Need your inputs on the things needed to build a house.

[earthlyken]

Also mga sir..the general question i have po, is that the quality materials i have listed po ay enough napo ba siya to built the house i specify po? Kasi what happen here po is yung total amount of money ang napaguusapan po..no offense po, you guys share a lot of information that hinde kopa naisip, for that thank you..my question lang po is that kung kulang or sobra papo mga materials na kailangan kopo sa list kopo..

TIA pop ulit..

[Gumusut_Amige]

Thank you so much for all inputs, my brother is an architect student and my uncle is a foreman/trabahador, sabi ok naraw yun list, ung sa auxilliary raw ang kulang pero mga 1.2m to 1.3m raw ay matatapos raw nila using quality material raw..pero yung finishing ang hinde matatapos completely mga 60% lang siguru matatapos..pero the house structure raw ay quality material talaga..

The reason but ayaw namin yung RFO ay hinde nila nasusulit yung lot area and yung division sa loob n g house ay h inde namin gusto..

Sakit talaga sa ulo kakaisip ng mga ganitong bagay..

Base sa list po..ano papo kulang or sobra sa list na pwede bawasan at idagdag sa iba?

Thank you sa m ga nag babasa at nag rereply po..more power to you all

mahirap kasi ang tanong mo bro... una mahirap mag check ng BOM kung walang plano. kung meron na dapat alam na nung brother mo kung paano gawin

pero ang major na materyales para sa umpisa - cement, gravel/sand, rebars, lumber (para sa porma at isama mo na lahat yung mga malilit na bagay gaya ng nails/GI wires), hand tools and mixer, water/power supply

yung mga formalities bago ka makapagpatayo ng bahay (building permit), isama mo sa budget cost. maghanap ka na lang kaya yung hindi kataasang maningil na kontraktor para ipasa mo na lang yung sakit ng ulo sa kanila.

[vinj]

IMO, if you'll rely on your brother (Architecture student) and Uncle (foreman, does he have any engineering background?), medyo mahirap. You could at least hire the services of an engineer to serve as consultant.

My father-in-law is an engineer and when he recently rebuilt their house, he really spent time and money on it. Nagtyaga muna siya on his half-buried house before he embarked on the job of tearing it down and rebuilding a new house since he knows the consequences of shortcuts and the costs of slowing down construction due to lack of funds. The result was a well built nice house with good finishing, where he spent roughly to 500K over his intended budget. I also saw that their old house which he also built personally (which was torn down to make way for the new house) was still very well-built even after 25 years and the onslaught of Mt. Pinatubo, and he still got to use some of the old materials (especially the thick wood beams) because he chose materials carefully back then.

[poorprince]

hi sir. i agree that this will be a very exciting process, building your house from scratch, but be very mindful sa expenses. Dont be surprised if you'll exceed the budget, especially if you dont have much experience with building construction.

The initial phase of masonry works (foundation, walls, post etc) will be suprisingly fast. However, everything will slow down once you do some finishing - and by then you'll know na if nag exceed ka na sa budget mo. Goodluck sa project mo and keep us updated. Also, since your doing this on your own... how did you get permits for this? (OBO, etc)

[fourtheboys96]

You are going to build a 3 storey house that is why I am asking if you have some engineering background. Safety is a paramount concern.

I am not an engineer but I know that they know how you can save on expenses without compromising safety and reliability of the the structure.

I am not familiar on the extent of architects' knowledge on this kind of matters so maybe people can enlighten me on this.

If you are building a bungalow, there will be less problem.

[chua_riwap]

tsaka si TS nababanggit nya, 70-75 sq.m lang.
eh 3 storey gusto nya. that would be 70 or 75 sq.m X 3
total FA will be around 225 sq.m. (max)

medyo malaking budget nyan.

[renzo_d10]

No wonder dito sa QC/SJ yung mga bahay na ganyan kaliit ang LA is being sold at 6-8 million. Tapos yung mga 90-100+ sqm ang LA eh 10 million+ na. Mahal kasi talaga magpagawa ng bahay.

[holdencaulfield]

TS - tignan mo rin kung saan ka makakamura sa paraan ng pagbayad sa mga gagawa. "pakyawan" o "arawan"?

ingat ka lang sa mapipili mong mga tao o contractor. may mga tao pag binayaran mo ng "pakyawan", mamadaliin ang paggawa ma-cocompromise yung quality ng work. minsan pag bigay mo ng bayad ilang araw lang sila gagawa tapos iwanan na nila.
sa "arawan" naman experience ko, sooobrang binabagalan nila ang gawa kahit kaya ng ilang araw lang, gagawin nilang linggo para humaba yung kita. lalo na pag malapit na silang matapos magugulat ka na lang sasabihan ka babalik pa sila bukas.
good luck building your humble abode!

[CVT]

tsaka si TS nababanggit nya, 70-75 sq.m lang.
eh 3 storey gusto nya. that would be 70 or 75 sq.m X 3
total FA will be around 225 sq.m. (max)

medyo malaking budget nyan.

Kaya sabi ng mga damats,- bahay-kalapati ang mga bahay ngayon...

Maliit lang ang base, pero todo ang taas....

Tapos, isa lang ang kakasyang sasakyan sa garahe....

At saan igagarahe ang sobrang sasakyan? Sa kalye!... Bw!set! :twak:

15.5K:boxing1:

[rollyic]

anyone can give inputs about prefab?

meron akong nakikita na dini-deliver na mga ding-ding at poste sa mga nagpapagawa ng bahay dito sa cainta.
matipid daw to at mas matibay. sa hallow blocks daw kasi hindi naman daw ganon katibay ang pagkakagawa. unlike yung prefab, manipis man pero purong semento naman daw.

isa pa daw kasing sakit ng ulo yung finishing. lalo na kung yung gumagawa e walang pakialam magtapon ng semento sa pagpi-finishing. sa prefab daw, halos hindi mo kailangan i-finishing.

