Not everything in the Bible is true...

[albert_b]

Ok, so let me see if i get this right .... you got married infront of the cross inside a Catholic church, you celebrate Xmas, but you don't believe in Jesus Christ. Am i right?

mukhang alam ko sagot dito ;-) ... kasi is esmi wants to get married sa church :-D hehe ... nangungulit lang po ... nasaan na yung boy bawang ko

[theveed]

Ok, so let me see if i get this right .... you got married infront of the cross inside a Catholic church

Yes, so?

you celebrate Xmas, but you don't believe in Jesus Christ. Am i right?

I didn't say I celebrate the meaning of xmas, but we celebrate DURING the xmas break coz it's a time where families and friends get to gather together for a good time.

OldBlue: Yes, my son is baptised, my wife and her side of the family wanted to and there's no reason why I should say otherwise, when my son grows up and chooses another religion, that's his decision, if he sticks to being a Christian, that's his thing as well. As long as he doesn't go around killing people, robbing and other socially unacceptable deeds, what difference does it make?

The point of this thread is about whether or not the bible contents are factual, right? Pano umabot sa buhay namin hehe.

[city]

Personally, Holy week = long vacation, that's about it... Buti nga may cable na coz nung bata ako walang cable puros religious shows lang nasa TV...

I got married both sa civil and church, but for me, the former is for legality, the latter is for formality... Neither of them are more important than the fact that I can now live with the one I love...

Xmas = Great time for kids... and gastos hehe... But it is a special time of the year if you're in the Phil coz people are just super duper extra nice to everybody... Which is a good thing. But the fact that people goes back to the way they normally are after a couple of days shows you the shallowness of Xmas.

my guess is...santa is more popular than jesus on christmas season.

[Flagg]

ehehe irrational po ba? whoops peace bro. :hippie:

[albert_b]

everything is relative ... morality is relative ... justice is relative ... it's easy to get lost sa mundo natin ngayon ... maraming ng nagsasalita at nagsusulat about everthing ... dati the coin only had 2 sides ... now the coin has an inifinite number of sides - imagination mo nalang ang naglilimit sa yo.

We need a fixed point to know where we are. My point? I'm glad I can have God as my fixed point. This is my resting place - my comfort zone :-)

[oldblue]

a question to atheists, would you have your first born baptized to enter Christianhood?

[city]

a question to atheists, would you have your first born baptized to enter Christianhood?

if i was married to a xtian believer...no problem. The commander in chief gets to approve of everything...if you know what i mean.....But if my wife is also an atheist...i don't think it'll ever occur to our minds of having our child be baptized to christianity.

Here's what I would do after...i'll let my children study all religions and choose for themselves. If they want to believe, it's up to them..whatever will work for them..fine with me.

[CtrlAltDel]

A group of bishops said that not everything in the bible is true?

That's a pity... a pity for them. Me, I try to follow the example of Christ, not the example of church leaders. Jesus never cloistered himself. He immersed himself in people. He talked to them in public. He drank wine with them. He went into the house of known sinners and ate meal with them. He invited tax collectors to be his disciples and shown sympathy to prostitutes. Instead of choosing highly-educated Jews to be his apostles, he chose instead a bunch of misfits to be his 12 apostles. He taught people the Scriptures, he unmasked the hypocrisy of the Jewish elite. He healed the sick, heck he brought the dead Lazarus back to life! He cast out demons and forgave people their sins. He rise up early ahead of the others so he can be alone to pray. He often did this. Praying... alone.

He said to love to your enemies and pray for those who persecute you! What more can you ask of this man? He was born in a manger- amid the smell of animals and their excrement! The sanitized version of the Christmas tableu never had it right. He never had any money nor properties. From the moment he was born all he had was love for human beings and obedience to God's will. Even when he was dying he asked God to forgive those who mock him on the cross.

What more can you ask of this man? He said to love God above all else with everything you have and then to love your neighbor as you love yourself. For those who have faith, it makes perfect sense; including the so-called inaccuracies in the bible.

For those who want more... more proof, more explanation, more reason for believing, more miracles, more rational explanation, more freedom from an omnipotent God's influence... well, good luck! The message of Christ can fall on fertile or barren soil. You can believe or dismiss it.

It's your choice. For me, the bible is true. Not one word of it is a lie. If that is irrational, then I choose to be irrational on the side of the promised eternal life in God's presence.

[mazdamazda]

Me, I try to follow the example of Christ, not the example of church leaders.

well said.

kaya nga mas maganda ang decentralized religion / church structure... instead of relying on a few men to decide on what you should believe, you should be the one to decide for yourself.

p.s. marami nang off-topic posts... kindly stick to the topic!

[city]

A group of bishops said that not everything in the bible is true?

