Prophecy of Nostradamus

[city]

yes I know naman that they are jews. If Christians want to wage war on some religious people, it should be Israel bec. they were responsible for the death/suffering of the Christ. (just like what Hitler did)

But recent world events really confuse me.

* how come the mighty US of A came to the rescue of Israel when Saddam launched scud missiles on Israel during the Gulf war? (this move was a big risk on the Americans bec. they might lose some Arab nation members of the coalition)?

*how come a small country like Israel continues to portray a strong military influence in an area surrounded by enemies. (we all know naman na like Japan in Asia, matindi ang support ng US military sa Israel)

could it be that the Bushes are Jewish-Americans?

or

could it be that the Israel serves as a very important strategic place for reasons yet unknown for the common Jew and Christians alike?

could the land of Israel play an important role in our future and the future of our world? (just like the promised land of the O.T.)

Your first statement is antisemitism. Much of this idea springed from the bible kasi nga jews daw ang dahilan ng pagkamatay ni cristo pero mismo si cristo e hudio so parang mali di ba? Ang talgang pumatay kay cristo e mga romans not the jews. The jews were under the romans at that time.

ang alam ko malaki kinikita ng US sa Israel....they are allies. Allies help each other during wars.

It was the british who helped install a jewish state sa arab land na yun. Why? The jews paid the british to get the land. Why get the land? Jews have long been persecuted, to solve the problem they must have their own state. They chose the palestine land as their belief tells them it's their land.

The palestinians believe otherwise. They believe it's their land. So ang istorya talga nito ay kanino ang lupang ito. Both the israel and the palestinians claim it's their land. Kaya yun gerahan sila ng gerahan.

[mazdamazda]

Israel is not a christian nation. Those people are jews...and their religion is different from christians. way different. they couldnt care less about christians as they dont believe in jesus christ as the messiah.

Both religions are Abrahamic.

The only difference between the two religions is that the Jews are "stuck" with the Old Testament while the Christians have the New Testament along with the Old Testament.

yes I know naman that they are jews. If Christians want to wage war on some religious people, it should be Israel bec. they were responsible for the death/suffering of the Christ. (just like what Hitler did)

Well... not really... if you take in the Christian context... they were an instrument in fulfilling's Jesus Christ's destiny.

But recent world events really confuse me.

* how come the mighty US of A came to the rescue of Israel when Saddam launched scud missiles on Israel during the Gulf war? (this move was a big risk on the Americans bec. they might lose some Arab nation members of the coalition)?

*how come a small country like Israel continues to portray a strong military influence in an area surrounded by enemies. (we all know naman na like Japan in Asia, matindi ang support ng US military sa Israel)

could it be that the Bushes are Jewish-Americans?

Israel has a strong military & economic influence even from the start. When the Israel nation was established by the UN in the 1940s, money poured in from Jews around the world to fund their nation.

And the USA has been supporting Israel since time immemorial... today it is to the tune of $2-3 billion / year (with more than half going to military expenditures).

could it be that the Israel serves as a very important strategic place for reasons yet unknown for the common Jew and Christians alike?

could the land of Israel play an important role in our future and the future of our world? (just like the promised land of the O.T.)

If you read the Revelations... Israel plays an important role in the end times. If you believe the rapture theory, all those who believe in God will be taken physically to heaven. Who will be left are the Jews & non-believers. It will be up to Israel to stand against the army led by the anti-Christ (200 million mounted troops to be exact). This will be last war on earth - Armageddon!

[Monseratto]

yes I know naman that they are jews. If Christians want to wage war on some religious people, it should be Israel bec. they were responsible for the death/suffering of the Christ. (just like what Hitler did - A christian extremist and his less famous ally the Italians - the Vatican state's brother

But recent world events really confuse me.

* how come the mighty US of A came to the rescue of Israel when Saddam launched scud missiles on Israel during the Gulf war? (this move was a big risk on the Americans bec. they might lose some Arab nation members of the coalition)?

*how come a small country like Israel continues to portray a strong military influence in an area surrounded by enemies. (we all know naman na like Japan in Asia, matindi ang support ng US military sa Israel)

could it be that the Bushes are Jewish-Americans?

or

could it be that the Israel serves as a very important strategic place for reasons yet unknown for the common Jew and Christians alike?

could the land of Israel play an important role in our future and the future of our world? (just like the promised land of the O.T.)

The Jewish Community holds a very big influence in the US. But ibang klase ang influence nila, pati media hawak nila doon.

