up...

    he keeps on comparing his life to us..and wanted us to grow like him...pero siya lang ang nagiisip na walang problema...ayaw nyang tangapin na di na maganda ang relasyon naming magkakapamilya,e...tapos pinagkakalat nyang masamang asawa si mami,ako bastard son...bro ko naikot na nya sa ugali nya..ang sis ko,well maybe like you..growing a hate for a dad he was longing to have...envious sa mga kaklaseng sinusundo ng tatay nila.

    anywayz..noon sisimba pa kami noon...pero si dad,dadating comunion na(pinakamaaga,usually pag sinabi na ng pari "the Lord be w/U" dun palang papasok.)!kaya pala,nakita kong kumakain na muna sa mga nagtitinda ng kakanin doon bago pumasok..

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    nga pala,dad even packs the hardware stocks beside this shop,3 trucks,etc....tolds my mom he'll pay for the stocks in 60 dayz....less 20% for selling the stocks...

    kainis..kasi kung sinabi nya,e di sana di na ako nagpagawa ng bahay, at eto na inayos ko at dito na kami tumira kasama pamilya ko...mapapamura pa ako sa gastos....

    week end nalang daw siya babalik-balik.

    i love being part of my family(parents)..kasaya ...

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