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[travajante]

Guys what's the best way to anchor wooden baluster railing to tiled stairs? The stair tiles are outdoor finish porcelain types.

Original plan was to have stainless steel railing but I'm trying to save a bundle by using wood.

I always try avoiding planting rails on floors. This is to future-proof things. Should floors need changing, no rail removal, tampering nor workaround needed.
If staircase & upper floors are of concrete, you can use chemical anchors(Hilti, Sika, Fischer) to plant metal angles or channels on the vertical sections(beam face or side of staircase) for your balusters to bolt on to. This method will have better pivot/movement resistance than floor-mounting.
Here's an example of rugged treated wood anchored on the vertical beam face, not thru the floor.
Tried looking for 1st hand stair application pics to share. It has been a while since we've done stair rails in wood. They were likely stored & lost in older phones.[emoji852]

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[Wh1stl3r]

I always try avoiding planting rails on floors. This is to future-proof things. Should floors need changing, no rail removal, tampering nor workaround needed.
If staircase & upper floors are of concrete, you can use chemical anchors(Hilti, Sika, Fischer) to plant metal angles or channels on the vertical sections(beam face or side of staircase) for your balusters to bolt on to.
Here's an example of rugged treated wood anchored on the vertical beam face, not thru the floor.

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That's pretty clever. Only issue I might have is the cheap baluster wood might not hold up when mounted that way. Or could it? Can't use hard wood as they're out of budget unfortunately.

[travajante]

That's pretty clever. Only issue I might have is the cheap baluster wood might not hold up when mounted that way. Or could it? Can't use hard wood as they're out of budget unfortunately.

You can always guinea a section or 2. Test for durability as they are safety rails. Should your plan fail, look into China SS stair rail components you can use w/ minimal or no weld assembly, sir. Aluminum sections can be mixed in, too. Hoboer than custom stainless.

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[Wh1stl3r]

You can always guinea a section or 2. Test for durability as they are safety rails. Should your plan fail, look into China SS stair rail components you can use w/ minimal or no weld assembly, sir. Aluminum sections can be mixed in, too. Hoboer than custom stainless.

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Thanks for the ideas bro. At the risk ko overextending your hospitality, could you recommend any local supplier of those modular SS rails perchance? I'd very much appreciate a PM.

[travajante]

Thanks for the ideas bro. At the risk ko overextending your hospitality, could you recommend any local supplier of those modular SS rails perchance? I'd very much appreciate a PM.

I'm sadly far from you, disconnected..... otherwise, I'd be more than glad to help.[emoji852]
Let's await Max, he might have leads local to you, sir!

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[Wh1stl3r]

Still thanks for the ideas bro. Much appreciated 👍

[travajante]

Still thanks for the ideas bro. Much appreciated [emoji106]

Anytime, Wh1st3r brother![emoji106]

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[maxpedition]

Guys what's the best way to anchor wooden baluster railing to tiled stairs? The stair tiles are outdoor finish porcelain types.

Original plan was to have stainless steel railing but I'm trying to save a bundle by using wood.

You can use 1/2" threaded rod with grip anchor or you can make a 1/4" baseplate smaller or equal to the base section of your wooden baluster with 1-1 1/4" pipe weld on the center to support your post.

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[Wh1stl3r]

You can use 1/2" threaded rod with grip anchor or you can make a 1/4" baseplate smaller or equal to the base section of your wooden baluster with 1-1 1/4" pipe weld on the center to support your post.

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Do I ask the installer to use a 1/2" diamond tip bit to make it through the tiles and then drive the threaded rods bro? Or drill down until the entire length of the buried portion of the rod and then screw it down?

I hope these threaded rods are available at the local Wilcon hehe.

[maxpedition]

Do I ask the installer to use a 1/2" diamond tip bit to make it through the tiles and then drive the threaded rods bro? Or drill down until the entire length of the buried portion of the rod and then screw it down?

I hope these threaded rods are available at the local Wilcon hehe.

