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    #41
    pagpalagay na natin na on hold muna ang oath taking, what then??? ganun din naman tutuloy din naman yun eventually... palagay ko dapat tuloy na lang...

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    #42
    They're going to have a very hard time proving who cheated and who didn't. But at least this highlights the lack of security and professionalism (that's a laugh) in our current PRC exams.

    Favorite board exam question (from a PT board, I suppose): "What disorder does Joey de Leon have in the movie 'She-man'?"

    This was an actual question. Okay, in a joking sort of way, as a bonus item on a College pop quiz, but on a Professional Board? Extra points for the guy who can answer the question...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #43
    update on this issue... on the 14th there will be a court hearing regarding the TRO on the nursing oath taking... true that it will be hard to prove who cheated and not but we must do something about this issue... this really concerns everyone, not only within the profession but everyone...

    just a question to our concerned citizens... would you allow a nurse of batch 2006 take care of you when you or a family member is admitted and sick in a the hospital knowing the fact that there is a cloud of doubt wether they really passed honestly or by chance of leakage? knowing that this nurse is the one who will give the medications and other treatments ordered by doctors... we are thinking of public safety here guys...

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by jvdejesus05 View Post
    just a question to our concerned citizens... would you allow a nurse of batch 2006 take care of you when you or a family member is admitted and sick in a the hospital knowing the fact that there is a cloud of doubt wether they really passed honestly or by chance of leakage?

    oo nman... di naman sa isang board exam lang end all and be all ng nursing... thru experience, seminars, training... nasa hospital na ang pag-assess ng employees nila...

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    #45
    Para sa akin, dapat retake talaga.

    Even though this will not stop future leakage, it should deter organizations, examinees from getting these.

    Sure, there are cost sa re-take...financially and also mental stress. Pero mas mahirap pag may doubt sa integrity ng mga board exams....kahit "passed" ka the last time.

    We also have to remember that passing the board exam doesn't neccessarily make one a "better" nurse. But this control measure has to be in place to assure the a certain level of competence required sa mga "professionals".

    Health care ito!

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    #46
    Hehe, bakit ba kasi may pumiyok?

    Kung tama ang dinig ko, may ilang hospitals na nagsabing hindi sila tatanggap ng mga 2006 graduates. Kung magmamatigas ang mga graduates, sa tingin ko pwede silang gipitin ng mga hospitals. Kailangan nila ng work experience para makaalis, right? Wala na silang magagawa, ipako nila sa krus yung pumiyok.

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    #47
    dapat retake, tama nga sabi nung iba na paano mo malalman na nag benefit and isang student sa leakage or not, bobo talaga kasi yan PRC eh dapat mag resign na yun head, hinde kasi nila dapat nilabas ang result ng board until matapos yun investigation, they thought kasi na pag nilabas nila matatahimik na yun mga students, lalo tuloy nagkagulo ngayon...

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    dapat retake, tama nga sabi nung iba na paano mo malalman na nag benefit and isang student sa leakage or not, bobo talaga kasi yan PRC eh dapat mag resign na yun head, hinde kasi nila dapat nilabas ang result ng board until matapos yun investigation, they thought kasi na pag nilabas nila matatahimik na yun mga students, lalo tuloy nagkagulo ngayon...
    totoo to... dapat talaga kasi di muna sila nagrelease ng results...

    some facts about the issue:
    1. as early as june 13, the day after the board exam, a manuscript containing the questions in tests 3 & 5 were already given to BON members and PRC to tell them that a leakage has happened, what did they do, they still said to the media that there was no "glaring" leakage...

    2. before the PRC released the results, ADPCN (Assoc. of Deans of Philippine Colleges of Nursing) already talked to the chair and officers not to release the result until the investigation is over because surely "chaos" will happen, what did they do, they still went on and released the board results...

    3. a TRO was ordered to hold the Aug. 22 oath-taking until further notice, what did they do again, they fast-tracked the oath taking as early as Aug. 17 & 18 texting and calling every nurse who passed the recent board exam to take their oath at the PRC auditorium or to any official granted authority to give the oath... Lastly...

