Prophecy of Nostradamus

[Eismann]

These are logical solutions but the fact remains as in the movie mentioned earlier that there is a great difference between muslim and christian beliefs. So even if you divide the land equally and provide for all their needs there, strife and turmoil will still occur one way or the other. The way to go as I see it, is change the belief system of both christian and muslim people. But this will be a slow process and a hundred years may not be enough. The radical thing to do is eliminate the extremists so that the moderates will be the one to change the belief system gradually. Eventually, the US should step out of there and let the Jews and Lebanese get over with their own agenda.

[Monseratto]

Israel are called people of the book...the jews claimed a land because the book says so turning back the clock thousands of years back and told the people of palestine, it is written, this is our land. We can't really blame the palestinians for being suicidal. Imagine yourself living in a place, you earned by birthright, with your family, then suddenly some white men stops by your house and say you have to leave because this land belongs to us. Would you let them take your land? Of course not, they will have to take your life if they do that. Same case with the palestines. They have been living there for thousands of years. Zionist americans and from other parts of europe migrated to palestine land to establish a theocratic state backed by a promise by the british after world war I.

Now since this world is about domination, power and military, US and UK allowed zionists to establish a state which happened 1948 thru UN resolution which offered strong resistance from the arabs. So much of recent terrorism started here in this middle east crisis.

Hmm...and the Americans get a little angry when you compare Zionism as a racist movement. These Zionist were called terrorist by the British in 1946 when they were blowing up Palestinian property. Now they are called national heroes by the Israeli state. Those Palestinian resistance fighting in occupied land against the Israeli forces, like killing or kidnapping soldiers are called terrorist by a state founded by terrorist. ??? Kaya ang gulo talaga ng mundo.

[Negus]

Israel hints at a full scale invasion

wag naman sana...

[Monseratto]

Israel hints at a full scale invasion

wag naman sana...

They done that before, which led to a masscre of Sabra and Shatila of around 1000 or more Palestinians by militants allied with Israel. Parang hinde talaga natuto mga hudyo na ito.


Palestinian refugees massacred, 1982.

[kinyo]

pikon talo lang kasi yang mga arabo eh ... dami din ganyan dito sa pinas

talo sila sa giyera, binigyan pa rin sila ng lupa (maliit nga lang), pero kalahi rin nila (arabo) yung mga kapit bansa, pwede silang ma-absorb doon, lalo na syria na supporter din nila, pinapayagan silang magtrabaho sa israel ... pwedeng-pwede silang mamuhay na mariwasa ... kaso pikon nga ... edi ayan, away dito, away doon ... hindi naman nila matalo-talo ang kalaban

sabi nagmula sa pamilya ni abraham ang mga hudyo, okupado nila ang israel, kaso lang na-invade ng kung sinu-sino, kumalat ang mga hudyo, nakarating sa europe, sa amerika, pero buo pa rin sila, yumaman, lalong tumalino, pinagpapatay ni hitler, nakaraos pa rin sila, noong okupado na ng british ang israel aka palestine, sinamantala nila ang pagkakataon na makabalik sa lupa nila, gulo ulit, eh kaso malakas na ang mga hudyo, ayun panalo sila, ni-recognize ng U.N. ang Israel State ... kaso pikon nga ang mga arabo, eh bugok naman sila sa giyera ... biro nyo, noong nag-declare ng independence ang Israel noong 1947, ginyera sila the following day ng mga arabo ... talo ulit ang mga arabo ... talo sila noon, laong talo sila ngayon

hindi matatapos ang gulo na yan hangga't hindi mapalayas ang mga hudyo (uli) o maubos ang lahi ng mga radical na arabo

If Nostradamus predicted WW3, this could very well be the start of it. But then, even the Bible itself hinted of world war or widespread destruction/catastrophic events short of eliminating the human race.

Meron din akong nabasa, predicted yun tsunami, series of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, the rise of so-called anti-Christ from the Middle East, the current human race will be eliminated by war and/or natural calamities ... but before that happens a few good natured humans will be saved by ... aliens! To be trained daw to re-inhibit the earth properly, so the story ends in humans living happily ever after, the eighth civilisation.

