Not everything in the Bible is true...

[city]

so you dont celebrate it? I figured you would coz it's the holidays minus the guilt ...

next question if you dont mind, would you reject getting married to a Church nor receive the sacrament of matrimony?

1. how would you want an atheist to celebrate it? You see, that's the thing, "GUILT"....this is what religion teaches.."GUILT"...that we are born a sinner and that we inherited a sin....and "the wages of sin is death"....original sin......guilt and that god has to send his son to save us from the curse of sin...and that jesus paid for it..... the feeling of guilt. Itried to rationalize this story and it did not ring a bell to me.....why would god send his son to death for the thing he started...he created everything..good and evil...including sin and then he sent his son to save us? And why death? Since i'm not a religionist, i'm free of this principle. I'm not a sinner, i wasn't born a sinner and i did not inherit any sin.

The only guilt i would feel is if i let this long weekend holiday go by without treating my family to a nice warm bath at the beach.

2. How would you feel if you get rejected? I would not come in the way of my partners beliefs. If she feels that we should get married to a church, why not. Call it hipocricy...i call it LOVE.

[city]

Personally, Holy week = long vacation, that's about it... Buti nga may cable na coz nung bata ako walang cable puros religious shows lang nasa TV...

I got married both sa civil and church, but for me, the former is for legality, the latter is for formality... Neither of them are more important than the fact that I can now live with the one I love...

Xmas = Great time for kids... and gastos hehe... But it is a special time of the year if you're in the Phil coz people are just super duper extra nice to everybody... Which is a good thing. But the fact that people goes back to the way they normally are after a couple of days shows you the shallowness of Xmas.

my guess is...santa is more popular than jesus on christmas season.

[city]

a question to atheists, would you have your first born baptized to enter Christianhood?

if i was married to a xtian believer...no problem. The commander in chief gets to approve of everything...if you know what i mean.....But if my wife is also an atheist...i don't think it'll ever occur to our minds of having our child be baptized to christianity.

Here's what I would do after...i'll let my children study all religions and choose for themselves. If they want to believe, it's up to them..whatever will work for them..fine with me.

[kinyo]

..... This led me to study other religions and how it all started.

Can you tell us what other religions have you studied and why they also failed to convince you of their "truth"?

[CtrlAltDel]

A group of bishops said that not everything in the bible is true?

That's a pity... a pity for them. Me, I try to follow the example of Christ, not the example of church leaders. Jesus never cloistered himself. He immersed himself in people. He talked to them in public. He drank wine with them. He went into the house of known sinners and ate meal with them. He invited tax collectors to be his disciples and shown sympathy to prostitutes. Instead of choosing highly-educated Jews to be his apostles, he chose instead a bunch of misfits to be his 12 apostles. He taught people the Scriptures, he unmasked the hypocrisy of the Jewish elite. He healed the sick, heck he brought the dead Lazarus back to life! He cast out demons and forgave people their sins. He rise up early ahead of the others so he can be alone to pray. He often did this. Praying... alone.

He said to love to your enemies and pray for those who persecute you! What more can you ask of this man? He was born in a manger- amid the smell of animals and their excrement! The sanitized version of the Christmas tableu never had it right. He never had any money nor properties. From the moment he was born all he had was love for human beings and obedience to God's will. Even when he was dying he asked God to forgive those who mock him on the cross.

What more can you ask of this man? He said to love God above all else with everything you have and then to love your neighbor as you love yourself. For those who have faith, it makes perfect sense; including the so-called inaccuracies in the bible.

For those who want more... more proof, more explanation, more reason for believing, more miracles, more rational explanation, more freedom from an omnipotent God's influence... well, good luck! The message of Christ can fall on fertile or barren soil. You can believe or dismiss it.

It's your choice. For me, the bible is true. Not one word of it is a lie. If that is irrational, then I choose to be irrational on the side of the promised eternal life in God's presence.

[city]

Can you tell us what other religions have you studied and why they also failed to convince you of their "truth"?

are you serious?

[mazdamazda]

Me, I try to follow the example of Christ, not the example of church leaders.

well said.

kaya nga mas maganda ang decentralized religion / church structure... instead of relying on a few men to decide on what you should believe, you should be the one to decide for yourself.

p.s. marami nang off-topic posts... kindly stick to the topic!

[kinyo]

are you serious?