[jick.cejoco]

with the project being described, the doubts were on the quality, time, and the cost. one aspect that was not discussed was flexibility for expansion or modification. with that in mind, steel framing and hardiflex construction is still the fastest, less cost, more flexible, earthquake resistant, fire safe and readily expandable not to mention easy to maintain if the members were bolted or screwed together. the flooring for the second to the rest upper floors can be made of ribspan with hardiflex floor substrate covered in carpet, vinyl tile, ceramic tile or hardwood floor planks. there is no need to worry about termites. no need for forms for poured in concrete aside from the foundation. less plaster finishing and readily paintable once the walls are installed. floor joists can be made of engineered trusses for longer spans, straightness and ease of joining using nuts and bolts or welding. there are no more readily available lumber due to deforestration. the only materials you can use are composites and metal. construction method somehow changed by the inavailability of the traditional building materials.

[_Qwerty_]

3 floors yan.. para makakuha nang building permit kailangan nang soil testing.. titingnan kung kakayanin nang soil yung 3 floors.. masakit din sa ulo yan pag walang contractor... i suggest kuha ka nang contractor.. para may warranty din..

[jick.cejoco]

yes that is a requirement, the soil density, type of soil, vulnerability to soil erosion, flooding, grade, and elevation need to be evaluated first. but the public works or whatever agency might not even do the job right. consider the illumination, ventilation, orientation (where the house is facing- east, west, north or south). look into distances of power, water and sewer connections. in other words, make the house plan as green as possible reducing the need for light and airflow

[[archie]]

Yep, soil testing muna before anything else. Ang mahirap diyan yung city eng. Office. Hihingi ng lagay yan. Then kailangan ng plano, kailangan may license yung gagawa ng blue print.

Para sakin, get an eng. Para everything would be done the right way. No offense sa tito mo na contratista, pero oo lang ng oo yan basta parang matibay para sakanila. Tanchahan lang sila.

IMO, never go cheap on building a house, if hindi kaya ng budget, ill be more confident on fully renovating the house.

[renzo_d10]

Yup, lahat naman kailangan ng lagay para bumilis. Especially if something connected with permits or whatever.

[fourtheboys96]

anyone can give inputs about prefab?

meron akong nakikita na dini-deliver na mga ding-ding at poste sa mga nagpapagawa ng bahay dito sa cainta.
matipid daw to at mas matibay. sa hallow blocks daw kasi hindi naman daw ganon katibay ang pagkakagawa. unlike yung prefab, manipis man pero purong semento naman daw.

isa pa daw kasing sakit ng ulo yung finishing. lalo na kung yung gumagawa e walang pakialam magtapon ng semento sa pagpi-finishing. sa prefab daw, halos hindi mo kailangan i-finishing.

dito sa Japan ang mga bahay at low rise buildings (2 storey) ay pre-fab.

minsan nagulat ako may building na agad dun sa kalsadang dinadaanan ko. kasi parang pundasyon lang yung nakikita kong ginagawa nila tapos ilang linggo lang 2-storey bldg na. matapos ang malakas na lindol noong 2011, nakatayo pa naman yung building at brand new looking pa din.

[rollyic]

with the project being described, the doubts were on the quality, time, and the cost. one aspect that was not discussed was flexibility for expansion or modification. with that in mind, steel framing and hardiflex construction is still the fastest, less cost, more flexible, earthquake resistant, fire safe and readily expandable not to mention easy to maintain if the members were bolted or screwed together. the flooring for the second to the rest upper floors can be made of ribspan with hardiflex floor substrate covered in carpet, vinyl tile, ceramic tile or hardwood floor planks. there is no need to worry about termites. no need for forms for poured in concrete aside from the foundation. less plaster finishing and readily paintable once the walls are installed. floor joists can be made of engineered trusses for longer spans, straightness and ease of joining using nuts and bolts or welding. there are no more readily available lumber due to deforestration. the only materials you can use are composites and metal. construction method somehow changed by the inavailability of the traditional building materials.

totoo ba na ang problema sa hardiflex madaling mabasag?
at hindi dapat ginagamitan ng ordinaryong pako?

[jick.cejoco]

totoo ba na ang problema sa hardiflex madaling mabasag?
at hindi dapat ginagamitan ng ordinaryong pako?

hardiflex has a low limit on elasticity. if you use ordinary wire nails, you have to pre drill the holes. in my case, i have been using "tek" screw or self drilling/self tapping screw since i use galvanized steel for framing, not wood. the screw heads can be made flush with the surface by countersinking the hole for the screw. then, the scars left behind by the screw can be covered by caulking or spackle prior to painting.

[rollyic]

so pag yan nadaganan o nasandigan ng medyo mabigat bigat, basag na.

[jick.cejoco]

so pag yan nadaganan o nasandigan ng medyo mabigat bigat, basag na.

the hardiflex comes in different thicknesses up to 16 mm. if the wall is expected to have some accidental impacts, the framing has to be spaced like what yo do for plywood-stud at every 16 inches on center and use two fireblocks between two studs. in my past experience using hardiflex of 1/4 inch thick and 2"X4"X3/16" rectangular galvanized tubes, it stood to the 200 miles per hour sustained wind and surges but did not suffer damage. i guess it all depends how you build it. if you were to use it as floor, use a ribbed steel backing panel supported by steel joists