... or at least until one stupid human learns how to be pikon again.

[oldblue]

mayroon theory before na sagad na talaga hanggang buto ang labanan ng Muslim and Christians. even yun mga lost world na tinatawag fictitious or not, Atlantis vs. Ancient India. (atlantic ocean vs. indian ocean)

Plato believed that there was a great great war in the ancient world. and to think ancient na sa'tin si Plato and aristotle et al ha. but he recounts of an older world than his present world. a world with beautiful cities and remarkable technology.

lumubog daw ang atlantis and the survivors scattered in all places. some went to a region known today as egypt & middle east, some went to the Americas. in India naman, tunaw na tunaw ang other side ng world na yun coz of a thermonuclear blast daw (based from Ramayana epic). no wonder, when the asian tsunami hit the Indian ocean, gulat na gulat mga nasa beach ng india noon nawala ang tubig sa dagat, they saw ruined cities underneath their beaches but failed to document it, kasi nga bumalik na tubig minutes later and wiped most of them out.


we all know naman na yun Indian people (not American Indians hehehe) has similarities with the modern Arabs, and in fact baka nga Arabs yun descendants ng Ancient India.

most probably, the Muslims and Christians/Jews of today are modern descendants of these ancient warring tribes. even the setting of our much-feared war today eh may striking similarity sa ancient wars.

so If I were an atheist like you *city, sometimes I like to believe na religion was invented for the descendants of this warring tribes to keep themselves focused on the goal ... and that is to annihilate each other .

but of course, fiction lang ito hehehe

[city]

Hmm...and the Americans get a little angry when you compare Zionism as a racist movement. These Zionist were called terrorist by the British in 1946 when they were blowing up Palestinian property. Now they are called national heroes by the Israeli state. Those Palestinian resistance fighting in occupied land against the Israeli forces, like killing or kidnapping soldiers are called terrorist by a state founded by terrorist. ??? Kaya ang gulo talaga ng mundo.

Exactly!

[city]

mayroon theory before na sagad na talaga hanggang buto ang labanan ng Muslim and Christians. even yun mga lost world na tinatawag fictitious or not, Atlantis vs. Ancient India. (atlantic ocean vs. indian ocean)

Plato believed that there was a great great war in the ancient world. and to think ancient na sa'tin si Plato and aristotle et al ha. but he recounts of an older world than his present world. a world with beautiful cities and remarkable technology.

lumubog daw ang atlantis and the survivors scattered in all places. some went to a region known today as egypt & middle east, some went to the Americas. in India naman, tunaw na tunaw ang other side ng world na yun coz of a thermonuclear blast daw (based from Ramayana epic). no wonder, when the asian tsunami hit the Indian ocean, gulat na gulat mga nasa beach ng india noon nawala ang tubig sa dagat, they saw ruined cities underneath their beaches but failed to document it, kasi nga bumalik na tubig minutes later and wiped most of them out.


we all know naman na yun Indian people (not American Indians hehehe) has similarities with the modern Arabs, and in fact baka nga Arabs yun descendants ng Ancient India.

most probably, the Muslims and Christians/Jews of today are modern descendants of these ancient warring tribes. even the setting of our much-feared war today eh may striking similarity sa ancient wars.

so If I were an atheist like you *city, sometimes I like to believe na religion was invented for the descendants of this warring tribes to keep themselves focused on the goal ... and that is to annihilate each other .

but of course, fiction lang ito hehehe

oldblue, you are correct, and I have mentioned this in another thread. religion was used by man to strengthen the group and survive in the early days. As our civilization evolve and progress, it's obviously not needed anymore because all it does is cause strife, conflict and wars. And most people dont realized this and cling on to religion. Now in the case of the middle east, where the main issue is land grabbing or disputes, some groups have used religion to hypnotize members into suicidal mode, so to speak. But as a matter of fact, if we take a look at history, religion has been used to grab lands and conquer, correct? Why? Because most leaders knew what religion can do to a certain individual. Fireup that murderous instinct in humans!

