Scandals in the First Family

[IceColdBeer]

Hay buhay parang life

[Hero]

tama rin na silent ang malacanang about this scandal dahil everytime they say something its obvious that they're lying..its so hilarious!

so ah..ano naman itong si DoA secretary charged with tax evasion?..ayaw din magresign..ibang klase talaga! natanggal na sa dictionary ang salitang delicadeza..teka wala nga ata sa dictionary yun...

[oldblue]

g. As Mr. Boo Chanco of the Star says, we are succeeding inspite of her, so she is the rock that pulls us down, the economist politician who puts her own interest first and is good at covering up her dirt. She has to go soon or we will remove her even if it means her demise. The political pot is boiling, to be cooked soon are the people in power if they don't put out the fire.

here's a thought that I would like to share to you from a bestselling book and bestselling author that I read:

He (the author) said:

" The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. "

slowly absorb & reflect on this first, before you call on people power one more time.

[baiskee]

Pardon me for saying so, but I count this as one of the worst attitudes that we as a people have. You might as well tell the Jews that 'past is past', where the Nazis are concerned. You might as well tell the comfort women that 'past is past', where the Japanese soldiers are concerned. The past may be gone, but it should by no means be forgotten. History exists not so we can merely look at it behind a glass case, but so we can continually learn from its mistakes when we have to. Yung ganyang ugali ang dahilan kung bakit nakabalik sa Pilipinas at sa gobyerno ang mga Marcos; lagi na lang idinadahilan ng mga Pilipino na nakalipas na ang lahat. Ako, I will never tire of telling my children, my grandchildren and great-grandchildren about the darkness that Marcos brought to this country, and that they should always be vigilant so that such a period never occurs again.

medyo nalayo ata yung topic ser, ang ibig kong sabihin sa "past is past" isipin natin kung papano mareresolba ang problema ngayon. kasi ang nangyayari pag lumalabas yung tanong na "Paano na ang gagawin?" hindi nawawla ang sagot na " kasi si ganyan..eto ang ginawa... si ganito...mali yung ginawa" wag na tayong magsisihan, lets move forward...

Naaunawaan ko naman ang iyong mga sentimiyento. Kanya nga lang, hindi sing-simple ng pagpapagamot ng katawan o pag-aayos ng oto ang pagpapatakbo sa isang bansa, na kung may diperensiya sa kalagitnaan ay gustong baguhin agad. Hindi kailangan indahin ang sakit kung inaalagaang mabuti ang katawan. At hindi kailangang indahin ang maling gobyerno kung sa halalan pa lang, nakabantay na tayong mga mamamayan. Hindi yung kung kailan nakaka-isang taon pa lang, konting kibot lang eh, gusto na natin ng iba.

Kung hindi rin lang tayo makapaghintay bilang isang bansa sa susunod na halalan, aba'y tigilan na natin ang pagdaraos nito kada anim na taon. Idaan na lang natin sa sigaw kung sino ang pipiliing pangulo ng bansa. Gaya ng minsan ko nang nabanggit, kung hindi natin mababantayan bilang sambayanan ang ating mga demokratikong proseso, karapat-dapat lang sa atin ang sinumang pangulo na uupo bilang resulta ng isang huwad na halalan.

kaya nga po sa umpisa pa lang dapat di ba? nung pinabubukas po yung mga balota ng opposition...ano po bang masama na buksan? kung totoong hindi nandaya si gma...bakit ayaw pabukas? may tinatago po bang dapat hindi malaman ng tao?

kung ako, wala akong ginawang masama...wala akong nilihim...at yan lang ang paraan upang makuha ko ang tiwala ng buong pilipino gagawin ko yun para lang mapatunayan ko na hindi ko sila niloloko. ang hirap kasi sa gobyernong ito...lahat na tanong na hinihintay ng tao..wala silang masagot. pano ka magtitiwala sa kanila? ibig sabihin lang nito ay wala silang pakialam sa hinaing ng mga pilipino. kaya nabubuo ang mga haka-haka na totong nandaya nga sya.

eh kung pinabuksan ba nya ang mga balota at napatunayan na sya nga ang totoong nanalo sa pagkapangulo...eh di sana mas marami ang makikisimpatya sa kanya.

tama rin na silent ang malacanang about this scandal dahil everytime they say something its obvious that they're lying..its so hilarious!

so ah..ano naman itong si DoA secretary charged with tax evasion?..ayaw din magresign..ibang klase talaga! natanggal na sa dictionary ang salitang delicadeza..teka wala nga ata sa dictionary yun...

sagot lang po ang hanap sa bawat tanong.

sa nangyayari ngayon sa kasalukuyang administrasyon....isinasantabi lang po ang mga tanong...wala pong malinaw sa sagot.

itong gobyerno ay parang khaos, puro dada...wala naman pruweba.

