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  1. Join Date
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    #41
    I don't think that racism is the proper term to encompass all of this.

    DISCRIMINATION might be a better term... whether race, gender, religion, economic status, culture, etc.

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    #42
    We should also make a distinction between RACISM and STEREOTYPING.

    If Stanford University starts to implement a policy to accept only WHITE students. It's racism.

    If airport security officials subject you to greater scrutiny because you obviously look Middle Eastern, your religion is Islam, and you live in Yemen, that is called stereotyping.

    If Asian employees are being denied promotion in a company in America, that is racism.

    If all Pinays are often branded as domestic helpers in Hong Kong, that is stereotyping.

    The difference is: Racism is based on outright discrimination without sufficient basis. Stereotyping is based on discrimination because of valid patterns that reflect one's image from the past (Stereotyping is the same as "birds of the same feather flock together" or "guilty by association", or "tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are".

    Stereotyping is regrettable. Racism should be condemned.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by cumbersome
    Uhh, i don't get your point. My post was an objective analysis of racism. It could be blatant, it could be subtle, but it is racism nonetheless. And racism is also a decision, just like any other. I personally espouse tolerance, but oftentimes, people unknowingly cross the line in the spirit of humour.
    I'm just pointing out your post regarding chinese marrying pinoys, calling them racists for not allowing their children to marry a person of different culture is unfair, its usually a case to case basis. You could have used a different example.

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBimmer
    chinese = kuripot, bisaya = baduy, 'bombays' = baho...stereotyping IMO..but others could interpret it with a hint of racism..
    Hmmm...stereotyping categorized with racial origin. A mild racist insult perhaps?

  5. FrankDrebin Guest
    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    I'm just pointing out your post regarding chinese marrying pinoys, calling them racists for not allowing their children to marry a person of different culture is unfair, its usually a case to case basis. You could have used a different example.
    Is a mere looking down on or denying something to someone who is not in the same skin color like yours considered an act of racism?

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    I'm just pointing out your post regarding chinese marrying pinoys, calling them racists for not allowing their children to marry a person of different culture is unfair, its usually a case to case basis. You could have used a different example.
    It was a previously stated example, i just followed up on it. I respect the fact that you don't agree with me, but i don't know what else to call the preference for your own race, and disdain for others when it comes to marriage, whatever the case is. The movie "To Sir With Love" comes to mind in this situation.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by FrankDrebin
    Is a mere looking down on or denying something to someone who is not in the same skin color like yours considered an act of racism?
    Sometimes, it is called tradition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    Sometimes, it is called tradition.
    Just before the Holocaust... the Nazis forbade Jews from marrying non-Jewish Germans (Aryans).

    The concept of racial purity is associated the belief that the various races of mankind should be kept "pure" by not permitting interbreeding.

    This belief is associated with racism and attempted biological justifications for this concept are now regarded as entirely unscientific.

  9. #49
    mazdamazda: Mga extreme cases na yun hehehe as in sobrang traditional. Well to clarify things di naman kailangan pure chinese, atleast may isang side na Chinese, the reason is they want as much as possible to have the same culture and upbringing, which is very important to the parents and relatives. Well at least thats the case in our family.

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Karding
    This thread is WORTH deleting.

    ;)
    Medyo I agree with Karding on this one...... madali kasing pagusapan pero dun sa mga nakaranas nito, mas maganda sigurong kalimutan....... nakakasawa na kasi...... opinion lang po bossings

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Macky
    Medyo I agree with Karding on this one...... madali kasing pagusapan pero dun sa mga nakaranas nito, mas maganda sigurong kalimutan....... nakakasawa na kasi...... opinion lang po bossings
    If you are sick and tired of a thread started by someone else, you have the option not to read it and simply read only those threads that interests you. It can save your time and it can save you from anguish. Nobody is required to read every thread posted here anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorDoom
    If you are sick and tired of a thread started by someone else, you have the option not to read it and simply read only those threads that interests you. It can save your time and it can save you from anguish. Nobody is required to read every thread posted here anyway.


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    correct ka diyan ..

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    #53
    easy lang mga sirs...

    mejo sensitive talaga ang topic so hinay hinay lang.

    about the chinese marrying a pinoy...

    ewan ko lang ha..pure zhong quo ren ang howe ko.ako pure pinoy (bulacenyo at zambal bebeh!!!).

    sinasabi nila it's because of the family..the relatives...etc.

    sa akin lang..di naman sila ang pakakasalan ko.ang gf ko ang pakakasalan ko.

    pero i understand na kasama yun sa tradition nila....but understanding it doesn't mean na i am accepting it.i, together with my family, have our own beliefs and traditions too.and i wont let that be a hindrance for the two of us to live happily ever after.

    sorry mejo ot.
    Last edited by GlennSter; July 19th, 2005 at 11:36 PM.

  14. #54
    Glenn: Thats good to hear. Point is, really it depends on the parents or relatives, so its a case to case basis, and yes its usually tradition and culture that we in the Chinese community follow. But that doesn't mean we're racists.

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    #55
    naah..i dont think it's racism.herhehrehr

    but in some way, sometimes, i do think that it is.but the important thing is...i understand where they..or you are coming from.even if i don't agree, i understand...respeto baga!

  16. #56
    OT uli:

    My cousins wife is filipina, and she was welcomed with open arms in our family. Sobrang bait, sinasamahan pa Mom and sis-in-law ko sa doctor na rinecommend niya.

    Eto isa pa, another cousins wife is Filipina but she wants her son to marry a chinese when the time comes, its not a requirement, just a preference.

    Just a couple of samples by yours truly.

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    #57
    aba.bakit parang familiar ang kwento mo.ganyan din cousins ni howe.herhehrehrehr

  18. #58
    Chances are magkakakilala sila ng relatives ko, well at least magkakakilala ang mga Uncles and Aunts.

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    #59
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennSter
    and i wont let that be a hindrance for the two of us to live happily ever after.
    i like that sir glenn...dapat kung talaga tunay nag mamahalan ang dalawa tao..kahit tutol pa ang ang buong family .friends and neighbors


    OT:

    just like ng dalawang clan sa LAGUNA ..mortal mag kaaway ang family hanggang sa may nagkamatayan na both side of the families .even late Pres. F.Marcos pinag bati sila pero sinuway lang din nila ..but those some young generations nila ..nag ka pangasawahan pa ...

    i think na true to life story pa ito sa movie

    sorry di ko maalala ang exact place sa Laguna and both family names

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    #60
    Mika, the Oprah incident doesnt align well with your question. Why? because its a HOAX. You can simply ask the members about how do they feel about RACISM without posting a HOAX. It is better to have a REAL example than posting a HOAX. And most people doesnt even read other member's reply. Therefore, it could trigger another confusion and anger.

    To add, do you really think our members will say, "YES I am for RACISM." Of course they wont.

    Its ironic tho, most Filipinos are PREJUDICE against their own kind and are SUPERFICIAL.

    But hey, we all are entitle to our own opinion.

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