    4. the congress was giving the PRC a budget to fund the exam for the retake and some private groups are even offering their financial support for the students not to pay any amount in case of a retake, but lastly, what did they do, they turned it down and said that their decision is final...

    just my thoughts... why is it that PRC is neglecting all the offers and suggestions being given to them? are they hiding something in which they are afraid to come out in the open public?

    these are just my sentiments being a concerned citizen...

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    #49
    Retake na lang. If you honestly passed it the first time, i don't see any reason why you can't the second time. It's just an exam.

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    #50
    and talagang mali yun pag count nila ng mga pumasa dahil inalis nila almost 80% or 90% ng test 3 and 5 so it means bumaba ang passing cutoff grades ng mga pumasa, dahil if they stick to the old passing mark eh di dapat bagsak lahat dahil bagsak ka na in 2 out of 5 tests, so it means hinde talaga deserving pumasa

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    #51
    i know they are just expressing their own opinion, but i get sick when i see and hear students who dont want a retake. to me, mejo indi swak ang mga arguments nila.

    retake na para ala ng problema.

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    #52
    Para akin lang naman, dapat mag retake na lang yung mga nag review sa mga review centers na, na involve at saka yung mga schools na ang dean ay nagsi-attend ng final coaching sa SM Manila. Paano naman yung nagsikap at pumasa naman sa sariling kayod. Regarding sa mga nurses napumasa na nagtratrabaho sa hospitals, naku, Kung alam nyo lang ang mga kapalpakan, ang dami kong naririnig. Pero hindi lang nurses ha pati clerks at interns din. namamatayan ng dengue, hindi dahil huli na ng isugod sa hospital kundi dahil sa negligence, sayang yung buhay. By the way, i heard na 2 out of 3 sa cum laude ng ust ay bumagsak sa nakaraang nursing board exam? paki confirm kung tutoo. It means sigurado ako na talagang magaling yung mga batang yun, kaya lang hindi lang naman board exam ang sukatan ng lahat ng galing, although part yun ng process.

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    #53
    RE: Students who don't want to retake.

    It's perfectly understandable. Even if you give the students the retake for free, by the time they retake the exam, they'll be rusty, and they'll need to review.

    Reviewing for a Board Exam as difficult as the Nursing Board takes at least five to six months at a review center. The student will have to spend a lot of money for the re-review (face it, seeing as how even cum laudes can fail the exam, no one is suicidal enough to re-take without re-reviewing) and those who are working to support themselves will have to miss another few months of work.

    I agree that there's no other way to make sure all these nurses are legit, but a retake will cost everyone else (not just the PRC) millions.

    Better bet? We can't trust the PRC at all, they're compromised and they don't want to admit it. Shut it down, and have an outside group give the test... or better yet, give the NCLEX, which 90% of these passers are already reviewing for anyway.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #54
    ito ba yung leakage na sinasabi nila sa nursing?

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    #55
    hahaha ayos ka pare! yan nga cguro ang leakage.. hehehehe

    seriously, im a nursing student, supposed to be na dapat graduate na ako nung march pa, but due to the MONEY MAKING of my school, na-hold ako at hndi nila ako pina-graduate, 1 week before the graduation nilabas ang official list ng graduates nmin at unfortunately, hndi nila ako pina-graduate.. buti nlng blessing in disguise cguro sakin kung bkit hndi ako kumuha ng board exam last june..

    but going back to the leakage thing, it's true na may leakage na nangyayari noon pa man.. kaya nga ako nag enroll sa isang review center noon dahil may cnasabi silang leak sa exam.. in some of the questions are true na lumalabas sa board exam.. kaya nga naging sikat ang ibang review centers around the metro kse dumadami ang nag eenroll sa knila..

    bkit ba nagkaroon ng review centers? dahil due to the demand thing of filipino nurses abroad, nagsulputan parang kabute ang mga nursing school, it was a very good business to put up a nursing school, masyadong hndi na-control ng government ang pag approve sa mga institutions kahit kulang sila sa kaalaman. kaya nagkakaroon ng gap between the schools and the students dahil hndi nabibigay ng nursing professors ang sapat na knowledge para magturo ng nursing.. dahil sa madaming nursing schools, kokonti nman ang mga skilled at knowledgeable professors para magturo.. minsan dalawang schools ang tinuturuan ng mga nursing instructors..

