Nostradamus had 'grim warning' for new pope
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...4/s1340993.htm
The pope elected to succeed John Paul II will be assassinated and his death will spark a Muslim invasion of the West that will split the Roman Catholic church, according to an interpretation of Nostradamus's prophecies by a leading Colombian author.
"The next pope elected will be subsequently murdered in central Italy," said Gonzalo Echeverri, a Colombian investigating judge and author of a book on Nostradamus.
"Then comes pope number 112, who will flee Rome because of an attack by Muslims."
Mr Echeverri says the pope will base himself in Avignon, France, and another pontiff will take control in Italy, splitting the Catholic church in two.
"There is a very clear prophecy that says the holy father will move to another place, even warning that the French pope will not be able to stay in Avignon due to the Muslim invasion and will flee again to Lyon, where he will be attacked, according to Nostradamus," Echeverri said.
Avignon was a base for popes for much of the 14th century, another time of grave divisions in the church and Europe.
Nostradamus was a 16th century scholar who made prophecies.
His supporters say he predicted the French revolution, the rise of Hitler and the assassination of President John F Kennedy.
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April 10th, 2005 09:23 PM #1
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April 10th, 2005 10:22 PM #2Muslim invasion?
It maybe appropriate in Nostradamus' times, but nowadays? Hmmm...
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April 10th, 2005 10:31 PM #3bakit hindi appropriate? baka hindi lang literal... like conversion of people, or parang yun nangyari sa holy land, na naging minoruty na lang ang christians...
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April 10th, 2005 10:37 PM #4Dba in the middle ages... uso yung Christian-Muslim / "religious" wars... in this time wala pa namang indication of something like that happening...
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Kung conversion, parang medyo malabo... Italy is a very staunch Roman-Catholic country. Imagine trying to convert the Philippines to another religion...
But let's see...
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April 10th, 2005 11:19 PM #5malabo nga... pero yun na yun pinakamalapit mangyari eh... baka hindi talaga mangyayari... we create our own destiny naman eh... baka ma-involve illuminati... or something... hehehehe Originally Posted by mazdamazda
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April 11th, 2005 12:06 AM #6In Europe you can find a lot of empty Cathedrals. Half of the world's Catholics can be found in Latin America. Catholicism is growing in Africa, Asia and other places. Muslims are migrating to Europe to escape the problems in the Middle East. Originally Posted by mazdamazda
It happened before way back in 1521. The natives of the archipelago now known as the Philippines used to believe in different dietiest, spirits, etc.Imagine trying to convert the Philippines to another religion...Last edited by OTO; April 11th, 2005 at 12:11 AM.
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April 10th, 2005 11:04 PM #7Subject to interpretation naman kasi ang sinasabi ni Nostradamus.
Malay niyo, Nostradamus also saw the arrival of the teletubbies. Depende na lang sa interpreter iyan.
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April 11th, 2005 12:52 AM #8i am guessing that he did. :lol:Malay niyo, Nostradamus also saw the arrival of the teletubbies.
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April 11th, 2005 06:10 PM #9ha ha ha...di ko mapigilang matawa dito he he Originally Posted by OTEP
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April 11th, 2005 12:51 AM #11How so? They had there own religion and we have our own religion. How did Protestantism take root in very Roman Catholic Philippines after 1898? Originally Posted by van_wilder
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April 11th, 2005 01:14 AM #12kasi iba ang society ngayon at dati... parehas ba ang mga tao nun 1990s and 1980s? people do change... everything change... Originally Posted by OTO
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April 11th, 2005 01:16 AM #13So our ancestors are wrong and we're right? In 100 year's time our great great great grand kids are right and we're wrong? Originally Posted by van_wilder
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April 11th, 2005 01:52 AM #14maybe. people do learn from trial and error way... we learn from the experience nun mga ancestors natin... Originally Posted by OTO
before newton's laws... ngayon theory of relativity...
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April 11th, 2005 09:13 AM #15How about being shot when you don't get converted? Originally Posted by OTO
Protestants? Simple... the arrival of the Americans... since Spain cannot anymore dictate the choice of religion of the people...
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April 11th, 2005 12:05 PM #16So our religions are imposed by foreigners. If a superior foreign force were to occupy the Philippines again and demand we worship... SQUIDS for example eventually people will abandon what they believe in and start worshiping SQUIDS. Only in rare sets of people do you see them stick to there religious beliefs even if it means they will die. Originally Posted by mazdamazda
St Lorenzo Ruiz is one example of someone dying for one's beliefs. Si Lapu-Lapu also killed to protect his way of life.
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April 11th, 2005 01:13 PM #17YUP. Though that is before (heck that was hundreds of years ago). For today, it is up to you if you want to worship SQUIDS when someone invades us. :bwahaha: Originally Posted by OTO
Btw, Americans didn't coerce Filipinos to Protestantism. If they did, we wouldn't be predominantly Catholic right now.
Right now you can a wide variety of choices... from the traditional Roman Catholic to the more controversial Ang Dating Daan...
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