malaki ba talaga effect kung saan ka nagtapos

[VtEC]

kung priorities lagi mga top 5 schools ng mga companies, what's the use of having the other schools?ched might as well close them.d&%n society.

[empy]

i have to disagree with the people who said that you can't tell someone's work ethic by the school they graduated from. if you are interviewing someone who graduated with good grades from a top university - where they are under the watchful eye of the best profs in the country, and where they are graded under a curve against the best students in the country, then you know they not only have the smarts, but the work ethic to make that brainpower deliver results as well.

it's also a misnomer that CEO's don't come from top schools. for every Bill Gates-college dropout, there are 2 or 3 CEO's with both a BS and MBA from Ivy League schools. heck, even Bill Gates had the smarts to get into Harvard - he just developed a business model that couldn't wait until he graduated

our CEO (i work for a Fortune 100) has bachelors and graduate degrees from Harvard. his staff all come from prestigious universities (Duke, Princeton, Columbia, Harvard).

maybe it's different in the Philippines, but i doubt it.

[MACpod]

Malaki ba ang effect kung saan ka nagtapos?

Yes.

There is a tremendous effect on an individual’s educational background as to what the society can utter about him. It is through this where people initially and superficially judge him. A given norm of irrational behavior, so to speak.

As insinuated on some previous posts, there are companies who will not use up hundreds of hours talking to every applicant just to get the most suitable person for the job, instead will short-list by picking only those coming from these premier educational institutions.

But then, a person who attended a university that is not categorized as our own “ivy-league” has an invaluable challenge to realize. It is the need to endeavor more effort to compete. Once an invitation for an interview comes, he is granted a shot to prove himself against further candidates. He must display utmost confidence and wit as he answers every single question thrown at him during the conversation. This is where the interviewer evaluates his capacity to think, his capability to handle given situations, his shrewdness.

Being an alumnus of PUP, I was privileged to be granted a position at one of the leading firms in the country. No I am not a cum laude, neither did I ace the records on my transcript but just an ordinary graduate blessed with an opportunity to convince my competency during the interview.
And the blessing just didn’t stop there, I landed a teaching position at CSB and a transient stint at an international school in Shanghai.

In your case, the HR who declined you has reasons only she could construe as righteous. Just don’t wallow and expect. Easy for me to say but surely there is a very good reason why the job wasn’t given to you. And something finer may take the place of it.

Cheers! We all belong to the aristocracy of the intellect.

[uls]

kung priorities lagi mga top 5 schools ng mga companies, what's the use of having the other schools?ched might as well close them.d&%n society.

My line of thinking but i wouldnt go that far hehe

What the masses want, the masses get. Govt/politicians always give in to the will of masses.

Ayaw nila ng NCEE kasi nakakasira sa pangarap, tinanggal ang NCEE.

Gusto nila magka diploma kahit hindi talaga kaya ng powers nila, CHED allows substandard schools to make their diploma dreams come true.

Gusto nila mag nursing. Wish granted. Look around dudes... nursing schools all over the place. parang 7-11.

Now the labor dept is helping nursing grads who cant pass the board exams land jobs. Today's news -- http://businessmirror.com.ph/07252007/nation06.html

naku po! sana hindi natin maging nurse-nurse mga yan! God help us!

[nicolodeon]

f you are interviewing someone who graduated with good grades from a top university - where they are under the watchful eye of the best profs in the country, and where they are graded under a curve against the best students in the country, then you know they not only have the smarts, but the work ethic to make that brainpower deliver results as wel

IMO not all who graduate from the top schools here have the brain power and the work ethic. I've interviewed a number of these - they can converse in English well but that's about it. The best friend of my eldest inaanak studies in De La Salle but he's barely getting by. Would he graduate? Sure he will - he passes (barely) pero sa iba ito lang ang importante. Would he amount to anything? Too early to tell but I bet you, his claim to fame when he applies for work is he is a graduate of De La Salle.

I've a schoolmate who graduated from PUP (civil engineering,I think) but is the richest and most successful person in our HS batch.

[uls]

Yes there are people who became successful kahit elementary lang ang natapos.

In hindsight yan e. In hindsight, the view is always clearer.

Pero if ur the interviewer, u dont have the benefit of hindsight.

u have no idea what each applicant is really capable of.

An applicant from DLSU could rob ur company blind or an applicant from XXU could bring the company to new heights. Who knows diba?

U only have a few minutes to interview each, so u have to narrow down ur choices using some sort of gauge.

bahala na... u will know if u made the right choice after the applicant u hired is already working for u...

[nicolodeon]

[SIZE="2"]EWDD (Early Warning Don't Do)[/SIZE]

Fellas, we're having a nice and intelligent discussion here so sana wala sa atin mag-start ng my-school-is-better-than-your-school reply or your-tuition-is-just-my-allowance reply.

Thanks.

[niky]

*M54 Powered: technically, yes.

But in this case, it's like the job interviewer saying: "Kellogg?.. What's that? If you're not from Harvard per se, we won't accept you..."

PUP is a fine school by local standards (heck, you don't get University status for doing nothing!), but not considering someone because they're from PUP is like the example above.

[m2's kumander]

I guess for some.

tama si nicolodeon, if you don't have the brains and the right attitude eh wala din say kung san school ka nag-aral.

just want to share this, i was looking for a developer...and interviewed a new grad...he studied from one of the so-called top university!!! when i asked him...why i should hire him..he answered "cause i graduated from ***A***!" :huh: so what... when i ask him another question...what are your skills? eh nakaw po..tanungin akong anung skill ba yun tinatanong ko?

hay...muntikan na akong maubusan ng dugo!!!saksakan lang ng porma...

so interview ako ulit until the dev. i hired didn't study from those top univeristies but ..he is good. di ako nagkamali!!!

[bunge]

For me, as long as it's not a school based inside a cafeteria (there was one Nursing or PT school that did that... amazing how long they lasted before they were padlocked!) or some other dubious fly-by-night operation, school matters less than what I see the applicant can do.

The school you graduated from indicates (based on the school's entry requirements) that you are at least of x intelligence. But it doesn't tell me anything about your work ethic or your actual ability, both creative and whatnot. There are some graduates of big schools that have the brains, but not the work ethic, and that's what counts most in an organization.

Plus, big schools have an unfair advantage... they have the pick of the best students in the country... and if your IQ is just 1 point too low, you can't get in. A lot of great students get bypassed this way.

I have a relative who wasn't passed on to high school in Ateneo because of their ridiculous entrance exams... (entrance for prep, grade one, high school... what next? Entrance exams per semester?)... what's he doing now? Now that he's over the pain of not finishing with his friends, he's an entrepreneur, managing his own school.

It's not where you've graduated, or have had the luck of graduating from, that matters...

It's how you take that gift and use it, that does.

There's something to be learned from a lot of high-powered CEOs. A lot of them were drop-outs or losers in school... why? Because book smarts doesn't equal street smarts, and a glowing academic record can tell you a person is a brain, but it doesn't tell you how they cope with adversity.

If someone manages to come from horrible high school grades and still manages to graduate Cum Laude from College... that's probably the man you want for the job.

meron ako dating nakita sa sucat, paranaque na nursing school sa taas ng palengke.