    if u compare sa mga medicine at law students na hndi kelangan ng review centers para makapasa ng board exam, makikita mo sa kanila yng sipag at tiyaga mag aral.. db mas mahirap pa ang med at law compared sa nursing?

    and for my stand about the retake thing, for me, kelangan din cguro ng retake sa exam, though some of my classmates ayaw nila ng retake because hassle daw, etc... but the thing is ang RETAKE exam will be a new set of questionnaires, so LAHAT ng nursing students pantay-pantay, walang makakalamang.. kung ikaw ba nman ay isang student na full of confidence and have the enough knowledge about nursing, wla ka dapat ikabahala sa board exam.. and of course, your Faith in God will also help you in passing.. sensya na at nobela ang sinulat ko. hehehe

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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Retake na lang. If you honestly passed it the first time, i don't see any reason why you can't the second time. It's just an exam.
    May idea ka ba how much time, money, effort and sacrifices to take another exam? Easy for you to say hijo.

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    #57
    i for one know how much time, money and sacrifices one has undergo to take another exam... but think of this way, you are banking to clear you of your profession from any doubt... let's be honest here, people would say that they wouldn't discriminate those who took the june 2006 NLE but behind their minds there's doubt if they are really deserving in the profession... one more thing, IMO, most of those who are protesting and saying that they don't want a retake are second coursers (i'm not pertaining to all but generally speaking) and they are not protesting for a NO RETAKE because they want to give their services to the public whole heartedly as nurse but because they already want to leave the country and earn big bucks in the US or other countries... most of them have self vested interest in the profession that's why they took up nursing... they did not take up nursing because they really want to serve others but because they know that they can a lot of money because of the profession... i myself am a nurse and i don't have any plans of going to another country (that's TRUE)... if you want to check it, i don't have any applications to go to another country... not that i'm a martyr or what, but because i love my profession and i love what i'm doing and i'm contended with my work here in the philippines...

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    #58
    well said sir jvdejesus.. just in case na walang retake na mangyayari, mas magiging strict ang mga hospitals/institutions in hiring nurses from the june 2006 passers? who will suffer? syempre yng board passers.. we know na hassle at time consuming ang retake, but mapipilitan ang mga ibang hospitals na magbigay pa ng screening specially sa mga june board passers, which is good nman kse they will know kung cno tlaga ang may enough knowledge sa nursing..and being a nurse, hndi lng knowledge ang kelangan.. skills and devotion sa trabaho ang dapat meron ka..

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    #59
    Quote Originally Posted by space invader View Post
    and for my stand about the retake thing, for me, kelangan din cguro ng retake sa exam, though some of my classmates ayaw nila ng retake because hassle daw, etc... but the thing is ang RETAKE exam will be a new set of questionnaires, so LAHAT ng nursing students pantay-pantay, walang makakalamang.. kung ikaw ba nman ay isang student na full of confidence and have the enough knowledge about nursing, wla ka dapat ikabahala sa board exam.. and of course, your Faith in God will also help you in passing.. sensya na at nobela ang sinulat ko. hehehe

    ganun din stand ng pinsan ko. he passed the test without any problem and he is willing to retake it kahit di siya nag-review dun sa center na nagleakage daw. i agree din, if a retake ng lahat is needed to clear up the now-tainted nursing, then so be it.

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    #60
    honestly, speaking medyo gulat ako sa mga reactions and comments ng mga taga-tsikot... it's a good thing that there are people like you guys who are very open minded... it's just sad to say na kung sino pa yung nasa authority to do the decision making e sila pa yung close minded people... hope everything will turn out for the best... btw, guys please pray for the profession, tomorrow there will be a court hearing regarding this issue... we need all the help and prayers that we can get to get through this problem... maganda kasi kung maayos tong prob na ito at maitama para naman gumanda din ang tingin na ibang bansa sa atin...

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