[theveed]

After eons of evolutionary progress, tanga padin ng human beings...

[badsekktor]

oldblue, you are correct, and I have mentioned this in another thread. religion was used by man to strengthen the group and survive in the early days. As our civilization evolve and progress, it's obviously not needed anymore because all it does is cause strife, conflict and wars. And most people dont realized this and cling on to religion. Now in the case of the middle east, where the main issue is land grabbing or disputes, some groups have used religion to hypnotize members into suicidal mode, so to speak. But as a matter of fact, if we take a look at history, religion has been used to grab lands and conquer, correct? Why? Because most leaders knew what religion can do to a certain individual. Fireup that murderous instinct in humans!

and now religion has been used as a moneymaking scheme.....

[theveed]

It has always been used as a money making scheme naman eh, it takes money for it to grow...

Kung buhay si Nostradamus ngayon, di siguro sisikat si Madam Auring...

[Imau]

It has always been used as a money making scheme naman eh, it takes money for it to grow...

Kung buhay si Nostradamus ngayon, di siguro sisikat si Madam Auring...

sasali din kaya sya sa deal or no deal gaya nung isang manghuhula? at makuha kaya nya yung 2 million petot?

[Isuzoom]

raket!

[theveed]

Hehe di ko talaga magets baket di pwede gamitin ng manghuhula powers to get rich, instead of charging small racket amounts per "hula" hehe.

[Eismann]

Yung mga manghuhula, they can only get rich if they have other business or job aside from manghula and work hard like most of us. I highly doubt kung mahulaan nila yung next winning number sa lotto.

Kung sino ma manghuhula dyan, paki-pm nyo sa amin winning numbers mamaya....ha-ha-ha-ha...may 20 percent kayo sa pot.

[oldblue]

oldblue, you are correct, and I have mentioned this in another thread. religion was used by man to strengthen the group and survive in the early days. As our civilization evolve and progress, it's obviously not needed anymore because all it does is cause strife, conflict and wars. And most people dont realized this and cling on to religion. Now in the case of the middle east, where the main issue is land grabbing or disputes, some groups have used religion to hypnotize members into suicidal mode, so to speak. But as a matter of fact, if we take a look at history, religion has been used to grab lands and conquer, correct? Why? Because most leaders knew what religion can do to a certain individual. Fireup that murderous instinct in humans!

somehow I agree with you. let's take for example, the movies: Mad Max and the Postman. The people depicted there are survivors of a nuclear war that they never knew nor even witnessed. some of their elders could have first hand experience of the war that took place but like the rest of the other younger survivors, their guess is as good as the lot. probably because, they were also very young (age of 1-8) when the war took place. they have no idea of their former world: the arts and sciences, the organizational structure & society, the culture and even the former religion, beliefs and aspirations.

kumbaga, para na din sila tinapon sa isang planeta na wala ka-id-idea sa mundong ginagalawan nila. all they have are ruined artifacts and remains of a former world. and like the modern humans that their ancestors were, the natural tendency was to continue to survive. and so they form groups, unite and build makeshift communities. at first, they share willingly the natural resources that the new world has to offer. and then their numbers multiply exponentially. Then the competition starts bec. a group of survivors will clash with another group and so on so forth.

along the way, when competition becomes very stiff, some survivors will become creative and will put meanings on some existing ancient ruins to gain advantage. advantages such as the ability to persuade other survivors to rally with their cause bec. they are somehow protected by a supernatural entity of some sort. The rival group also sees through with this strategy and applies the same.

and so religions evolve to what we have now. the best thing about religion: it's timeless. it can stand time and the message lives on from generation to generation. Unlike in military and political organizations, generals/leaders live and die, aspirations come and fade.

yun mga nangyayari ngaun sa 'tin, yan na yun. people enforcing their beliefs and ideals to the extreme. hindi lang naman mga Muslims ang guilty dito, even the Christians/Jews alike. Yes, we were thought since childhood that being idealistic is the right thing to do. pero mayroon din kasabihan, anything in excess is bad also. kumbaga pag sobrang right ka nahehehe o sobrang tama ka, mali ka na nun!