That's a pity... a pity for them. Me, I try to follow the example of Christ, not the example of church leaders. Jesus never cloistered himself. He immersed himself in people. He talked to them in public. He drank wine with them. He went into the house of known sinners and ate meal with them. He invited tax collectors to be his disciples and shown sympathy to prostitutes. Instead of choosing highly-educated Jews to be his apostles, he chose instead a bunch of misfits to be his 12 apostles. He taught people the Scriptures, he unmasked the hypocrisy of the Jewish elite. He healed the sick, heck he brought the dead Lazarus back to life! He cast out demons and forgave people their sins. He rise up early ahead of the others so he can be alone to pray. He often did this. Praying... alone.

He said to love to your enemies and pray for those who persecute you! What more can you ask of this man? He was born in a manger- amid the smell of animals and their excrement! The sanitized version of the Christmas tableu never had it right. He never had any money nor properties. From the moment he was born all he had was love for human beings and obedience to God's will. Even when he was dying he asked God to forgive those who mock him on the cross.

What more can you ask of this man? He said to love God above all else with everything you have and then to love your neighbor as you love yourself. For those who have faith, it makes perfect sense; including the so-called inaccuracies in the bible.

For those who want more... more proof, more explanation, more reason for believing, more miracles, more rational explanation, more freedom from an omnipotent God's influence... well, good luck! The message of Christ can fall on fertile or barren soil. You can believe or dismiss it.

It's your choice. For me, the bible is true. Not one word of it is a lie. If that is irrational, then I choose to be irrational on the side of the promised eternal life in God's presence.

some of christ's messages are sometimes confusing..like matthew 10:34 and the succeeding verses.

i also don't like the idea of commanding people to love god. I'm not claiming to be smarter than jesus or anybody else but I believe it's enough to say to love your neighbors as yourselves.

loving your enemies is hard to do if not impossible.

if there's one person we ought to follow...that would be our mothers. Mothers are always there when you need them. They would let themselves die first before anything happens to us.

[CoDer]

if there's one person we ought to follow...that would be our mothers. Mothers are always there when you need them. They would let themselves die first before anything happens to us.

Uy... no wonder why the catholic church came up with the rosary.

[city]

Uy... no wonder why the catholic church came up with the rosary.

ever wonder why even earth is called mother and countries are called mothers>?

[CoDer]

ever wonder why even earth is called mother and countries are called mothers>?

Hehehehe... I wouldn't bother.

[oldblue]

ever wonder why even earth is called mother and countries are called mothers>?

let me guess we're born from it, err correction from her? but with countries I dont know The US do call their country motherland but sometimes uncle

[paulp]

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For those who want more... more proof, more explanation, more reason for believing, more miracles, more rational explanation, more freedom from an omnipotent God's influence... well, good luck! The message of Christ can fall on fertile or barren soil. You can believe or dismiss it.

It's your choice. For me, the bible is true. Not one word of it is a lie. If that is irrational, then I choose to be irrational on the side of the promised eternal life in God's presence.

AMEN TO ALL OF THAT!

[CoDer]

Yah city... just your hunch.

[jim]

For me everything in the bible is true <EOM>

[kinyo]

One thing I find anomalous in the bible is the 3 lost years of Jesus.
What happened to Jesus during those years?
How come not one apostle wrote about it? Or maybe somebody wrote about it and i simply missed reading?
Did Jesus travel during those years? If yes, wouldn't he have told his apostles where he'd gone and whatever happened in those travels?
Maybe he has gone somewhere to study? Did he need to study?

[Flagg]

One thing I find anomalous in the bible is the 3 lost years of Jesus.
What happened to Jesus during those years?
How come not one apostle wrote about it? Or maybe somebody wrote about it and i simply missed reading?
Did Jesus travel during those years? If yes, wouldn't he have told his apostles where he'd gone and whatever happened in those travels?
Maybe he has gone somewhere to study? Did he need to study?

Nag-whoopee po sila ni Mary Magdalene. Mga mods, di po OT yun ha? Truth in the Bible yung pinaguusapan. There is a study na celibacy was a medieval invention of the Catholic Church. Before the Middle Ages, masaya mga priest, ngayon wawa naman po sila. As a modern day example po, mga Rabbi get married.

Sir City, hati hati po dapat tayo ni coder sa 20% mo.

Sir Niky, nakita nyo po si Jesus? Kasama si Elvis? Wakekek, Peace po!

[niky]

Sir Niky, nakita nyo po si Jesus? Kasama si Elvis? Wakekek, Peace po!

Yaaa... bro... he was in the smoke, man... it was like waaaaay out....

If Jesus were alive now, he probably wouldn't be Catholic. He'd be a hippie. Peace, love, forgiveness. Go against the flow, listen to the children, dudes, don't force them to listen to you.

Various Church leaders would proclaim him the anti-Christ, the false prophet. They'd bait him with theological questions on "Evolution":

"Hey, peace bro, Give unto Darwin what is Darwin's, Give unto God what is God's... let the scientists have the monkeys, souls are all that count!"

On "Celibacy":

"Hey, I told you guys before to love one another! How can you preach my love if you don't practice it? Loosen up, guys!"

On "Women in the Church":

"Hey, if Mary Magdalene could preach my word, anybody can. When did I say women couldn't?"

They'd crucify him. Definitely.