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    #201
    Quote Originally Posted by james00112233 View Post
    I'm assuming na mas mahal yung mga sound-proof at diesel na generator, but can you give me an idea kung mga magkano kaya yun?

    At saka yung "push button" starter sana at di yung "de baltak" (crank starting). Magkano kaya yung mga modelo na ganyan? Baka kasi pag nagtagal, baka maputol yung tali na pang-start.

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    #202
    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    At saka yung "push button" starter sana at di yung "de baltak" (crank starting). Magkano kaya yung mga modelo na ganyan? Baka kasi pag nagtagal, baka maputol yung tali na pang-start.
    bro chua, meron akong nakita dito sa amin (La Union) kanina yung output capacity ay 5.5KVA/diesel = 42K & 38K lang

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    #203
    another question gaano kahaba pwede ko extend yun exhaust? kasi pag umuulan hinde ko malagay sa open space yun gen set namin so sa garage lang eh natatakot ako sa monoxide poisoning, so plan ko extend yun exhaust para pwede ko ilabas sa gate.

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    #204

    Bro.,- I was at ACE Hardware last night and I found a genset that is similar to what I have. Brand is Promate and cost is about P20K. I remember that I bought our genset a decade ago at about the same price. Almost the same, layout and everything, except that this one has a couple of 220VAC outs and a 12VDC out. Fuel capacity is 4 gallons,- so about 15 liters.


    another question gaano kahaba pwede ko extend yun exhaust? kasi pag umuulan hinde ko malagay sa open space yun gen set namin so sa garage lang eh natatakot ako sa monoxide poisoning, so plan ko extend yun exhaust para pwede ko ilabas sa gate.
    For as long as your garage has ventilation, meaning not an enclosed area, then there is no danger of CO poisoning....

    At saka yung "push button" starter sana at di yung "de baltak" (crank starting). Magkano kaya yung mga modelo na ganyan? Baka kasi pag nagtagal, baka maputol yung tali na pang-start.
    Kapag push button, then there is a lead-acid battery that comes with the genset. Now, you have to regularly run it to charge the battery. Typically, diesel fed genset ito. But, I saw a diesel-fed genset (I think 7100VA), that has an option for cranking and push button start sa HandyMan, ATC.. If I remember correctly,- P50K ang cost.

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    #205
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    Bro.,- I was at ACE Hardware last night and I found a genset that is similar to what I have. Brand is Promate and cost is about P20K. I remember that I bought our genset a decade ago at about the same price. Almost the same, layout and everything, except that this one has a couple of 220VAC outs and a 12VDC out. Fuel capacity is 4 gallons,- so about 15 liters.

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    Nakikita ko nga yan sa Ace. Promate by Coleman. Ok ba yang brand na yan? Readily available ba ng parts nyan? I saw from one of the posts na pinaka-common daw ang Denyo and available daw lagi ang parts.

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    #206

    Bro,- its parts, to my untrained eyes, look the same as the parts of the genset which I own. And, ours is already over a decade-old... Noon, mas maraming brownouts pa sa area namin sa LPC,- like every Saturday from 10PM to 6AM for over half a year, if I remember correctly, due to the Zap-Alab Road widening, where they have to relocate the big electrical posts...

    So far, walang breakdown...

    Also, since it is rated at 3000VA, then running it at 220VAC out, means that its output current is about 13.6A, so I can just plug it in a regular outlet, while disengaging the main power breaker.

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    #207
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    Kapag push button, then there is a lead-acid battery that comes with the genset. Now, you have to regularly run it to charge the battery. Typically, diesel fed genset ito. But, I saw a diesel-fed genset (I think 7100VA), that has an option for cranking and push button start sa HandyMan, ATC.. If I remember correctly,- P50K ang cost.

    ...or, you could just run it just before the storm hits. Usually naman tutok tayo sa balitang bagyo, so charge up/replace the battery in advance.

    Anong type pala battery niya? Like the ones in emergency lights, or motorcycle battery na siya?

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    #208
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    Bro,- its parts, to my untrained eyes, look the same as the parts of the genset which I own. And, ours is already over a decade-old... Noon, mas maraming brownouts pa sa area namin sa LPC,- like every Saturday from 10PM to 6AM for over half a year, if I remember correctly, due to the Zap-Alab Road widening, where they have to relocate the big electrical posts...