[Eismann]

It seems hopeless pero I think love conquers all. In the end, no single religion will triumph but those who loved more. And loving more....means giving more.....enduring more. I think all the great focal persons where religion emanated taught this to their early followers. Christ for the Christians, Mohammed for the Muslims, Yahweh for the Jews, Buddha for the Buddhists, etc.

[city]

somehow I agree with you. let's take for example, the movies: Mad Max and the Postman. The people depicted there are survivors of a nuclear war that they never knew nor even witnessed. some of their elders could have first hand experience of the war that took place but like the rest of the other younger survivors, their guess is as good as the lot. probably because, they were also very young (age of 1-8) when the war took place. they have no idea of their former world: the arts and sciences, the organizational structure & society, the culture and even the former religion, beliefs and aspirations.

kumbaga, para na din sila tinapon sa isang planeta na wala ka-id-idea sa mundong ginagalawan nila. all they have are ruined artifacts and remains of a former world. and like the modern humans that their ancestors were, the natural tendency was to continue to survive. and so they form groups, unite and build makeshift communities. at first, they share willingly the natural resources that the new world has to offer. and then their numbers multiply exponentially. Then the competition starts bec. a group of survivors will clash with another group and so on so forth.

along the way, when competition becomes very stiff, some survivors will become creative and will put meanings on some existing ancient ruins to gain advantage. advantages such as the ability to persuade other survivors to rally with their cause bec. they are somehow protected by a supernatural entity of some sort. The rival group also sees through with this strategy and applies the same.

and so religions evolve to what we have now. the best thing about religion: it's timeless. it can stand time and the message lives on from generation to generation. Unlike in military and political organizations, generals/leaders live and die, aspirations come and fade.

yun mga nangyayari ngaun sa 'tin, yan na yun. people enforcing their beliefs and ideals to the extreme. hindi lang naman mga Muslims ang guilty dito, even the Christians/Jews alike. Yes, we were thought since childhood that being idealistic is the right thing to do. pero mayroon din kasabihan, anything in excess is bad also. kumbaga pag sobrang right ka nahehehe o sobrang tama ka, mali ka na nun!

Religions die too but that supernatural entity is somehow hardwired in our brains. We think there is but there isn't, so new religions will come out. People will realize that xtianity, judaism and islam, etc. are myths...they will realize how come these religions which originated from one faith worshipping the same god killl each other in the name of their gods? no offense meant but it's true.

[mazdamazda]

oldblue, you are correct, and I have mentioned this in another thread. religion was used by man to strengthen the group and survive in the early days. As our civilization evolve and progress, it's obviously not needed anymore because all it does is cause strife, conflict and wars. And most people dont realized this and cling on to religion.

Isn't strife, conflict and wars being waged regardless whether religion is involved or not?

Take for example WWII: Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan & Fascist Italy all used nationalism to motivate their citizens in waging an uncalled for war against the rest of the world. Pax America & Communist USSR almost triggered WWIII due to differences in idealism. A modern day example would be Communist North Korea defying the world.

Bottomline... any idealogy whether religious or areligious (e.g. nationalism) when practiced in extremism results in strife, conflict and wars. Categorically stating that all religion do is just that might be an example of that.

[mazdamazda]

It seems hopeless pero I think love conquers all. In the end, no single religion will triumph but those who loved more. And loving more....means giving more.....enduring more. I think all the great focal persons where religion emanated taught this to their early followers. Christ for the Christians, Mohammed for the Muslims, Yahweh for the Jews, Buddha for the Buddhists, etc.

Well... that is what most religious fundamentalist do not understand. They claim that their religion is the only "true" one.

Modern religion already espouses of mutual respect & coexistence with one another. A good example would be Saudi Arabia & UAE... a few decades ago they wouldn't even had thought of having non-Muslim soldiers being based in their countries but now permanent US bases are stading there.