Scandals in the First Family

**Juan Tamad** · June 16th, 2005 03:46 PM

I would prefer PING LACSON... GMA is supposed to be an economist.. but for 4 years... what did she do?

Mas madami pa yun scandal at kurakot ng pamilya niya kaysa sa output niya.

**IceColdBeer** · June 16th, 2005 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Juan Tamad

I would prefer PING LACSON... GMA is supposed to be an economist.. but for 4 years... what did she do?

Mas madami pa yun scandal at kurakot ng pamilya niya kaysa sa output niya.

Ping Lacson din ako kaso lang hindi sya bumaba ng VP during last election eh hindi naman talaga sya mananalo, so nahati yung boto ng oposisyon hehe.

Sayang sana Presidente na sya ngaun

**Bogeyman** · June 16th, 2005 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by baiskee

pinaalis naman di ba, di naman nila gusto umalis? hehe

and i don't think its an excuse...pag di successful pamamalakad ng gobyerno...ang sisisihin natin ay yung nakaraang administrasyon? unfair naman yun.

The point is that it will take generations upon generations to undo one man's monumental legacy of plunder.

**baiskee** · June 16th, 2005 04:32 PM

:offtopic: na yata tayo.

**mazdamazda** · June 16th, 2005 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by IceColdBeer

Sa tingin ko oo. Yung total borrowings ni GMA are more than Cory, FVR, and Erap combined.

Another distorted & misleading notion. The Arroyo administration is paying off debts at a staggering rate... consider this:

The Arroyo regime is making the most debt payments in Philippine history – the P470 billion paid in 2003 was equivalent to 75% of NG revenue and 11% of GDP, the P542 billion payments in 2004 is equivalent to 80% of NG revenue, and the P695 billion in 2005 is equivalent to 92% of NG revenue.

The Cory, FVR & Erap administration were only spared since we are under the IMF program then (which started during Marcos' term). This has lead to a FALSE sense that it was just "business as usual" even when all hell broke out. Now that we are out of the said program (and IMF is not anymore pumping borrowed money to us), we are now feeling the effects of those borrowed money.

Originally Posted by baiskee

i think... the president must do a project that is a result oriented one...hindi yung long term muna or less priority... focus muna sya in our present scenario, nawawala yung "strong republic", kaya ramdam na ramdam ng tao yung hirap kesa sa ginhawa...

That is the problem!!! Concentrating on the present scenario rather than the long term solution.

Our country's problem is rooted also in the implemented EOI (export oriented industry) practice by Marcos during the 1970s and is still being continued to be implemented today. In fact, we are putting ourselves at the mercy of foreign markets (which is slowly shifting to China and other countries) with this neoliberal approach.

We are just using the Arroyo issues as a scapegoat to the bigger problem which is an overhaul of our economy as outlined in her Strong Republic vision. The Strong Republic vision will not anymore rely on the EOI which has been in practice since the 70s and has failed. Instead, it is aimed at self-sufficiency, agriculture & small enterprise growth. We are all dreaming of being an EOI like Japan, Korea, Singapore but our conditions do not permit that.

As the saying goes... the Filipino doesn't want to take the bitter pill.

**docpete** · June 16th, 2005 05:15 PM

Now somebody is talking sense ,for the first time!! Nakakasawa na rin yong tsiwsmis.

**IceColdBeer** · June 16th, 2005 06:09 PM

Kaya nga ba mahirap na magbasa ng dyaryo minsan eh.

**baiskee** · June 16th, 2005 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by mazdamazda

That is the problem!!! Concentrating on the present scenario rather than the long term solution.

Our country's problem is rooted also in the implemented EOI (export oriented industry) practice by Marcos during the 1970s and is still being continued to be implemented today. In fact, we are putting ourselves at the mercy of foreign markets (which is slowly shifting to China and other countries) with this neoliberal approach.

We are just using the Arroyo issues as a scapegoat to the bigger problem which is an overhaul of our economy as outlined in her Strong Republic vision. The Strong Republic vision will not anymore rely on the EOI which has been in practice since the 70s and has failed. Instead, it is aimed at self-sufficiency, agriculture & small enterprise growth. We are all dreaming of being an EOI like Japan, Korea, Singapore but our conditions do not permit that.

As the saying goes... the Filipino doesn't want to take the bitter pill.

nope! all of these LRT/ MRT and others were a blueprint of marcos' projects...

yang mga buildings na pinatayo ni imelda....nasan na? di ba napabayaan na lang. buti nga at napapakinabangan na ng mba bading ngayon ang film center (medyo bad feng shui lang nga. hehe )

filipinos need some RESULT from our government NOW!

gutom na ang pilipino... kawawa na ang pilipino... aksiyon ang hinahanap ng pilipino, hindi pangako na hindi nila alam kung kelan mangyayari.

pero wag natin kalimutan...disiplinahin din ang pilipino...tigas kasi ng ulo eh, ang yayabang pa. hehe

di kaya kinakarma lang ang pilipino? nyehehehe

**mazdamazda** · June 16th, 2005 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by baiskee

nope! all of these LRT/ MRT and others were a blueprint of marcos' projects...

yang mga buildings na pinatayo ni imelda....nasan na? di ba napabayaan na lang. buti nga at napapakinabangan na ng mba bading ngayon ang film center (medyo bad feng shui lang nga. hehe )

filipinos need some RESULT from our government NOW!

gutom na ang pilipino... kawawa na ang pilipino... aksiyon ang hinahanap ng pilipino, hindi pangako na hindi nila alam kung kelan mangyayari.

pero wag natin kalimutan...disiplinahin din ang pilipino...tigas kasi ng ulo eh, ang yayabang pa. hehe

di kaya kinakarma lang ang pilipino? nyehehehe

granted that it was Macoy's blueprint... but was those necessary in the first place? was the borrowing of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS worth it?

as you said it... gutom na ang Pilipino. those billions of dollars should have been spent FIRST on making our country self-sufficient in terms of agriculture & basic goods. the other conveniences can follow later.

look at other developed countries... almost all of them is self-sufficient in terms of their staple food. what we export to them are just the "extras" like fruits. if you also look at the development of their countries... it took them hundreds of years to be industrialized!

if you haven't noticed... the BOT scheme is now being heavily favored to bankroll new infra projects (like the NLEX rehab, LRT 2 & 3, North Rail, NLEE, SLEX rehab). this is to minimize the borrowings of the nat'l gov't and to instead rely on the private sector's discipline & business-savvy to pull it all off.

btw... what kind of "instant result" are you talking about? AFAIK, there is no shortcut to economic prosperity. it took the members of the G7 (USA, UK, France, etc) a few century or so to get to their status right now.

**chua_riwap** · June 16th, 2005 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by baiskee

nope! all of these LRT/ MRT and others were a blueprint of marcos' projects...

filipinos need some RESULT from our government NOW!

gutom na ang pilipino... kawawa na ang pilipino... aksiyon ang hinahanap ng pilipino, hindi pangako na hindi nila alam kung kelan mangyayari.

pero wag natin kalimutan...disiplinahin din ang pilipino...tigas kasi ng ulo eh, ang yayabang pa. hehe

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