[mbt]

look at the front-page story in the Inquirer today saying that Bunye declared that GMA will never talk about the tapes even if summoned to a congressional hearing... then there's the editorial that talks about how the government charged with 'inciting to rebellion' some persons who were putting up posters that were against GMA.

haha. how pathetic! i wonder how anyone can deny that GMA is innocent of this cheating charge.

[BlueBimmer]

yes she is certainly acting guilty..'inciting to rebellion'? i hope di yan maging mini-martial law..

[IceColdBeer]

Tama ka diyan Baiskee. Kung wala kang itinatago bakit takot kang ipakita? Tsk tsk tsk...

BB, with all what they're doing now? It's simply like a mini martial law. Pati ringtone eh pagdidiskitahan?

[baiskee]

look at the front-page story in the Inquirer today saying that Bunye declared that GMA will never talk about the tapes even if summoned to a congressional hearing... then there's the editorial that talks about how the government charged with 'inciting to rebellion' some persons who were putting up posters that were against GMA.

haha. how pathetic! i wonder how anyone can deny that GMA is innocent of this cheating charge.

hah! and they are telling the people to just cooperate with the government... t*ngina nila!

[oldblue]

Naaunawaan ko naman ang iyong mga sentimiyento. Kanya nga lang, hindi sing-simple ng pagpapagamot ng katawan o pag-aayos ng oto ang pagpapatakbo sa isang bansa, na kung may diperensiya sa kalagitnaan ay gustong baguhin agad. Hindi kailangan indahin ang sakit kung inaalagaang mabuti ang katawan. At hindi kailangang indahin ang maling gobyerno kung sa halalan pa lang, nakabantay na tayong mga mamamayan. Hindi yung kung kailan nakaka-isang taon pa lang, konting kibot lang eh, gusto na natin ng iba.

in short the biggest mistake of all is to start from scratch, hehehe. of course many would agree that starting from scratch sounds refreshing or even rejuvinating. But this should be limited to math, science or technical problems.

which one would be closer to achieve a goal:

one who makes mistakes, learns from it, and moves on.

or

one who makes mistakes, learns from it, starts again, makes mistakes, learns from it, but starts again.

time is of utmost importance. we are growing rapidly in numbers. By the time, we successfully removed the nth corrupt president, there maybe 190M of us, shouting the same grievances & demands.

although 'growing rapidly in numbers' suggests a math problem or a technical problem hehehe...(for the "philosophers"). it cant be started from scratch bec. if it can, it will only mean to reduce the number of Filipinos. a lot similar to what the league of Shadows wanted to do in the Batman Begins movie.

[explorer]

hmmm...ang mga tuta nga naman...it's been a long time. i remember the time of marcos when everyone in the government were kissing marcos ass to make the first family look good.

also, during the time of marcos...yung mga projects lagi pinagmamalaki para matakpan yung corruptions na nangyari. pagpinalitan daw si marcos wala ng projects na darating...tinatakot lahat na wala raw competent/qualified na kaya papalit kay marcos....worst case, tinakot yung mga tao na maging communist yung pinas pag wala na si marcos. ulol! that's a very mediocre thingking! kung bobo sila, wag nila kami idamay at gawing bobo at tanga!

[IceColdBeer]

Oh well, some people even insist that the gloriagate/juetenggate were purely hogwash. I don't know what other evidence they need to open up their eyes.

[van_wilder]

Yup, and look what happened by the time the Marcoses left Malacañang. Marcos may have given some, but he also took away everything.

Succeeding administrations are merely picking up the pieces brought about by Marcos' plunder, so it's no use blaming them.

i think, maraming ginawa ni marcos na sinira ng next administration... lalo na yun mga beautification projects... marcos was one of the most misunderstood personality in the history of man...

well, filipinos dont believe in rules din kasi kaya he gave them a hard time... in philippines: rules apply to everyone except me...

[van_wilder]

Philippines' National Debt
1962 - $275M
1986 - $27.2B
2003 - $57B

We are still paying off our debts from Marcos' time.

huh? more than half of our debt was acquired after marcos era... its not interest... kasi kung 27.2B * .05 annually bale... $51B kung hindi tayo nagbabayad... eh since binabayaran natin yun interest yearly... yun half ay inutang nun ibang president... kaya rin naging $27.2B utang natin nun 1986 ay dahil umutang ang pilipinas after marcos era to rehab misleading yun year 1986, akala nun iba tinakas din ni marcos yun pera...

[van_wilder]

when was the batann power plant made? panahon ni Marcos ba yun? i read somewhere the loans we still have on it and the ridiculous amount of interest that we are paying on it...... on something that has never worked.... soooooo saaaaaad

andy

mga pinoy din kasi ang may kasalanan diba kung bakit hindi ito napakinabangan? we are not risk takers kaya mahirap ang development, just imagine what benefits nuclear powerplants could give us...

