Not everything in the Bible is true...

[Flagg]

gundam, basahin mo post ko sa page 2 re "put to death." masama po yung hate.

tama po c wild thing & glennster, imho, for the reason you'll see below.

For those interested, nakakaaliw basahin yung "The Hiram Key" - medyo unvalidated na work yun that basically says na Catholicism comes from Nazarene (or Essene) beliefs which came from Egyptian beliefs which came from Sumerian beliefs. Ayos ba? Ganun katanda yung Bible. Mga Jews formed as a nation bandang Egyptian slavery time lang. There is no way the Bible can be literally correct. It has to be interpreted.

Re: flood. There was a flood which wiped out the Sumerian civilization. Theory ng mga archaeologist na ito ang nag start ng mga Flood stories. Yung shallowest point ng flood (hills) was 4 meters deep. Imagine po yung parts ng land na fields kaysa hills, ang lalim na dun. Buong Tigris-Euphrates basin yun, para sa kanila, end of the world na talaga.

Sa mga nagpa-popcorn, baka maging malagkit keyboard & mouse nyo. ;)

[nugundam93]

hmmmm flagg...saw the post. :D

[Steeljack]

I can understand people believing in God. And I can understand people that read the Bible and take its message to heart.

But what I can't understand is how anyone can take a scripture written by other men as the final word of God. Especially when its a well known fact that this Bible has been manipulated for political gain through out history. A fine example of this is the exclusion of certain gospels, deemed uncomfortable by the ruling priests at that time.

To me, the Bible is in many ways an interesting historical document and a book filled with good lessons to learn but through the course of history it has primarily been a tool with which to oppress people.

The scariest thing is that people actually accept it as undisputable fact, even though historians have proven many things wrong by looking at archeological finds and other documentation from the same era.

However, if people find comfort in the Bible and it makes their life easier to live, more power to them. I have friends who read Playboy with the same determination. And others who favor Car and Driver.

To each is their own.

[Zxho]

meehehehe...

[empy]

NOW this should start getting good :evillaugh

[badkuk]

some people consider the Bible as world history; i had a Physics teacher who doesn't believe that man evolved from apes; ang sabi nya these weren't true humans, mga degenerates daw mga yun. He believes that man descended from Adam and Eve.

One religion teacher had a good explanation though. Ano ba naman ang malay ng taong nagsulat ng Bible about evolution, big bang, etc? siyempre he would just do his best to describe the process, without the benefit of thousands of years of scientific knowledge. So when he/she wrote "In the beginning, there was darkness...'Let There Be Light'..", he/she could've been talking about the big bang.

to me, science explains how things came to be, but it doesn't explain *who* started it all, or for what purpose. to me it's a bit of a stretch to say life started on earth just by chance.

[the_wildthing]

This reminds me of Samuel L. Jackson's lines in M. Night Shyamalan's Unbreakable about comic books... an exaggeration of the truth, but based on truth nonetheless.

Also a lot must have been lost in translation. Even the word Yahweh was created during translation. Some words have been replaced because nothing comes close to the original words.

[niky]

food for thought, to paraphrase niky:

the Bible is God's word interpreted by man. man is an imperfect being.

Ah... thanks... :lol: ...that's exactly what I wanted to say.

For me, I'm an on-again, off-again Christian. On when I think of Christ, his works and words... Off when I think of what millions of people over the centuries have done with it.

Kaya nga, Christ is the only source that matters. Not the prophets, nor the kings, nor the imperfect and balimbing apostles who profitted from his death.

Isa ngang radical si Kristo. He tore down the old institutions of religion... to make it more right and just for the people. That's why I loved Pope John Paul II, even if he stood for some things I didn't like, he attempted to tear down the fossilized old strictures of the Catholic Church (as part of Vatican II) to make it more relevant to the world today.

Are we going to let the works of good men go to waste, simply in our blind worship of a book? Akala ko, Christian tayo, hindi Biblian?

Sige... I'm going out to buy more popcorn...

[truckman]

ako din di naniniwala sa Bible pero naniniwala ako na merong GOD.

[DoctorDoom]

I think everyone here is settled with the fact that not everything in the Bible is "true" (meaning, they are not LITERALLY true). So the question now is, how much of the scriptures are LITERAL accounts of events, and how much of it are just symbolic passages ?

Who wants to take a stab on this question: Why is it that the miracles narrated in the Bible only took place within the Bible?? Sure, we have the great flood analysis or the low tide theory that supposedly describes the parting of the Red Sea ..... but what about miracles in modern times ?????

Do we have:

1) a burning bush that talks
2) talking mountain
3) deaf who can hear, blind who can see at an instant
4) modern day Lazarus

It is as if, after the last pages of the Bible were written, everything about Christianity has ceased taking place, and from that point thereafter, people started to simply "quote from the Bible".