Not everything in the Bible is true...

[CoDer]

ever wonder why even earth is called mother and countries are called mothers>?

Hehehehe... I wouldn't bother.

[city]

Mas malala pa ang mga linya ko dati. Pinagsisihan ko yun.

i'm guessing you were not an atheist before....just a hunch..you were probably an agnostic before...again just a hunch.

Atheism is an honest and positive position. And if ever an atheist gets converted to become a believer , which i doubt, he/she will only regret the things he/she did that did not benefit anybody.

[zildjian]

This reminds me of Samuel L. Jackson's lines in M. Night Shyamalan's Unbreakable about comic books... an exaggeration of the truth, but based on truth nonetheless.

Also a lot must have been lost in translation. Even the word Yahweh was created during translation. Some words have been replaced because nothing comes close to the original words.

The word YaHWeH was the closest when pronounced. How to say correctly the four letter word (tetragrammaton - YHWH) was lost and the best they can do is add those vowels. Jehovah isn't even correct since hovah has a bad meaning, it means mischief. hehe... nobody wants to name their God with that one obviously.

[zildjian]

that has been a puzzle to me ever since, why was yaweh or god of the O.T., anti-egyptian? and he had to call on Moses (son of a Jew turned Egyptian prince) to free the Jews/Israelites from slavery. and then Yaweh led them to a promise land, which was already owned by the Palestinians. Why land grab? hehehe. Thousands of year later, gyera pa din sa lugar na yun (Palestine vs. Israel of modern times). what is so special about that place that they had to leave Egypt - a mystical and a very important place to brush aside ->

"The precise location and placement of the Great Pyramid on Earth give us the first pointer to it being a building of supreme importance. For it is located on the longest land contact meridian on the Earth's surface and is placed at the geographical centre of the total land mass of the Earth. If one is to send a message the prime requirement is of course that people will read it, it is no good putting it in a bottle, throwing it in the ocean and then hoping it will be found. One must place the message somewhere where it simply cannot be missed, a place so significant that its very location makes a notable statement in itself.

the latitude of the pyramid site 30 degrees north, is exactly one third of the distance from the Equator to the North Pole. Placed at the northern extremity of a range of hills commanding the entire plain of Lower Egypt, the Great Pyramid stands at the very centre of Egypt at a place that could also be described as the centre of the world.

there were no palestinians during that time. the palestinians of today are the arabs who leave peacefully before with the jews before the world wars started. the original people of canaan/palestine during that time were called jebusites, anakites, moabites, philistines (they are not the palestinians), and several other tribes/people with the word -------ites.

[city]

Amen brother!

sana umabot na sa 10 pages to, sayang kasi yung pusta ko.......

it's more than 10 pages now....how much did you win?...where's my 20%?....lolx

[empy]

grabe na mga sagot dito...diko na ma take!!

kakaiba...

welcome to confusion city...population: you and me :bwahaha:

[111prez]

you might want to check this out, if you want to read some more about this discussion: http://www.allabouttruth.org/is-the-bible-true-c.htm

as a christian, i live by the tenets of the bible and believe in the salvation that Jesus has given us

[CoDer]

Yah city... just your hunch.

[theveed]

Ok, so let me see if i get this right .... you got married infront of the cross inside a Catholic church

Yes, so?

you celebrate Xmas, but you don't believe in Jesus Christ. Am i right?

I didn't say I celebrate the meaning of xmas, but we celebrate DURING the xmas break coz it's a time where families and friends get to gather together for a good time.

OldBlue: Yes, my son is baptised, my wife and her side of the family wanted to and there's no reason why I should say otherwise, when my son grows up and chooses another religion, that's his decision, if he sticks to being a Christian, that's his thing as well. As long as he doesn't go around killing people, robbing and other socially unacceptable deeds, what difference does it make?

The point of this thread is about whether or not the bible contents are factual, right? Pano umabot sa buhay namin hehe.

[jim]

For me everything in the bible is true <EOM>

[niky]

a question to atheists, would you have your first born baptized to enter Christianhood?

If my wife asks for it, of course. I'm not an atheist per se. I just believe that we cannot comprehend "God" even if he existed, and that whatever human face we give him is more of our own vanity than anything else.

Can you tell us what other religions have you studied and why they also failed to convince you of their "truth"?

I know City has answered this, but I've also read up on Hinduism, Taoism, Islam, Judaism and the differences between Catholicism and various Protestant groups (my Mom isn't Catholic, though she is, by birth, a Christian). The differences and the human suffering caused by many religions just turns me off of all organized religion.

A group of bishops said that not everything in the bible is true?