[van_wilder]

to think economist si gma dapat alam nya yan... sadly, mas alam nya ata manipulahin ang kaban ng bayan.

may narinig ako di ko lang matandaan kung saan..baka dito rin sa tsikot. sabi daw ng isang foreigner na "Philippines is a very RICH country pretending to be POOR."

sa batas trapiko lang eh... kung hinuhuli lang ba nila ng maayos yang mga pesteng drayber na laging lumalabag sa batas eh di dagdag sa funds sana at matututo pang ma disiplina ang tao.

yang WOW Philippines... ok na ok yan...nung nawala lang si gordon parang nawala na rin yung programa na yan...

i think... the president must do a project that is a result oriented one...hindi yung long term muna or less priority... focus muna sya in our present scenario, nawawala yung "strong republic", kaya ramdam na ramdam ng tao yung hirap kesa sa ginhawa...

and lastly, so ibig sabihin nyan eh...habang di natin nababayaran ang utang natin eh hindi na giginhawa ang pilipino? i disagree. parang sa ating indibidwal na tao rin yan...

yang mga successful businessmen (sy, ayala, gokongwei, tan, etc...) may mga utang din yan mga yan... pero bakit maganda naman yung buhay nila, it's because on how they handle their businesses.

we are not really rich... we are a poor country... its just a defense-mechanism for us to feel good... actually wala sa government yan... nasa atin yan... kasi tayo lang ang may power to change our society... by changing ourselves... the government can only do so much and hanggang ganoon lang yun, they cannot change people, people can change by, well, changing themselves... it is only you who have the power to change yourself...

[baiskee]

we are not really rich... we are a poor country... its just a defense-mechanism for us to feel good... actually wala sa government yan... nasa atin yan... kasi tayo lang ang may power to change our society... by changing ourselves... the government can only do so much and hanggang ganoon lang yun, they cannot change people, people can change by, well, changing themselves... it is only you who have the power to change yourself...

i disagree ser, maraming YAMAN dito sa pilipinas...di lang nagagamit ng maayos.

do you believe that PHILIPPINES is a poor country? nahh..

[van_wilder]

if we sum all things up, we could have the most corrupt government and yet still have a good life and a developed nation. the government is a big factor in the nation building but just only a factor, it is the society and the attitude of the citizens that make or break the nation building...

pero...

si gloria na ang pinakacorrupt na adminstration according to a social organization (forgot what) that tracks corruption. masgrabe pa kaysa kay erap... nalalamangan lang siya ni marcos dahil siyempre medyo biased yun kay marcos (history is written by the victors, losers accept all accusations) ang lamang lang ni marcos ay may nagawa siya compared to gloria...

[van_wilder]

i disagree ser, maraming YAMAN dito sa pilipinas...di lang nagagamit ng maayos.

do you believe that PHILIPPINES is a poor country? nahh..

yep! wealth is among private individuals... my mom is in the government, wala daw talagang budget... tapos yun natitira yun ang kinukurakot...

yun yaman na nandito, walang magagawa ang pilipinas dun... private yun eh...

ginamit kasi natin na policies eh yun tulad sa USA kaya hindi applicable dito, kaya hindi magamit ng mga pinoy resources natin kasi mahihirapan sila dahil maraming sabit sa mga business rules and policies... pero pag foreign investor may incentive pa... kaya yun mga big companies lang ang pwede lumago na mabilis...

[oldblue]

why blame the rich people if they have all the money in the Phils. they deserve it bec. they used their minds in achieving their goals. they never complained, they lived life accordingly, regardless if the business atmosphere is good or bad. me, I'm not rich, in fact I have a small business that's slowly going down the drain, I drive a 6-yr old car that I cant even casa-maintain. But I dont blame them. All I can blame is myself coz I never trained myself whenever I had the time/chance to become as wise as them. Instead of hating them, I admire them and make them my role models.

[baiskee]

why blame the rich people if they have all the money in the Phils. they deserve it bec. they used their minds in achieving their goals. they never complained, they lived life accordingly, regardless if the business atmosphere is good or bad. me, I'm not rich, in fact I have a small business that's slowly going down the drain, I drive a 6-yr old car that I cant even casa-maintain. But I dont blame them. All I can blame is myself coz I never trained myself whenever I had the time/chance to become as wise as them. Instead of hating them, I admire them and make them my role models.

o nga naman...

yep! wealth is among private individuals... my mom is in the government, wala daw talagang budget... tapos yun natitira yun ang kinukurakot...

yun yaman na nandito, walang magagawa ang pilipinas dun... private yun eh...

ginamit kasi natin na policies eh yun tulad sa USA kaya hindi applicable dito, kaya hindi magamit ng mga pinoy resources natin kasi mahihirapan sila dahil maraming sabit sa mga business rules and policies... pero pag foreign investor may incentive pa... kaya yun mga big companies lang ang pwede lumago na mabilis...

and i'm saying that Philippines is RICH base on the country itself... the natural beauty of it.

hindi po yung pera ng bawat pilipino ang tinutukoy ko. yung pwede natin makunan ng pagkakakitaan such as export goods, tourism, etc...