Yes you can buy it there. You can try makita masonry bit much cheaper compare to nicholson brand sell on wilcon. At least two inches in depth for better Anchorage. Threaded rod are sold in 8ft in length.

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[Wh1stl3r]

Yes you can buy it there. You can try makita masonry bit much cheaper compare to nicholson brand sell on wilcon. At least two inches in depth for better Anchorage. Threaded rod are sold in 8ft in length.

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Thanks bro. Will update this thread with the finished project. 🙂

[PriteshBaji]

Wow, Nice House Construction.

[papi smith]

Going back to balusters, is there another type aside from the one on the pic which I can attach to the side of the stairs. Putting it on too kasi will reduce my stair width.

[Ketib]

Going back to balusters, is there another type aside from the one on the pic which I can attach to the side of the stairs. Putting it on too kasi will reduce my stair width.

Nakapasok na rin kasi halos ng 75mm yung base plate mo from the outer edge of the tread. Hindi ko alam ang anu preparation ginawa nyo. Pero mas matibay sana kung naglagay kayo ng provision for hinang. Hindi rin matibay syado expansion bolt or using chemical anchors.

Pwede rin pagawa ka ng 3" balusters para hindi syadong malapad. May I ask, anu ba lapad ng hagdan mo, bawas mo na ang balusters width?

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[papi smith]

Pinatong ko lang yan sir for pic purposes, 1 meter lang kasi ang stair width, contractor error, kasi sabi ko 120 cm, ang sabi ng installer, maglalagay daw sya base plate sa side tapos patong yan, pero parang masagwa kung ganun

No preparation done sir, bakal at cemento lang yan

[Ketib]

Hindi ako sigurado, pero min clear width ata ng stairs is 120cm as per building code for commercial building. Ang mangyari sayo sir, 90cm na lang clear width mo, if tama estimate ko na 10cm baluster mo.

My suggestion, gawan nyo paraan na may mapatungan lang mismo yung paa ng baluster, gawa kayo support which thicken out sa stringer, drill sa side put rebars then, buhusan mo ng structural grout.

Or pwede rin sabi ng installer na maglagay, sila ng base plate na mag clip sa side ng hagdan, conceal it, using wood/plastic moulding. Try mo rin ask if may makunan sila ng aluminum composite panel(ACP), pwede rin gamitin pangtago. Paint afterwards same color (or anu kulay gusto mo) as your stairs, you're done.

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[papi smith]

Nice suggestions Sir [emoji106] thank you very much [emoji4]

[travajante]

Nakapasok na rin kasi halos ng 75mm yung base plate mo from the outer edge of the tread. Hindi ko alam ang anu preparation ginawa nyo. Pero mas matibay sana kung naglagay kayo ng provision for hinang. Hindi rin matibay syado expansion bolt or using chemical anchors.

Pwede rin pagawa ka ng 3" balusters para hindi syadong malapad. May I ask, anu ba lapad ng hagdan mo, bawas mo na ang balusters width?

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You can mount base plates under or SS angles along the side of the sawtooth staircase. L shaped vertical balusters or if you're using glass... side mounted stand-off fittings.

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[papi smith]

Thanks Sir Travs, I also did some googling and found a lot good side mount options. I guess my true problem lies in the fact that I am currently limited to 1 provider to whom I already have a good experience with. I asked also if he can find good side mount options. This part of construction is tricky because you need to pay 50% upfront and there are many sad stories of non delivery or non completion.

[travajante]

Thanks Sir Travs, I also did some googling and found a lot good side mount options. I guess my true problem lies in the fact that I am currently limited to 1 provider to whom I already have a good experience with. I asked also if he can find good side mount options. This part of construction is tricky because you need to pay 50% upfront and there are many sad stories of non delivery or non completion.

Anytime, papi sir.
Unlike the old days where everything was custom, rail fittings, accessories & components are now readily available for DIY....cheap. Thanks to China.

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