That's a pity... a pity for them. Me, I try to follow the example of Christ, not the example of church leaders. Jesus never cloistered himself. He immersed himself in people. He talked to them in public. He drank wine with them. He went into the house of known sinners and ate meal with them. He invited tax collectors to be his disciples and shown sympathy to prostitutes. Instead of choosing highly-educated Jews to be his apostles, he chose instead a bunch of misfits to be his 12 apostles. He taught people the Scriptures, he unmasked the hypocrisy of the Jewish elite. He healed the sick, heck he brought the dead Lazarus back to life! He cast out demons and forgave people their sins. He rise up early ahead of the others so he can be alone to pray. He often did this. Praying... alone.

He said to love to your enemies and pray for those who persecute you! What more can you ask of this man? He was born in a manger- amid the smell of animals and their excrement! The sanitized version of the Christmas tableu never had it right. He never had any money nor properties. From the moment he was born all he had was love for human beings and obedience to God's will. Even when he was dying he asked God to forgive those who mock him on the cross.

What more can you ask of this man? He said to love God above all else with everything you have and then to love your neighbor as you love yourself. For those who have faith, it makes perfect sense; including the so-called inaccuracies in the bible.

For those who want more... more proof, more explanation, more reason for believing, more miracles, more rational explanation, more freedom from an omnipotent God's influence... well, good luck! The message of Christ can fall on fertile or barren soil. You can believe or dismiss it.

It's your choice. For me, the bible is true. Not one word of it is a lie. If that is irrational, then I choose to be irrational on the side of the promised eternal life in God's presence.

Here's what I've been talking about. If we follow Jesus, then we shouldn't believe everything in the Bible. The hypocrisy of the Jewish elite that Jesus fought against, the strict Judaic laws (death for any crime!), everything they believed in came from the same scriptures sandwiched between the front covers of the Bible and the start of the New Testament.

Jesus fought against all of that, and now other Church leaders are falling back on the dogmatic position of the infallibility of old scripture. For me, these bishops fighting against the dogma in the Bible are following in the footsteps of Jesus... religion is supposed to be for the good of man, not for the good of religion... and in today's world, Bible-thumpers are forgetting that.

Again, I ask... who do you believe? Jesus, or the Bible?

[city]

If my wife asks for it, of course. I'm not an atheist per se. I just believe that we cannot comprehend "God" even if he existed, and that whatever human face we give him is more of our own vanity than anything else.



I know City has answered this, but I've also read up on Hinduism, Taoism, Islam, Judaism and the differences between Catholicism and various Protestant groups (my Mom isn't Catholic, though she is, by birth, a Christian). The differences and the human suffering caused by many religions just turns me off of all organized religion.



Here's what I've been talking about. If we follow Jesus, then we shouldn't believe everything in the Bible. The hypocrisy of the Jewish elite that Jesus fought against, the strict Judaic laws (death for any crime!), everything they believed in came from the same scriptures sandwiched between the front covers of the Bible and the start of the New Testament.

Jesus fought against all of that, and now other Church leaders are falling back on the dogmatic position of the infallibility of old scripture. For me, these bishops fighting against the dogma in the Bible are following in the footsteps of Jesus... religion is supposed to be for the good of man, not for the good of religion... and in today's world, Bible-thumpers are forgetting that.

Again, I ask... who do you believe? Jesus, or the Bible?

neither

[Luap]

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[city]

please pm me your atm card number and pin code so
that I can deposit your 20%

hahahaha...

[CoDer]

Again, I ask... who do you believe? Jesus, or the Bible?

Both of course, other combo doesn't mix.

Don't believe in Jesus but believe in the Bible or Don't believe in the Bible but believe in Jesus. Hilo aabutin mo nito.

Heheheee...

[kinyo]

One thing I find anomalous in the bible is the 3 lost years of Jesus.
What happened to Jesus during those years?
How come not one apostle wrote about it? Or maybe somebody wrote about it and i simply missed reading?
Did Jesus travel during those years? If yes, wouldn't he have told his apostles where he'd gone and whatever happened in those travels?
Maybe he has gone somewhere to study? Did he need to study?

[niky]

neither

I know you don't....

*CoDer: The question is for those times that Jesus' teachings and other scriptures in the Bible don't agree... which ones take precedence?

If you say Jesus, then it goes to follow that those other scriptures may also be incorrect about other matters,... correct?

Ika nga, the Bible is not written by God, but by Man. If that's the case, then I'd rather get my info straight from the Man, Jesus himself... yo!

[GlennSter]

haahhaha...
well..thanks to the aetheists out there.they make my faith in God even stronger.=)

just dont say anything bad or blasphemous..ill be offended. i dont like being offended.

[BlueBimmer]

[GlennSter]

alabyu