[oldblue]

Israel has a strong military & economic influence even from the start. When the Israel nation was established by the UN in the 1940s, money poured in from Jews around the world to fund their nation.

And the USA has been supporting Israel since time immemorial... today it is to the tune of $2-3 billion / year (with more than half going to military expenditures).

sir *mazdamazda, I remember back in college or HS ata on a world history topic about Israel. Shortly after WW2, Israel militarized all of their citizens from students aged less than 10, teachers, doctors, engineers etc etc . This was their response after being nearly annihilated by the Nazi Germans. Add to that, the brewing war between their nation and the surrounding Arab nations. They learned their lesson ika nga and they vowed never to be overpowered by another foreign power.

and that's why today, they are revered as one of the great military powers of modern times.

If you read the Revelations... Israel plays an important role in the end times. If you believe the rapture theory, all those who believe in God will be taken physically to heaven. Who will be left are the Jews & non-believers. It will be up to Israel to stand against the army led by the anti-Christ (200 million mounted troops to be exact). This will be last war on earth - Armageddon!

well, then that maybe the answer! Nostradamus or not, pati revelation pala in tune sa prediction ng doomsday war scenario. and Israel will still play an important role just like older times.

[GasJunkie]

I hear 200m employees would be the the target number of toyota.

[Monseratto]

and that's why today, they are revered as one of the great military powers of modern times.

In Yom Kippur War of 1973, Israel nearly lost to the Arabs if not for Uncle Sam. The US had to pull from their existing weapon inventory to save them from being overun. It is a country run with billions in American AID, it nearly went bankrupt last year that then PM Sharon had to go Washington to beg for more moolah.

[mazdamazda]

In Yom Kippur War of 1973, Israel nearly lost to the Arabs if not for Uncle Sam. The US had to pull from their existing weapon inventory to save them from being overun. It is a country run with billions in American AID, it nearly went bankrupt last year that then PM Sharon had to go Washington to beg for more moolah.

Yup.

Since no European nation will supply arms to Israel over a threatened oil embargo.

But all the fighting was done by the IDF - and they came close to invading Syria and wiping out Egypt's army.

[badkuk]

Yom Kippur war = Seven Day's War? the way a former teacher described it to us, parang sisiw na sisiw ang Egypt-Syria-etc combo sa Israel. then again, the guy was in TV evangelist mode

[Eismann]

City: Medyo out of topic na pero related pa rin sa Nostradamus' prophecy....now we are asking a question about whether we believe in God or whatever His plan is. If God exists is indeed a reputable concept especially for folks of varying intellects. For us RC's, we can really prove He exists or what His plan is but that would be included siguro in another thread or baka may similar thread na in the past.

Prophecies are indeed fiction or fictitious in a sense. But if you trust in your Creator, whoever He is, he will not let any harm fall on you as in the "endtimes". This is all you need to believe I guess and life will go on as you know it.

[mazdamazda]

Yom Kippur war = Seven Day's War? the way a former teacher described it to us, parang sisiw na sisiw ang Egypt-Syria-etc combo sa Israel. then again, the guy was in TV evangelist mode

Nope...

Iba pa ang Six Days War (1960s). 1970s yung Yom Kippur / Ramadan War.

Hirap rin ang Israel since ang dami nilang kalaban... yun nga lang... mas experienced and determined sila... against sa mga conscripted soldiers ng kalaban.

[badsekktor]

OT reply: God is good! man is imperfect. religion established by man. thus religion is bound to interpretations of man. IMO religions can be compared to semantics or the way to worship god. the problem lies when these group of people(religion) believe that their way of worship is the right way compared to the other group. But they are still worshipping the same god...

para di OT. di ako naniniwala sa mga predictions na yan! kung talagang totoo mga manghuhula, challenge ko sila kung ano oras ako eebak! yun eksakto pati segundo. pag nahulaan nila yun kakainin ko ebak ko!

[uls]

The West (white, male, racist, very rich, very powerful people) will do all they can to maintain the status quo.

And what is the status quo? Instability in the world.

Why does instability in the world favor the West?

Money.

If u have billions of dollars, would u keep that money in a Philippine bank? Or a Chinese bank? or a Pakistani bank? or an African Bank?

No... u would keep it in a US or European bank. why? they are stable.

If ur a Saudi prince making hundreds of millions of dollars a day exporting oil, where would u put all that money? In US stocks, bonds and treasuries.