Yes, I am serious.

[city]

Yes, I am serious.

OT: islam, hinduism, pantheism, bhuddism...among other things..it' all points to supernaturals. No such thing as supernatural. everything can be explained.

[zildjian]

How in the world can you preach about salvation if you don't believe in the accuracy of your source. That is tantamount to questioning the very existence of God.

And why in the earth would people use the bible as a history or science book? That's not its purpose.

Hay... Vatican talaga, sinisira nila ang sarili nila.

i think this is justification to some of their practice and tradition that are not biblically sound at all.

[kinyo]

[QUOTE=city] ... Since i'm not a religionist, i'm free of this principle. I'm not a sinner, i wasn't born a sinner and i did not inherit any sin.
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I think Jesus said (in the bible), "The truth shall set you free".
I like to believe that it applies to you. Congratulations!

[CoDer]

i think this is justification to some of their practice and tradition that are not biblically sound at all.

Korek ka bro. Daming ginawang doctrines ang catholic church na wala sa Bible.

[CoDer]

i just tied to rationalize everything i'm seeing around the world...never-ending wars, crime, disasters, sickness, people, culture, technology, science, progress, and death. So I asked, where does god fit into all this? This led me to study other religions and how it all started.

Linya ko yan dati City.

[city]

A group of bishops said that not everything in the bible is true?

That's a pity... a pity for them. Me, I try to follow the example of Christ, not the example of church leaders. Jesus never cloistered himself. He immersed himself in people. He talked to them in public. He drank wine with them. He went into the house of known sinners and ate meal with them. He invited tax collectors to be his disciples and shown sympathy to prostitutes. Instead of choosing highly-educated Jews to be his apostles, he chose instead a bunch of misfits to be his 12 apostles. He taught people the Scriptures, he unmasked the hypocrisy of the Jewish elite. He healed the sick, heck he brought the dead Lazarus back to life! He cast out demons and forgave people their sins. He rise up early ahead of the others so he can be alone to pray. He often did this. Praying... alone.

He said to love to your enemies and pray for those who persecute you! What more can you ask of this man? He was born in a manger- amid the smell of animals and their excrement! The sanitized version of the Christmas tableu never had it right. He never had any money nor properties. From the moment he was born all he had was love for human beings and obedience to God's will. Even when he was dying he asked God to forgive those who mock him on the cross.

What more can you ask of this man? He said to love God above all else with everything you have and then to love your neighbor as you love yourself. For those who have faith, it makes perfect sense; including the so-called inaccuracies in the bible.

For those who want more... more proof, more explanation, more reason for believing, more miracles, more rational explanation, more freedom from an omnipotent God's influence... well, good luck! The message of Christ can fall on fertile or barren soil. You can believe or dismiss it.

It's your choice. For me, the bible is true. Not one word of it is a lie. If that is irrational, then I choose to be irrational on the side of the promised eternal life in God's presence.

some of christ's messages are sometimes confusing..like matthew 10:34 and the succeeding verses.

i also don't like the idea of commanding people to love god. I'm not claiming to be smarter than jesus or anybody else but I believe it's enough to say to love your neighbors as yourselves.

loving your enemies is hard to do if not impossible.

if there's one person we ought to follow...that would be our mothers. Mothers are always there when you need them. They would let themselves die first before anything happens to us.

[city]

Linya ko yan dati City.

sorry if i quoted your lines...but it is true ...for me at least.

[CoDer]

if there's one person we ought to follow...that would be our mothers. Mothers are always there when you need them. They would let themselves die first before anything happens to us.

Uy... no wonder why the catholic church came up with the rosary.

[GlennSter]

grabe na mga sagot dito...diko na ma take!!

kakaiba...

[city]

Uy... no wonder why the catholic church came up with the rosary.

ever wonder why even earth is called mother and countries are called mothers>?

[CoDer]

sorry if i quoted your lines...but it is true ...for me at least.

Mas malala pa ang mga linya ko dati. Pinagsisihan ko yun.

[zildjian]

Again, why are the miracles mentioned in the Bible never repeated themselves outside the pages of the Bible?

Why is it that Egyptian artifacts and writings survived on many historical physical evidences that are now preserved in museums, while historical evidences related to the Bible can only be found in the Bible?

and you can even find moses in egyptian documents and artifacts. and how about joseph which was part of egyptian history?