Not everything in the Bible is true...

**CLAVEL3699** · February 17th, 2006 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by flagg

laracroft: St. John was a raving lunatic by the time he wrote Revelation at Patmos (parang ipinasok sya sa mental ng mga Romans). Maswerte nga sya di sya itinapon sa mga lions. Revelation is one of the hardest books to interpret, honestly di ko alam bakit nasali pa iyon, pero God must have His reasons.

hehehe sinagot mo na ang sinabi mo

**oldblue** · February 17th, 2006 04:51 PM

this is disturbing indeed. ano nga ba ulit yun prophecy about the 3rd great war, sisimulan daw ng two warring popes. The faithful in Europe will be divided sa isang rising candidate for pope vs. the Vatican pope.

**theveed** · February 17th, 2006 05:02 PM

Mortal Combat style ba? hehe...

**oldblue** · February 17th, 2006 05:04 PM

tingin ko revelation was not omitted to strike fear in the hearts of the people so that they can willingly submit themselves sa infant Roman Empire. We owe our civilization to this bec. it stopped the barbaric ways of the ancient people. Incidentally, most new york biz and elite like to study the Roman Empire kasi nga ang dami-dami matutunan aral to control and to misdirect people hehehe ...

well not that I'm for limitless spiritual & physical freedom, mas maganda na yun ganyan for all. "Have it your way" never really works. Burger king nga sumuko sa pinoy eh hehehe.

**niky** · February 17th, 2006 05:59 PM

BELIEVE IT OR NOT

UNTRUE

Genesis ii, 21-22

So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; and the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man

Genesis iii, 16

God said to the woman [after she was beguiled by the serpent]: “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”

Matthew xxvii, 25

The words of the crowd: “His blood be on us and on our children.”

Revelation xix,20

And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.”

TRUE

Exodus iii, 14

God reveals himself to Moses as: “I am who I am.”

Leviticus xxvi,12

“I will be your God, and you shall be my people.”

Exodus xx,1-17

The Ten Commandments

Matthew v,7

The Sermon on the Mount

Mark viii,29

Peter declares Jesus to be the Christ

Luke i

The Virgin Birth

John xx,28

Proof of bodily resurrection

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You'll note that some of the disputed passages are also in the Gospel, not just in the Old Testament and Revelations.

After having grown up and learned of the history of the world and of world religions (avid reader here), I've often wondered at how fanatical people can be about the veracity of the Bible given that it comes from many different sources and many different times. The OT and NT are obviously from two different religions, with the blood and thunder Yahweh of old becoming the merciful and forgiving God as preached by Jesus Christ. The OT God was a xenophobe, urging his people to war on Palestinians, sacking their cities and claiming their lands. The NT God, through Jesus, preached about the "Good Samaritan" and encouraged better relation with the Gentiles.

The Bible is not just one book. It is six dozen books written by different authors, at different times, with different aims and intent. It's really time for Christianity to sift through this morass of writing and rediscover the parts of the Bible that [b]actually pertain to being a Christian... a believer of Christ... and not just another fundamentalist hardliner... a species too common to Judaic religions (that includes Jewish and Muslim fundamentalists and traditionalists).

**DoctorDoom** · February 17th, 2006 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by laracroft

untrue?

grabe! i can't believe they declare this to be untrue.
para na rin nila sinabing walang hell.
the bible is talking about what will happen to satan
after armaggedon, if i am not mistaken.

What they meant was, it is "untrue" if you will take the literal interpretation of the passage.

**DoctorDoom** · February 17th, 2006 06:04 PM

Why is it that all the dramatic miracles mentioned in the Bible (parting of the Red Sea, Noah's flood, burning bush, talking mountain, etc.) only took place within the Bible's pages? Why aren't they taking place today or when exactly did these miracles stop?

Could it be that all these miracles in the Bible were meant to be taken "symbolically" as well?

**falken** · February 17th, 2006 06:35 PM

For me, just believe in God unconditionally, no questions asked. If you keep on listening to religious debates, it'll only leave you confused. Do good things, get on with your life and leave the rest to Him. My 2 cents.