If ur China... the factory of the world... making billions from exports... where do u put ur money? US treasuries.

Instability is good for the West. And WAR creates instability.

Thats the status quo.


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the reason why the West is so dominant in the world is coz they control the world's financial system. They basically determine the fate of nations.

Here's an example: When Hamas was elected into power by the Palestinians, the West wasnt really worried. They knew for any govt to function, it needed money.

Since Hamas will not recognize the legitimacy of Israel and says the Israel should be wiped out from the face of the world, the West simply stopped financial support for the new Palestinian govt.

Even if other countries sympathetic to Hamas are willing to send Hamas money , the money has to go thru the banking system which the West controls. So the money is stopped dead in its tracks.

[miLes]

The West (white, male, racist, very rich, very powerful people) will do all they can to maintain the status quo.

And what is the status quo? Instability in the world.

Why does instability in the world favor the West?

Money.

If u have billions of dollars, would u keep that money in a Philippine bank? Or a Chinese bank? or a Pakistani bank? or an African Bank?

No... u would keep it in a US or European bank. why? they are stable.

If ur a Saudi prince making hundreds of millions of dollars a day exporting oil, where would u put all that money? In US stocks, bonds and treasuries.

If ur China... the factory of the world... making billions from exports... where do u put ur money? US treasuries.

Instability is good for the West. And WAR creates instability.

Thats the status quo.

question ku lang logic mu, instability creates money? where's the connection? i mean if im a country at war i will be putting my money on war funds not US stocks bonds etc. so not favorable sa kanila yun, correct me if im wrong

[uls]

All the world's money flows back into the US and European banks.

The money earned by the oil producers in the middle east goes back into the US economy. (Saudi Arabia hold billions of dollars worth of shares in US companies).

The money earned by China is placed in US T-bills.

Every rich man has a dollar account in a Western Bank.

Because America and Europe are stable.

The rest of the world is unstable.

That's why instability favors the West.

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If im a country at war, like for example if the Philippines is invaded by another country or falls into civil war, what will people here do? They dump the peso and buy dollars and wire transfer the dollars to US banks.

U will not have faith in any philippine bank if the Phil. govt is going to collapse.

That favors the US banks.

Again, the instability in many regions in the world makes people look towards the US and Europe coz they are the only ones with a financial system u can trust. Lalo na if u have billions.

[Monseratto]

Nope...

Iba pa ang Six Days War (1960s). 1970s yung Yom Kippur / Ramadan War.

Hirap rin ang Israel since ang dami nilang kalaban... yun nga lang... mas experienced and determined sila... against sa mga conscripted soldiers ng kalaban.

Six Day War was in 1967, where Israel made a suprised attack on Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. They captured the West Bank, Sinai, and the Bekaa Valley and the Gaza Strip. The Yom Kippur War was in 1973, were the Arabs suprised attack the Jews on the holiest day in the Jewish Calendar, Passover. The Arabs used the latest Soviet Anti-aircraft missle, the SAM-6. Nearly a hundred Israeli aircraft were lost to this new weapon. Egypt was able to recapture the Sinai Peninsula but lost it again when the Israelis were resupplied by the US. Israeli troops were near Cairo when Egypt sued for a ceasefire.

[BlueBimmer]

Uls got a point..lalo na dictator type countries..

[mazdamazda]

Hmmm... Israel bombs Lebanon yesterday...

Balls of steel...

[uls]

Israel has balls coz the US is on its side. Notice that Bush didnt condemn Israel for its actions. Instead Bush said Israel has the right to defend itself. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...l=chi-news-hed

[RedHorse]

developing story yan ah... oil hits 78!

[uls]

Everyone knows Lebanon's Hezbollah is backed by Syria and Iran.

Israel's attack on Lebanon could bring Syria and Iran into the war. And that would be a very big war.

The US is having problems with Iran's crazy president and its nuclear program. But the US can't do anything about it (like a pre-emptive strike) coz Bush's popularity has sunk way low coz of the war in Iraq. It would be political suicide if Bush attacks Iran. Same with Syria. The US can't attack Syria even if everyone knows Syria backs terrorists.

Now, if Israel provokes Syria and Iran into a war, that would give the US a good excuse for attacking Syria and Iran. And that would also give Israel a good reason to nuke those Arab states.

I hope Syria and Iran see what the US and Israel is trying to do. I hope they dont fall for it. Malaking gulo yan.

We will probably be seeing P100 per liter gas...