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    #191
    [QUOTE=city] ... Since i'm not a religionist, i'm free of this principle. I'm not a sinner, i wasn't born a sinner and i did not inherit any sin.
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    I think Jesus said (in the bible), "The truth shall set you free".
    I like to believe that it applies to you. Congratulations!

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    #192
    Quote Originally Posted by zildjian
    i think this is justification to some of their practice and tradition that are not biblically sound at all.
    Korek ka bro. Daming ginawang doctrines ang catholic church na wala sa Bible.

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    #193
    Quote Originally Posted by city
    i just tied to rationalize everything i'm seeing around the world...never-ending wars, crime, disasters, sickness, people, culture, technology, science, progress, and death. So I asked, where does god fit into all this? This led me to study other religions and how it all started.
    Linya ko yan dati City.

  4. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel
    A group of bishops said that not everything in the bible is true?

    That's a pity... a pity for them. Me, I try to follow the example of Christ, not the example of church leaders. Jesus never cloistered himself. He immersed himself in people. He talked to them in public. He drank wine with them. He went into the house of known sinners and ate meal with them. He invited tax collectors to be his disciples and shown sympathy to prostitutes. Instead of choosing highly-educated Jews to be his apostles, he chose instead a bunch of misfits to be his 12 apostles. He taught people the Scriptures, he unmasked the hypocrisy of the Jewish elite. He healed the sick, heck he brought the dead Lazarus back to life! He cast out demons and forgave people their sins. He rise up early ahead of the others so he can be alone to pray. He often did this. Praying... alone.

    He said to love to your enemies and pray for those who persecute you! What more can you ask of this man? He was born in a manger- amid the smell of animals and their excrement! The sanitized version of the Christmas tableu never had it right. He never had any money nor properties. From the moment he was born all he had was love for human beings and obedience to God's will. Even when he was dying he asked God to forgive those who mock him on the cross.

    What more can you ask of this man? He said to love God above all else with everything you have and then to love your neighbor as you love yourself. For those who have faith, it makes perfect sense; including the so-called inaccuracies in the bible.

    For those who want more... more proof, more explanation, more reason for believing, more miracles, more rational explanation, more freedom from an omnipotent God's influence... well, good luck! The message of Christ can fall on fertile or barren soil. You can believe or dismiss it.

    It's your choice. For me, the bible is true. Not one word of it is a lie. If that is irrational, then I choose to be irrational on the side of the promised eternal life in God's presence.
    some of christ's messages are sometimes confusing..like matthew 10:34 and the succeeding verses.

    i also don't like the idea of commanding people to love god. I'm not claiming to be smarter than jesus or anybody else but I believe it's enough to say to love your neighbors as yourselves.

    loving your enemies is hard to do if not impossible.

    if there's one person we ought to follow...that would be our mothers. Mothers are always there when you need them. They would let themselves die first before anything happens to us.

  5. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer
    Linya ko yan dati City.
    sorry if i quoted your lines...but it is true ...for me at least.

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    #196
    Quote Originally Posted by city
    if there's one person we ought to follow...that would be our mothers. Mothers are always there when you need them. They would let themselves die first before anything happens to us.
    Uy... no wonder why the catholic church came up with the rosary.

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    #197
    grabe na mga sagot dito...diko na ma take!!

    kakaiba...
    Last edited by GlennSter; February 22nd, 2006 at 10:50 AM.

  8. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer
    Uy... no wonder why the catholic church came up with the rosary.

    ever wonder why even earth is called mother and countries are called mothers>?

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    #199
    Quote Originally Posted by city
    sorry if i quoted your lines...but it is true ...for me at least.
    Mas malala pa ang mga linya ko dati. Pinagsisihan ko yun.

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    #200
    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorDoom
    Again, why are the miracles mentioned in the Bible never repeated themselves outside the pages of the Bible?

    Why is it that Egyptian artifacts and writings survived on many historical physical evidences that are now preserved in museums, while historical evidences related to the Bible can only be found in the Bible?
    and you can even find moses in egyptian documents and artifacts. and how about joseph which was part of egyptian history?

Not everything in the Bible is true...