    So far, walang breakdown...

    Also, since it is rated at 3000VA, then running it at 220VAC out, means that its output current is about 13.6A, so I can just plug it in a regular outlet, while disengaging the main power breaker.

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    bro, wala ka pala MTS? old school ah, plug lang sa outlet.

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    #209
    Quote Originally Posted by fourtheboys96 View Post
    matagal na namin balak kumuha ng portable power generator since madalas ang brownout sa lugar namin at sa tingin ko naman ay sulit kung bibili kami.

    yung mga coleman powermate costs around 20K, 1800W to 2500W. pero sabi ng bayaw ko, punta daw ako raon at meron daw dun mura na brand new na, silent type pa.

    any advice??? tnx!!!
    marami ngang mga nagbebenta sa raon, pero be careful sa mapipili mo, kasi hindi maganda ang ang maipili mo.

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    #210
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    bro, wala ka pala MTS? old school ah, plug lang sa outlet.

    I actually have a provision for it bro, with a separate main switch other than the main breaker in the power panel, but I am not using it because of the low power requirement. The model works for me....

    Pag nag-upgrade ako, I will definitely use it...

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    #211
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    I actually have a provision for it bro, with a separate main switch other than the main breaker in the power panel, but I am not using it because of the low power requirement. The model works for me....

    Pag nag-upgrade ako, I will definitely use it...

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    paano yun? eh di wala kayo ilaw? diba hiwalay ang outlet and mga lightings?

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    #212
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    paano yun? eh di wala kayo ilaw? diba hiwalay ang outlet and mga lightings?
    Pagdating sa circuit breaker, magkakasama din lahat ng linya. Basta naka ON lahat ng breakers, yung main lang ang naka baba.

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    #213
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Pagdating sa circuit breaker, magkakasama din lahat ng linya. Basta naka ON lahat ng breakers, yung main lang ang naka baba.

    Sakto, bro... Ganyan kaming mga alak-tronics and communist-cations engineers ng Taft..... :hysterical:

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    #214
    CVT, yun 20k powermate sa Ace 3KVA lang? meron ba sila 4 KVA? I need to buy another gen set for our other house. masyado ng mahal ang Honda.

    saan pa ibang distributor ng Coleman gen set? baka mas mura pag sa labas bilhin compare sa ACE.

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    #215
    just saw a motorstar brand gen set at home depot. P28k+ 5KVA...pwede na kaya ito kesa sa Coleman.

    anyone knows about this brand? really need to buy gen set this week na.

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    #216

    5KVA at P28K+ should be a good price, bro... Is it diesel or gasoline-fed? Not sure about the brand, though.... Now, that could support one 1HP A/C...

    Anyway, there is a store on the 3rd/4th(?) floor of Festival Mall, Alabang - near the bowling area(?) which sells generators. Forgot the name, though. Maybe someone reading this thread could help id this for us....

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    #217
    another option saw one this weekend, Coleman powermate, hinde promate ha.

    4KVA 27k+ the problem is yun mga outlet niya puro 110V, yun main outlet lang niya ang 220V. brigs and stratton ang engine. ewan ko kung ano engine ng coleman promate. mas ok kaya ito?

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    #218

    At 4KVA and 220VAC out, then max current is 18.2A. For me, this is still pluggable to a regular outlet with a breaker switch of at least 20A, and with your main switch off (very important!). I'd say that this can support a 1HP A/C, plus refrigerator and various lightings.....

    Coleman powermate is a good brand (with briggs and stratton engine). And, do not worry about the 100VAC outs. Most probably, the genset was intended for the US market or a country which has its power requirements at 110VAC. One 220VAC out should be good enough...

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    #219
    ilan kaya wattage i drive ng 3 KVA na fridge? X3 din ba ang start up ng fridge?

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    #220

    Typically X3 ang start up current/power ng compressors. Some are even recommending X5....

    Ang laki naman ng fridge ninyo,- 3KVA? Whew!

    VA is "also Watts",- the former has reactive(?) components- reactance (typically, inductive),- while Watts is pure resistance (ideal)....

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