Not everything in the Bible is true...

[CoDer]

Old Testament is not Christianity, since Christianity involves a new relationship between man and God, and also because the Old Testament is clearly written only for Jews. The Old Testament is however, understood as the foundations on which the New Testament rests.

No longer applicable. Nasa new convenant na po tayo.

[empy]

:lurk:

[Chip]

time to sit back and watch the fireworks fly

bb.. penge popcorn hehehe

[city]

hello coder.....not again. other forumers are kinda sensitive regarding the topic...i will try my best not to sound disrespectful. can't help but comment on a few things.

i believe the bible is not the word of god...hehehe why should i..i dont believe in any god in the first place. For me the bible is more of a jewish history coupled with myths and fables. this may sound disrespectful to some but this is just what i see when i tried reading the bible myself. Some people may have read good passages from the bible but have not tried reading the whole bible....and yes..the bible has many interpretations and revisions...as thomas paine has said...why on earth would god allow his words be translated differently and createconfusions? I suggest people try to read thomas paine's article regarding the bible. I read it and it makes sense to me although i'm not a believer. I think the title is "THE AGE OF REASON". take time to read it.

I just dont buy stories from the bible that man can walk on water, talking donkeys, parting of sea, stick turning into serpent, man surviving 3 days in a whale's belly, the great flood.

aside from this, there are many contradictions in the bible..i could post some but I elect not to.

Also, I've noticed, in the OT, god directly talks to man and man to god..then all of sudden in the new testament, god never talked to man directly... I just find it odd.

advance apologies to anyone offended by this post.

coder..you can't just dismissed the OT because we are now in the new covenant.

[CoDer]

Hehehehe.... Arayyy...

[Psylocke]

I'm really tired of religion... can't we just do away with it? It only creates conflict between people...

[1D4LV]

OT: curious lang.. ano meron kay bro coder tsaka kay bro city?

[wren]

over/under is 10 pages...sinong gustong pumusta?

anyway, don't let us distract you guys, if you have an opinion about the subject matter... :debate:

[theveed]

I'm really tired of religion... can't we just do away with it? It only creates conflict between people...

My thoughts exactly...

[BlueBimmer]

Popcorns for everyone! Butter and BBQ flavor available!

hehe sorry cant resist :D

[falken]

That does it! Starting today I'm gonna be an Atheist! But in the meantime, if there's still some popcorn...

[laracroft]

akala ko ba kasalanan ang pumatay? bakit puro kamatayan ang parusa sa mga yan?

old testament kasi yan sir.
an "eye for an eye" pa po diyan.
under the law pa kasi.

sa new testament,
"love your enemies" na
at under grace na po,
di na law.

[theveed]

Baket kasi kailangan may kinatatakutan pa na entity na di naman makita para lang masabing "you're a do-gooder"...

If there's one word I really despise, it's "GOD FEARING..."

Ano man religion yan... Anong klaseng supreme being ang kailangan na kinatatakutan pa ng mga followers... So ibig sabihin hindi free-will ang pagsunod sa dyos.

Kaya madaming kaplastikan ang nangyayari sa mga fanatic sa religions... "do it for god, do it for allah, do it for E.T."

Just do it... ika nga.

[mazdamazda]

IMO

people should look past the "organized" religion that most people know and talk about and just deal with the spiritiual aspect of it.

if that's the stand of the Catholic Church, then let it be...

if you don't agree with it, say your piece in a nice manner...

respect for the belief of others should be the bottomline. we don't all think alike but that's the beauty of being a human being.

[baiskee]

o, sino na lamang? hehe

manuod na lang kayo sa alitan ng INC at DD.

[laracroft]

Revelation xix,20

"And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.”

untrue?

grabe! i can't believe they declare this to be untrue.
para na rin nila sinabing walang hell.
the bible is talking about what will happen to satan
after armaggedon, if i am not mistaken.

[Flagg]

Konting explanation lang po:

Orly & boybi: lahat yan Old Testament which is a Nazarenic interpretation of Jewish books. Sa mga Nazarene po noon "put to death" ibig sabihin expel sa community of the "living" (mga Nazarene lang ang living... everyone else is "dead" - mga unenlightened). Kumbaga "dead." Pero pede rin mabuhay uli. Kaya may resurrection belief & ceremony - baptism. Para living uli.

Yung sa mens ***. Living apart ibig sabihin kasi still "living" kayo pero di kayo makasali sa mga religious activities kasi "unclean" kayo.

Galing po sa Nazarene tradition yung Roman Catholicism. Kaya nga po Jesus of Nazareth.

Coder: Karamihan po ng nasa bible allegorical. Meron din mga wrong translation (eg. Sea of Reeds naging Red Sea). Pero the interpretation of the Word of God, never ending story yan. Every generation same book, new revelation.

Btw, hilig ko lang po theology. The most important interpretation is your own.

[Flagg]

City & psylocke (mmm yummy!) & theveed:
imho lang po, try reading "The Wager" by Blaise Pascal. OK yun for argument for religion.

City: Re Thomas Paine: kaya po maraming pede ma-interpret sa Bible is the concept of "free will" na ibinigay po ni God to man. Analogy: where would you rather live - in a true, freedom loving democracy? or with bin Laden - who has only 1 strict interpretation of the Koran. Including dying for Allah and go to Paradise where you will be served by 70 houri (virgins). (ehehe medyo OK din yun, kung hilig virgin ka. ;) )

[Flagg]

laracroft: St. John was a raving lunatic by the time he wrote Revelation at Patmos (parang ipinasok sya sa mental ng mga Romans). Maswerte nga sya di sya itinapon sa mga lions. Revelation is one of the hardest books to interpret, honestly di ko alam bakit nasali pa iyon, pero God must have His reasons.

[theveed]

flagg: Sige hanap ako nun

OT, alam mo bang racist flag ang confederate flag hehe.